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Originally Posted by NHRATA01
The only consumer guide typically bashing them is the notoriously unreliable Consumer Reports. JD Power's has been giving GM division good reliability ratings for the past 4-5 years. Toyota/Honda level ratings, not quite, but better than average. But rather than accept the data as presented, it seems people would prefer to bicker over the tendencies of the buyres.
GM makes some very solid motors, and the 3.8 is one of them, and has been for years since it was sliced off of a Buick V8 back in the 60s. GM has made some very bad motors, and the 60 degree V6s and Quad 4 are among them. GM also has made some of the best transmissions in the buisiness for years, enough so that BMW, Rolls, and Bentley have all purchased them at one time or another (BMW still does).
And yes, I always have to have fun with Manybrews. His Mitsu fanboyism trumps my GM fanboyism by at least 2x. Maybe 3x. Also as I've mentioned before, I happen to own a Toyota product.
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I am mostly just busting your chops, NHRA. Every time I hear someone talk about how great a particular motor or transmission is my first reaction is to pick it apart because of my personal experience processing warranty claims. Do I think today's 3.8L is a great motor? No, not really. I actually just finished authorizing a $1,000 worth or oil and coolant leaks on one. Same thing goes with GM transmissions. I would venture to say we spend about $50,000 a day on overhauls or Serta's for the 4L60e. Now, just put yourself in my shoes for a second. If you continued to see the same thing every day on particular cars would you want to buy one?