Fed Spec vs. Cali Spec

HIJACKER · 01/07/2007, 01:50 AM

Please sticky....

Fed Spec
Fed Specs only affect 2000 and some 2001 models, Manufactured from August 1999 to late October of 2000, these GTs came with 205 hp and 205 ft·lbf. The Fed Spec GT is most recognizable for having one catalytic converter (cat) and two O2 sensors, with one sensor before the cat and the other after.

Cali Spec
Cali Specs in 2000 were primarily shipped to California because of the more stringent emission laws; although other areas of North America received them as well. The Eclipse GT line was switched over for cost reasons to the Cali Spec, so only one version of the GT would be manufactured. Cali Specs came with 5 hp less and 5 ft·lbf less. Cali Spec emissions control are three catalytic converters and four O2 sensors. After each exhaust header is a sensor followed by a pre-cat then the main cat after y-pipe then two more O2 Sensors.

Advantage/Disadvantage
1: The most notable advantage for the Fed Spec is with power gains with aftermarket accessories, i.e. exhaust headers, air intakes, cat-back exhaust systems, and moderate forced induction applications.

2: Whereas the Cali Spec has the aftermarket dominated, with five years in production it would make since to make products for Cali Spec, being the dominant trim. A good example would be headers, for those with Fed Spec you will find yourself adding 6-10 inches to a cat-back and plugging two O2 sensor bung holes to fit.

Note: The GTS is Cali Spec, the power increase is from raising the compression from 9.0:1 to 10.0:1 and adding equal length runners with butterfly valves. Forced induction applications with stock short block over 5-6 psi have proven engine failure.

Jordan_W · 01/07/2007, 02:06 AM

good info

kabob · 01/07/2007, 02:36 AM

Uh, that information is in the FAQ, guy. You're not breaking new ground.

00TampaBlueGS · 01/07/2007, 05:46 AM

^True. I believe he went into a bit more detail, however.
I'd Rep you just for that, HIJACKER.... but I need to "spread it".

While we're on the FAQ topic; will that page EVER see further updates? There are still some pretty glaring holes. Some are items I've never found a concrete answer to myself. (OEM brake pads for one... topic of my first thread posted on this forum)

kabob · 01/07/2007, 07:14 AM

What question did you have about the OEM brake pads?

Regulator · 01/07/2007, 07:17 AM

Whaaaa, there's a difference? Who knew?!

HIJACKER · 01/07/2007, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regulator

Whaaaa, there's a difference? Who knew?!

Everyone knows.. I just wanted to make it very clear for anyone who doesn't know, wants more info, or searches for it.

LUNAR · 01/07/2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kabob

Uh, that information is in the FAQ, guy. You're not breaking new ground.

Well although some people dont appreciate it I do. Thanks for the info Hijacker.

Tearstone · 01/07/2007, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kabob

Uh, that information is in the FAQ, guy. You're not breaking new ground.

Normally I would close a thread like this... I just want to say thank you for the effort but this Fed vs. Cali spec thing has been beat to the ground.

00TampaBlueGS · 01/07/2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kabob

What question did you have about the OEM brake pads?

My uber-newbie post:
Simple Brake pad question

xxtrurida75xx · 01/07/2007, 06:39 PM

Im in NJ but i got a cali spec... Is this common?

_OBX_3g_ · 01/08/2007, 01:10 PM

It was posted one time, but I've lost it now, how do you tell which version you have again? Something about what your VIN number starts with, like if its a G you have cali, or a S you have fed. (def. can't remember the leters). There was also one about the 4th to the last digit (I think 4th). Either a 4 or a 9, one was cali and one was fed.

ridemlow03 · 01/08/2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxtrurida75xx

Im in NJ but i got a cali spec... Is this common?

Hijacker is saying if you have 2 o2 sensors its a fed and 4 o2 sensors is a cali spec. thanks hijacker for the info. since i have three cats on mine and i took the 3rd cat out, is that illegal or is it fine since i still have 2 cats?? I know its illegal to have no cat but i still have 2 left. i live in south carolina so emissions is not a problem and i havent thrown a code for it either.

HIJACKER · 01/08/2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridemlow03

Hijacker is saying if you have 2 o2 sensors its a fed and 4 o2 sensors is a cali spec. thanks hijacker for the info. since i have three cats on mine and i took the 3rd cat out, is that illegal or is it fine since i still have 2 cats?? I know its illegal to have no cat but i still have 2 left. i live in south carolina so emissions is not a problem and i havent thrown a code for it either.

I'm not an expert on South Carolina law. Typically, as long as it passes emissions the car is fine. However, some states say ANY modification to the exhaust system is illegal and for "off-road use only"

01/07/2007, 01:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
HIJACKER SC-CUSTOMS.com Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Vehicle: 04Armada-08Altima-03GTS Posts: 12,889	Fed Spec vs. Cali Spec Please sticky.... Fed Spec Fed Specs only affect 2000 and some 2001 models, Manufactured from August 1999 to late October of 2000, these GTs came with 205 hp and 205 ft·lbf. The Fed Spec GT is most recognizable for having one catalytic converter (cat) and two O2 sensors, with one sensor before the cat and the other after. Cali Spec Cali Specs in 2000 were primarily shipped to California because of the more stringent emission laws; although other areas of North America received them as well. The Eclipse GT line was switched over for cost reasons to the Cali Spec, so only one version of the GT would be manufactured. Cali Specs came with 5 hp less and 5 ft·lbf less. Cali Spec emissions control are three catalytic converters and four O2 sensors. After each exhaust header is a sensor followed by a pre-cat then the main cat after y-pipe then two more O2 Sensors. Advantage/Disadvantage 1: The most notable advantage for the Fed Spec is with power gains with aftermarket accessories, i.e. exhaust headers, air intakes, cat-back exhaust systems, and moderate forced induction applications. 2: Whereas the Cali Spec has the aftermarket dominated, with five years in production it would make since to make products for Cali Spec, being the dominant trim. A good example would be headers, for those with Fed Spec you will find yourself adding 6-10 inches to a cat-back and plugging two O2 sensor bung holes to fit. Note: The GTS is Cali Spec, the power increase is from raising the compression from 9.0:1 to 10.0:1 and adding equal length runners with butterfly valves. Forced induction applications with stock short block over 5-6 psi have proven engine failure. __________________ CLICK HERE FOR RAFFLE DETAILS: http://www.sc-customs.com/SCCRaffle/index.html

01/07/2007, 05:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
00TampaBlueGS imiTatum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS 5-spd. Posts: 4,344	^True. I believe he went into a bit more detail, however. I'd Rep you just for that, HIJACKER.... but I need to "spread it". While we're on the FAQ topic; will that page EVER see further updates? There are still some pretty glaring holes. Some are items I've never found a concrete answer to myself. (OEM brake pads for one... topic of my first thread posted on this forum) __________________ My Ride, gradually evolving... My ambitious "Eclipsed(EVO)" plans for my GS: PHASE 1 -DOHC research__(n00bish fumblings) First documented AWD 3G_(local inspiration) messing w/ Evo 8 gear____(turbo options) See where I'm going with this? ...right back into debt.

01/07/2007, 06:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
xxtrurida75xx Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GT Posts: 573	Im in NJ but i got a cali spec... Is this common? __________________

01/07/2007, 02:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jordan_W Georgia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA. Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse GT Posts: 439	good info

01/07/2007, 02:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
kabob Camel Jockey Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Dallas Vehicle: 2005 Lotus Elise Posts: 29,404	Uh, that information is in the FAQ, guy. You're not breaking new ground.

01/07/2007, 07:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
kabob Camel Jockey Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Dallas Vehicle: 2005 Lotus Elise Posts: 29,404	What question did you have about the OEM brake pads?

01/07/2007, 07:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
Regulator Frank Join Date: May 2004 Location: UF Vehicle: 2001 GT Posts: 3,859	Whaaaa, there's a difference? Who knew?!

01/08/2007, 01:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
_OBX_3g_ OBX, N.C. that is Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: the beach Vehicle: 00 gs Posts: 2,105	It was posted one time, but I've lost it now, how do you tell which version you have again? Something about what your VIN number starts with, like if its a G you have cali, or a S you have fed. (def. can't remember the leters). There was also one about the 4th to the last digit (I think 4th). Either a 4 or a 9, one was cali and one was fed.