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EVO ROM, download it here
After may complications from other mixups, I believe this ROM to be a good alternative for people looking to tune. It is a stock EVO ROM, 94170008 with the immobilizer deleted and some of the periphery settings changed. This will not throw codes, unlike some previously distributed ROMs. I hope everyone can benefit from this.
Tuning and changing anything in the car's computer will always carry inherent risk. I assume no liability with what you do to your car. Do not attempt this alone if you haven't the experience. This should only be used on off-road vehicles This ROM has been pulled from the EVO ECU that I currently have installed in my car. I also started to get the injectors dialed in. Everything else will need to be edited/changed over from the origional eclipse ROM, or it can be tuned from scratch. I highly suggest that anybody using this ROM utilize a logging program (evoscan or mitsulogger) along with a wideband to adjust their timing and fuel maps. These are stock EVO maps and as such have fuel/timing for a 2.0L engine. This means the same map will most likely run lean on our engine and have too much timing wich could cause knock. A proper tune from a professional or qualified friend can assure you safety and longevity. I suggest changing over or dialing in: injector scaling injector latency MAF - size (and possibly scaling/smoothing) (I'll add others when I think of them) Also if you're already using an EVO ROM (other than 94170008) and just want me to adjust the periphery, I'll be glad to do this for you or teach you how to do it yourself. I have moved everything over to Tephra's ROM (94170015 ver 5.10), which is a completely different ballgame alltogether. I have added the download below. I am in the process up uploading Tephra's ROM, along with the XML file to go with it. Please note that the tune on this is specific for my car. Also here is the link if you want to download the unmodified (stock-maps) version with his mods, get it here. TephraMOD V5.10 - evolutionm.net The folder link is my ROM and XML. There is a tuned and untuned map. The tuned map is for observational purposs only. If you try and upload this and run 14psi, you most likely will go lean and blow up your car. I would suggest that you stick to downloading the one with the perhiphery changed and tuning it yourself. The tephra's source is unchanged from what you would download from evolutionm.net in his thread. You will still have to change the XML to go this route, which isn't very hard. Update 11-25-09 Tephra's ROM I uploaded Tephra's V7 ROM, It has the periphery changed and all. Also beware poeple are experiencing throttle hang, I have had throttle hang since I upgraded my intake/TB, not a big deal. I canged over the ROM after the install and have noticed no difference. The major difference in Tephra's ROM is BIGMAP, which is increased resolution for the fuel/timing maps (freaking awesome) And gear dependent boost. They utilize a ratio of RPM/speed to determine which gear you're in and then you adjust the wastegate solenoid duty cycle to control boost. This is a feature only available in standalones until now. I want to eventually utilize this, but you have to wire in a boost solenoid, I"m too lazy for now. Only use this ROM if you understand what you're doing. Don't enable no lift to shift unless you've wired in the second clutch switch. There are many more options available in this ROM that I won't utilize. Please ready up here for your education and the health of your vehicle. Swapping over to speed density is an option, but you'll have to add a JDM/EVO10 boost sensor and a temperature sensor (not you'll have to use a different version of Tephra's V7). http://forums.evolutionm.net/ecuflas...hramod-v7.html <------READ UP BEFORE USING THIS ROM If you have a tuned EVO ROM, you can swap over without re-tuning using the included BIGMAP translator. Its an excell spreadsheet. Works pretty well. BE SURE TO CHANGE THE AXIS, and paste the grey values into the extra squares on the axis. This is necessary otherwise it will be averaging values you don't want in there. I also suggest checking a few random squares to make sure its averaging correctly. Added from my post below, just want to make sure everybody gets it Quote:
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This will work with the normal definitions that come with ECUflash. I assume that Flash's ROM required you to use his definitions. The values were probably correct, just not visable/adjustable without his definition. Last edited by steadly2004; 07/31/2008 at 04:25 PM. |
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Also what kind of injectors are you using? What scaling are you using? |
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However, knock CEL will, as well as Valet Mode, and Map switching if one so chooses. BUT..... that really will be a discussion for another thread anyway. This ROM has none of those features and is stock with the acception of the periphery settings changed. Last edited by steadly2004; 08/02/2008 at 09:50 AM. |
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Sorry to confuse you. I was in a hurry and I wanted to specifically state the 4 cylinder eclipse. The reason I ask, is that GT eclipse has two clutch switches. One at the top of the clutch travel to cancel the cruise control when the clutch is pushed and one at the bottom so the car will start. Not that any of that matters as I cannot even flash my fed spec GT, let alone use a evo rom.
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This ROM doens't have the knock CEL feature or any others. It simply is a stock ROM with the periphery changed.*note* The last sentence in the first post is stating that I'm planning on changing over to Tephra's ROM in the future. Last edited by steadly2004; 08/02/2008 at 09:51 AM. |
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Ill try this out when I get my car put back together. I dont have a cat though so im sure i will still see an SES come on. I am using evo 9 560cc injectors so id assume to use their injector information and scale them to 513. The latencies you have on there looked pretty close to the ones I had before so ill see how those work and mess around with them if need be.
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If you have EVO9 injectors, you can probably just pull up an EVO 9 ROM and copy/paste everything for the injector settings and be good to go. |
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3g id bet. Has to be
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Everything is still a stock EVO settings except for the injector and periphery settings. I never changed it for myself because I have an EVO translator and GM MAF, so I need to have it with the stock EVO settings.
Thats why I listed it at the top of things that need to be adjusted if you're going to run it on your car. You'll need to open up the EVO ROM and change the MAF size to 257.7 I think. That will help out the most, then the scaling and smoothing would probably be a good idea to change over also, although it may not be necessary. Logging and tuning it will be a must. |
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I just tried and had problems with internet explorer, but Mozilla Firefox worked perfectly. Maby try firefox? Last edited by steadly2004; 08/12/2008 at 09:39 PM. |
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I just changed it to the link to the overall public folder, from there pick the middle one Last edited by steadly2004; 10/29/2008 at 08:55 AM. |
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Just now noticed this, I have been wanting to go with the 15 upgrade as well, thanks, Ill be doing this one tommorow morning
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I am planning to flash the EVO rom to my N/A eclipse.. Can anyone tell me what bits I should disable in the periphery registers to avoid ECU error codes ? My EGR is still up and running so I would prefer to keep it enabled.
Steadly ? Thanks, Jeff
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I dunno man. Read up here. They try to define as many bits as possible, I"m not sure if they got the EGR or not.
new feature in ECUFlash 1.35: periphery bits - evolutionm.net |
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Thanks Steadly it was nice info !
Following this, I turned off bit 15 of Periphery2 and no more CEL for over a week now. Just to say, I noticed the EVO rom doesn't read the airflow the same way the eclipse ROM does (with the same mod setup), thus computes ECUload differently and give a load curve that is somewhat different than what I had before, so I had to retune my AFR using this ROM. It also measures knock way differently than the eclipse ROM (I guess it's not listening for the same harmonics). I also have an occasional lump on idle (each 30 seconds or so, when in closed loop). Other than that, I copied all my tables from my latest eclipse ROM and everything seems to work fine. After tuning the AFR with evoscan to the same level it was before (13.1) and using the same timing than my latest eclipse tune, Evoscan shows me a torque & HP loss along the powerband. I am investigating on this. Thanks again for the tips ! Jeff
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I think the best thing would be to get a used MAF for like $80 and slap that on there. Also, you'll definately need a retune anyway, the map is for a 2liter engine, will need more fuel at the same load point. I'm not sure about knock, I always trusted it to be accurate enough to run, I wouldn't change the knock tables. And what do you mean, "lump on idle"? |
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i uploaded evorom on my ecu cranked it up and the car ran much smoother at idle than what it used too. it will not go ove 3000 rpm so im guessing i need to cope some of my 3g maps to the new rom. How would i do that. and also about the maf dialing i cannot do that because it was not highlight for me in ecuflash.
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tephras mods also has a valet mod that wont let u go past a set rpm so that may be your issue too... I think u have to mash the gas to 100% throttle for a few seconds or something while the car is in the on position but not running and that will turn it on or off i forget...
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I also thought it might be the stationary rev limiter too but there is a setting for that and it was set to 6000 rpm. im set on begginers level on ecu flash so thats probably whats holding me up. Thanx for the help.
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The SES will flash for a couple sec and it will be disabled. |
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For people interested by the ROM and that are N/A please read up..
I decided to finally get back to my original eclipse ROM. Even after copying all my eclipse tables from my own ROM, I still had a few problems with the EVO ROM that wouldn't go away: 1. Rougher Idle. Idle was normal, but had a "lump" each 10 seconds or so where I felt the car would stall.. Didn't really stall but it went close to it. 2. Longer startup. I had to crank the car longer than before to get it to start. This is bad here in Canada because it would suck my battery in no time at -30 C during winter. 3. Stall on low RPMs. When going on low RPM (1000-1500), and pressing the gas pedal up to 30-50% throttle, the car would stall completely and wouldn't pull at all.. Releasing the throttle would let the car back to a normal idle. This problem happened much more often during the warmup period. So I checked with evoscan and I found that the EVO rom timing is very different than the eclipse timing on startup, and there are many tables that allow adjusting timing during startup. I managed to correct problem #2 and reduce #3 pretty much, but it still happened sometimes in precise conditions that the car would stall on low RPMs, even when warm. Very annoying and even dangerous when starting back in 2nd gear on a stop sign. The reason for me to use the EVO ROM was to correct a phantom knock issue that I am having, but I finally found the needed tables into my eclipse ROM to reduce knock sensitivity, so I decided to go back to my original ROM because of the drawbacks of using it. I would not recommend using the EVO ROM on the 4cyl eclipse if you are staying N/A. I didn't feel better performance except maybe I felt the car to be a bit more responsive. I think the EVO ROM main loop is faster because I could log more samples per second with it than my original ROM. Maybe this explains the increased sensitivity. But it wasn't worth all the drawbacks that came with it in my case. Also, the EVO ROM computes a higher air flow than the eclipse ROM, even with the same MAF and MAF settings into the tables. Jeff Quote:
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OK, little update. The 9653---- whatever ROM has a few issues, throttle hang, rev limit not working and cold start stuff.
Tephra has incorporated most of the "new" features into the 94170715 variant, which worked BEST so far for my car. I haven't used the new Tephra version because my intake manifold is off. Basically if you're running speed density, use the 9653--- one If you're running a mass airflow sensor use the 9417--- one TephraMod V7 - evolutionm.net here is the original link, feel free to paypal any money to him that you can if you find his software useful, I do every time he comes out with something I utilize. |
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OK, just a little update, I got the 94170715 up and running today, works great. No throttle hang problems, everything seems to be smooth. I did have to add the periphery tables to delete the immobilizer. I'll have to get an uploaded version with the immobilizer deleted for everybody. The rev-limiter works again, lol.
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