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So far its awesome man
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GSX
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All the wiring is almost done and it looks sexy. O2 sensor is all that's left but I won't be able to get to it till Monday. I have to wait on the Full Blown 2G Dual Pump setup which won't be here until Wednesday anyway. All my time has been going into my buddies Talon, which got a ported head w/ Crower 272's, JMFabrications IM, FP3065 w/ DNP mani, 950cc's, and a full -6 fuel system. We got it running today so I'll finish my car up shortly.
YouTube - 92 talon tsi, FP3065, Crower 272s, initial startup. YouTube - 92 Talon TSi FP3065 Crower 272's Idle Vid |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Montreal
Vehicle: 3G turbo
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Looks good man!! Just make sure bumper fits... I had to reweld shit out of my UIP when i tried to put bumper on LOL (was a big fuckup on my part)
GL man looking forward to see driveshaft and subframe pics!!! |
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[b]This build looks great and as everyone else has said if the subframe wasn't such a pain in the butt then more people would be doing it. But good thing it is because that means the people with the AWD 3G's know what the hell they are doing and deserve the special car.
I can't wait for the complete How-To if you decide to write one up because I'm really thinking about doing this to my car (the AWD) but it's more work than I am capable of. I need it for the friggen snow so that my rear end doesn't cut loose or wobble back and forth while I am driving from the incredible crosswinds we see in my state. (Only Wobbles in the Snow, would suck if it did it all the time.) Awesome job so far, can't wait to see some video's of this bad boy. (You did say Sex Change)
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Again, hopefully im wrong. Awesome work by the way!
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Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS 5spd
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Great build man keep up the great work and good luck!
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Very close. I just started working on it like 2 weeks ago and that was the first time since 11/22/08.
Motor will be started early this week once the Full Blown Dual Fuel Pump setup gets here. Everything else that's needed to start the motor is good to go. I still need to space the subframe down an inch or so and I've decided to go with the Evo steering rack. The steering rack is getting too low and the pinion on the evo steering rack is quite a bit longer and has a much better steering response. I'm thinking about converting the subframe studs to just bolts by welding nuts into the unibody. This way I am able to remove the subframe without taking the whole motor and tranny out. I'll either do this or take another look at the part of the subframe that hangs over the transfer case. Then once that's figured out it's driveshaft and front sway bar install, then it's time for some HARD awd launches ![]() And how's yours holding up? |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Colorado
Vehicle: 03 AWD DOHC Turbo GSX
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Sadly between my two jobs I have not really had the chance to fully enjoy the fruits of my labor, hoping to only need one job come summer and be able to drive her more, but nothing has broken yet.
One thing I will need to add is a stiffy dampener, when you do a hard launch and let of quickly the t-case sometimes smacks the tunnel, also still have to get an alignment done.
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A stiffy dampener will help but won't fix the problem. If you haven't done it already, then polyurethane motor mounts (full inserts) should take care of it. If not, you need to make for a little more clearance on the tunnel. I can see where the transfer case is hitting (red circle in pic below) by the way the paint is chipped on the tunnel. What I did was cut along the green lines and create a box shape and rivet in some steel with body sealer to create 2-3 inches of overhead clearance. I'll try and get pics up when everything is back out. ![]() Another place it might possibly hit is the subframe, where it hangs over the transfer case by the motor mount. This will probably have to be ANOTHER revision to this evil subframe. When it's all said and done, if I can bench press and hang off my transfer case without it hitting anything then that should be plenty of clearance Then on to HARD testing in an open parking lot...
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Thanks a ton for taking all the pictures and everything through the whole process. It'll make it a ton easier when I go to do mine. BTW was there ever a decision on the Galant VR4 subframe on whether or not it will work so we don't have to cut ours? Rep for you sir
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It doesn't hit where you circled, its the end where the drive shaft goes in where it hits the top of the tunnel during a hard accel. Everything else clears.
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You need to ditch the full blown setup. You have ZERO need for it. A single walbro is good for over 450AWHP on a Mustang Dyno. You are going to cause tuning issues with two pumps running in tandem and I hope you have an aftermarket FPR so it can handle the pressure.
Honestly, the full blown setup is WAY overkill. The only time we have to use them is when cars are fully built with a huge turbo.
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450 awhp is nothing. As soon as I know my awd conversion is good to go and I've ran the piss out of the car and nothing breaks on the 16g then I'm going straight to a htagt3586r or just a gt4294r. Did I not mention this? I should be ATLEAST 750awhp by DSM Shootout in August. Yes two pumps are needed (or like an A1000). Yes I have a Fuel Lab FPR since -6an lines don't work with the factory regulator lol. And no, having the second fuel pump kick on with a hobbs switch will not alter fuel pressure therefore not affecting the tune. I really don't think you understand how serious I am... |
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Got it started Saturday. Had a pretty serious coolant leak at the water pump and a power steering leak at the pressure hose where it bolts to the pump (threads are stripped). The idle was around 2000 rpms which is either from a vacuum leak or from having no coolant. Got a compression test in after running and it was 180 psi across the board
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Mentor, OH
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I might actually have to go out to Summit Race Park this August.
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I don't know either. I'll never know unless I push it. After this one it's billet aluminum rod motor time. |
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there was someone selling a new ams aluminum rod shortblock on EVOM a few days back you might wanna take a look at.
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I would venture to say yes.
That will probably be one of the easiest tasks of this build so far, especially since Drive Shaft Shop is amazing, they can build anything you want, fast and for a fair price.
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Aluminum rod motor is a waste. Seriously. It's a race only motor that can't be DD'd and after about 30 passes has to come back out for a rebuild as the rods are toast.
Not to mention the notching required in the block is expensive as fuck.
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The Evo one should fit but here shortly I'll be going with a 2-piece aluminum.
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At that point it will see almost all track anyway because at 800+ hp billet Al rods are needed. If I really wanted to DD it then I could always go with the Crower Billet Titanium rods like the new C6 Z06's have. ($1600 a set) Crower Cams & Equipment - Mitsubishi - Connecting Rods |
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please enlighten me |
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I can sit here all day and write a paper on turbo's. You'll just have to read up a ton on them if you're willing to learn. Grab Corky Bell's turbocharger book and read up on it. You'll learn quite a bit. |
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Update: Everything is back out and I'm taking the subframe back to the fabrication shop to have it reworked one more time then hopefully it goes back in and drives no problems ![]() Are you guys ready for this? |
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You should cut the subframe straight thru and then have a cross brace on bottom that is removable for sake of removing the tcase for service, etc. Much like the piece you welded on top, but removable.
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Total... Fuckin.. Package!!
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finally BOOSTED
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Damn man.... this thing has come along so far as of late. i was attempting the same project but hit a lot of roadblocks. im so happy to see you actually accomplishing this. im livin through you bro!
i cant wait!
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The subframe now fits with the motor/transmission/transfer case in the car. My fabricater welded two big bar stocks across the bottom front and back. I did a little more trimming around the motor mount and now it fits like a dream. I can now hang on the transfer case and bench press it and it doesn't touch anything. Polyurethane motor mounts are nice. Pic below.
I did NOT use the spacers. ![]() I also went to stainless steel power steering lines (-6an pressure, -8an return). I found that the biss screw on the throttle body was 3/4 of the way out and was cracked so I replaced that with a new seal and also put new Works aperture tb shaft seals in. The throttle body gasket was in upside down as well. Hopefully it will idle at 800 rpms now. The coolant leak was caused by using the 3g Eclipse water pump on an Evo block. It has two slits that have no passages to them that go from the inside of the block to the outside where coolant was carried and dumped. JB weld and silicone on the water pump gasket for extra insurance was called for. The radiator is currently full and no water has leaked in the past 6 hours. We'll see what happens when the pump creates a little pressure in the coolant system. Everything is together and the only thing left is the driveshaft. I have a few options: *One-piece carbon fiber PST driveshaft $1200 *2g rear shaft with custom one piece 3"-3.5" aluminum shaft that replaces both front and middle piece. (uses rear carrier bearing and bracket) $250-$350 *Stock Evo D/S Probably end up doing the 2g with custom Aluminum shaft. Should be running next week. |
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Did you make the SS lines yet? I had a -6SS line going from the p/s pump to the hardline that mounts on the frame rail and it broke. The SS lines are rated for 800psi and the p/s pump at full pressure (when the wheel is locked either direction) produces over 1,000psi. I had to use hydraulic lines rated for 1500psi and AN fittings on those lines.
That crossmember looks really good, nice work.
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Just snapped a pic of my Home Depot custom front lip ($21 )![]() DAMN she's dirty! |
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