My Full Build

bostonhatcher · 09/16/2008, 11:40 PM

I guess I'll go ahead and start with my build thread. I'm not too far but I need some motivation.

Stock parts I purchased

Rear Subframe with Solid Aluminum Differential Bushings pressed in

Before transformation...

Rear end is most of the way in

Mods/Prep before installation:

All parts painted with POR-15 Chassis Black Paint
Complete Energy Suspension Polyurethane Bushing Set
Stainless Steel Bolts
Undercoating
Suspension Techniques 18mm rear sway bar
New O.E.M. Wheel Hubs
New O.E.M. Balljoint Arms
New Moog Sway Bar Endlinks

cfeyhris · 09/17/2008, 12:09 AM

what about engine mods?

bostonhatcher · 09/17/2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cfeyhris

what about engine mods?

Basically Evo everything in the front. I'm going to install everything stock just to make sure I can get it to work for a few months then I'm going to pull everything back out and build the motor/trans/xfer case. I got a local deal on a Precision SC61 turbo that I'll be putting on the stock motor but I'll eventually get a HTAGT35R.

malachi · 09/17/2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bostonhatcher

Basically Evo everything in the front. I'm going to install everything stock just to make sure I can get it to work for a few months then I'm going to pull everything back out and build the motor/trans/xfer case. I got a local deal on a Precision SC61 turbo that I'll be putting on the stock motor but I'll eventually get a HTAGT35R.

high five man, good luck, everything looks good so far. keep track of the price/ and parts, if you can.

noricereclips · 09/17/2008, 08:26 AM

nice plans! It's going to be a beast if you can carry it out! Good luck!

catch-me · 09/17/2008, 08:43 AM

this is an awsome build. I'd love to see it when it's done.

Special_K · 09/17/2008, 12:04 PM

Looks like a fun build. Good luck.

quick92rs · 09/17/2008, 12:33 PM

Glad somebody is takign the time and taking lots of pictures. I plan on going AWD when I eventualy get the money and parts off the TSi.

Voodoo · 09/17/2008, 09:07 PM

Definitely looking forward to watching this as it progresses, and seeing the final product

Flamegs23 · 09/17/2008, 10:18 PM

NICE!!

Phatblackhatc · 09/30/2008, 07:45 PM

Very nice indeed!!!! I may have missed it but what diff and drive shaft are you running?

Pearl01Strat · 09/30/2008, 07:56 PM

AWD swap??

Best of luck and I can't wait to see how this unfolds. Just might motivate me to do the first AWD Stratus coupe.

If you can, list price run down.

Juan Martinez · 10/01/2008, 12:13 AM

Nice. I have to say, its way nicer to see this done to a 3g than a 2g. I was wondering, when you go to start on the engine bay, what subframe are you going to use. I've been gathering some information on trying to use a Galant vr-4 awd subframe from a left hand drive model. Any chance you could post up some pics of how your current subframe bolts up to the frame?

Special_K · 10/01/2008, 10:30 AM

So let me ask, you didnt have to reform/cut out any of the lower pan of the car? Everything fit up into the frame fine? All of your pics make this look like a simple bolt on project thus far, is that true?

bostonhatcher · 10/01/2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CLIPSE_GT

So let me ask, you didnt have to reform/cut out any of the lower pan of the car? Everything fit up into the frame fine? All of your pics make this look like a simple bolt on project thus far, is that true?

No you don't have to do anything to the lower pan. You have to cut 4 holes to get all the old subframe bolts out and put the longer ones in.

It took me about a week to do just the rear of the car and I worked everyday for about 7-8 hours and I work fast. You definitely could shave off some time by not putting in the polyurethane bushings or painting everything and just leaving the whole subframe together. All the stock parts, complete subframe, gas tank, gas nozzle, and ebrake cables were out out of my car in 30 minutes with just me working. If I were to do this again I could have it done in about 4-5 days because I know exactly which 2g/3g parts to use.

Does anyone want an awd setup?

stilwrks · 10/01/2008, 02:09 PM

Looks like you swapped out the fuel tank, why & what did you replace with?

Special_K · 10/01/2008, 02:38 PM

I wouldnt mind doing this awd conversion if I could find a tranny to fit up to the V-6. I doubt that the AWD tranny of the evo would work with our cars let alone the nightmare of trying to use both the V-6 ECU and an evo ECU. Maybe Evo motor swap down the line.

Juan Martinez · 10/01/2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stilwrks

Looks like you swapped out the fuel tank, why & what did you replace with?

Its an AWD fuel tank out of a 95-99 GSX. It has the tunnel in the middle for the drive shaft to get to the rear diff. I do have a question. People who have done the conversion on their 95-99 eclipse's from FWD to AWD had to do some work to get the thank to fit. Was the Tank a bolt on for the 3g or did you have to make some alterations to bolt locations or anything?

Juan Martinez · 10/01/2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CLIPSE_GT

I wouldnt mind doing this awd conversion if I could find a tranny to fit up to the V-6. I doubt that the AWD tranny of the evo would work with our cars let alone the nightmare of trying to use both the V-6 ECU and an evo ECU. Maybe Evo motor swap down the line.

I doubt you would have to use an evo ecu for the transmission. Most manual transmissions don't use a computer. I think they only have ports on them for temp gauges and simple monitors. As for a transmission, I don't know if it will bolt up or not, but you can possibly use the VR-4 Galant Transmission thats awd. I don't remember the engine code, but its all over these forums.

bostonhatcher · 10/01/2008, 09:59 PM

No alterations to get the fuel tank to fit. Use the 2g fuel tank and 3g straps and relocate the drivers side rear tank strap bolt. There is already a hole with threads to screw a bolt into it.

I drove it for the first time today. Braking and handling improved a little bit from going to drums to discs and sway bar/poly bushings.

I also got my evo dropout today. I'll put pics up later.

Juan Martinez · 10/02/2008, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bostonhatcher

No alterations to get the fuel tank to fit. Use the 2g fuel tank and 3g straps and relocate the drivers side rear tank strap bolt. There is already a hole with threads to screw a bolt into it.

I drove it for the first time today. Braking and handling improved a little bit from going to drums to discs and sway bar/poly bushings.

I also got my evo dropout today. I'll put pics up later.

I'm glad to hear that about the fuel tank. There was more cutting involved on the 2g than the 3g.

On the rear. At the top of the spindle, theres that Upper Trailing arm, did you have to convert it over to the AWD upper trailing arm.

I don't know how much difference it makes. On the 2g eclipes, they have this multilink design on the front like they still have on the back still. I know they took it off the 3g design. What purpose did that multilink design do and does it make any difference on handling on the 3g compaired to the 2g eclipse?

bostonhatcher · 10/02/2008, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan Martinez

I'm glad to hear that about the fuel tank. There was more cutting involved on the 2g than the 3g.

On the rear. At the top of the spindle, theres that Upper Trailing arm, did you have to convert it over to the AWD upper trailing arm.

I don't know how much difference it makes. On the 2g eclipes, they have this multilink design on the front like they still have on the back still. I know they took it off the 3g design. What purpose did that multilink design do and does it make any difference on handling on the 3g compaired to the 2g eclipse?

The upper control arm was almost identical between the 2g awd and 3g on the rear.

malachi · 10/02/2008, 08:24 AM

wow, so your done already?

21Strat · 10/02/2008, 11:27 AM

Looks awesome man. Can't wait to see the final pictures.

Juan Martinez · 10/05/2008, 07:52 PM

Any updates?

bostonhatcher · 10/06/2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan Martinez

Any updates?

Everything is still together after my test drive lol.

bostonhatcher · 10/06/2008, 02:32 AM

So I bought this junk ass Evo dropout from this salvage yard over in New Jersey for $5500 shipped. They said they didn't know what condition the motor was in and they said the car had been wrecked. Obviously the motor had to be running to wreck the car right? Here is what I got:

I knew I had to go through everything to find which parts needed replaced. I popped the valve cover to make sure everything was cool and the head bolts looked like the threads had protruded through the bolt head. And it looks like they had turned black from running junk oil. There was some kind of writing like apr or something on top.

I wanted to make sure the clutch was ok and to make sure it was there I just took a peak through the shift fork boot and it looked like some dumbass spray painted the pressure plate yellow. What a ricer...

I then went on to the bottom end and this is where I was happy. The pistons were really shiny so I knew they were healthy. Also, the connecting rod bolts had the same writing as the nasty black head bolts. Oh well. Everything was shiny so I was happy...

Motor/Tranny is going in as soon as I get replacement parts...

white3geclipseg · 10/06/2008, 07:55 AM

so you are driving it already? awd?

whatd you do for the exhaust?

bostonhatcher · 10/06/2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by white3geclipseg

so you are driving it already? awd?

whatd you do for the exhaust?

I drove it once but there was no driveshaft hooked up to the rear diff and for exhaust I just left it open after my gutted cat and man was it loud and obnoxious.

malachi · 10/06/2008, 09:16 AM

could it be an ACT clutch?

quick92rs · 10/06/2008, 11:47 AM

Looks good. Keep up on the pictures. It'll be good for reference.

midget · 10/06/2008, 03:53 PM

all ACT pressure plates are yellow, most likely that is what is in there...

02galant · 10/06/2008, 04:07 PM

I think he was making a joke guys.

bostonhatcher · 10/06/2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 02galant

I think he was making a joke guys.

We got a winner.

I'll stop.

goosey2099 · 10/07/2008, 11:03 AM

^ looks like eagle rods.. Good Find!

Chato · 10/07/2008, 07:23 PM

Nice.

bostonhatcher · 10/07/2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by goosey2099

^ looks like eagle rods.. Good Find!

Yea they are Eagle Rods w/ ARP 2000 Bolts and Wiseco Pistons. There are no balance shafts, just a stubby shaft. The balance shaft bearings were turned so the oil passages weren't lined up. The crank is balanced. You can still see the crosshatch in the cylinders. This motor probably doesn't even have over 1000 miles on it. I've been watching this dropout on ebay for almost a year and never could find the right time to start this project. I'm kind of surprised that it never sold but there's not too big of a market for guys wanting the whole front end of an Evo. I got one hell of a deal.

I'm starting off with the stock turbo and as soon as I get a manifold and wastegate, I'll be putting a BIG turbo on and will try for around 600-700 awhp.

Can you say 10 sec 3rd gen?

21Strat · 10/07/2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonhatcher

I'm starting off with the stock turbo and as soon as I get a manifold and wastegate, I'll be putting a BIG turbo on and will try for around 600-700 awhp.

Can you say 10 sec 3rd gen?

You = fucking nuts.

I like.

Details on trim?

RedClipse00 · 10/07/2008, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostonhatcher

Yea they are Eagle Rods w/ ARP 2000 Bolts and Wiseco Pistons. There are no balance shafts, just a stubby shaft. The balance shaft bearings were turned so the oil passages weren't lined up. The crank is balanced. You can still see the crosshatch in the cylinders. This motor probably doesn't even have over 1000 miles on it. I've been watching this dropout on ebay for almost a year and never could find the right time to start this project. I'm kind of surprised that it never sold but there's not too big of a market for guys wanting the whole front end of an Evo. I got one hell of a deal.

I'm starting off with the stock turbo and as soon as I get a manifold and wastegate, I'll be putting a BIG turbo on and will try for around 600-700 awhp.

Can you say 10 sec 3rd gen?

fucking sick man, you're making this look way easy! haha

bostonhatcher · 10/08/2008, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 21Strat

You = fucking nuts.

I like.

Details on trim?

If by trim you mean size of turbo then it would have to be the htagt35r.

I was thinking about fuel and my walbro would really only support about 500whp. I'm definitely going to be doing a BIG shot of direct port methanol and run regular 91 octane. The meth should make up for the loss of pump fuel in the 600-700 whp range.

Ithinkyou · 10/08/2008, 04:12 AM

dual walbro evo assembly... if seen a few of those on EvoM.

Juan Martinez · 10/08/2008, 11:07 AM

From what research I've seen, you can bolt in the evo fuel pump if you want to use it. Its quite compaired to the walbro ones.

TOwEnZ · 10/08/2008, 11:38 AM

WOW, niiiiice build dude. Can't wait to see it done. But damn dude, you must have some deep pockets! $5500 for motor, and .. $$$ for AWD parts. Hook me up with some left over turbo parts or whatever !

But good luck!

4G64TT · 10/08/2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan Martinez

From what research I've seen, you can bolt in the evo fuel pump if you want to use it. Its quite compaired to the walbro ones.

i have an evo fuel pump in my car and its not turbo'd... you can definitely put them in there, its been proven.
But i doubt itll support 600whp

Juan Martinez · 10/08/2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 4G64TT

i have an evo fuel pump in my car and its not turbo'd... you can definitely put them in there, its been proven.
But i doubt itll support 600whp

Wait, is he going for a 600whp mark?

quick92rs · 10/08/2008, 05:12 PM

Yup and I don't see why not with an EVO motor. He shounds like a good candidate to do a MIVEC swap.

bostonhatcher · 10/08/2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by quick92rs

Yup and I don't see why not with an EVO motor. He shounds like a good candidate to do a MIVEC swap.

No need for MIVEC. It's only for a little stronger low end and a little stronger top end vs. non MIVEC in factory form. Once you put cams in both MIVEC and non-MIVEC, then the top end is the same. Also, the MIVEC head just becomes a bitch to tune whenever it transitions. I would be all about variable valve timing if it didn't have one sudden change, and was just a smooth, constant change.

Whenever VTEC was invented some 20 years ago, it was for emissions. All the teenage boys now think it's for racing. In fact, everything about Honda motors is about gas efficiency, which equals power. Then they shrink their product to a whooping 1.6 motor, and then the only thing you ever hear Honda guys brag about is horsepower-per-liter. I could go on forever, but if you have any questions just ask so I don't have unnecessary typing.

quick92rs · 10/08/2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonhatcher

Then they shrink their product to a whooping 1.6 motor, and then the only thing you ever hear Honda guys brag about is horsepower-per-liter.

Cough rotary cough. Nice build though. Have you hooked up the rear diff yet? Doesn't the drive shaft from the 2g fit?

Juan Martinez · 10/08/2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonhatcher

No need for MIVEC. It's only for a little stronger low end and a little stronger top end vs. non MIVEC in factory form. Once you put cams in both MIVEC and non-MIVEC, then the top end is the same. Also, the MIVEC head just becomes a bitch to tune whenever it transitions. I would be all about variable valve timing if it didn't have one sudden change, and was just a smooth, constant change.

Whenever VTEC was invented some 20 years ago, it was for emissions. All the teenage boys now think it's for racing. In fact, everything about Honda motors is about gas efficiency, which equals power. Then they shrink their product to a whooping 1.6 motor, and then the only thing you ever hear Honda guys brag about is horsepower-per-liter. I could go on forever, but if you have any questions just ask so I don't have unnecessary typing.

I agree with this. MIVEC is great, if you don't plan to do some heavy modding to it. Your better off without it if your going to basicly rebuild and retune everything. MIVEC will get in the way. If I where to build an eclipse with mivec, I would only do small mods that don't mess with having to retune the MIVEC.

quick92rs · 10/08/2008, 10:51 PM

Doing a MIVEC swap wouldn't be so great as to make better power, but more as in an exclusive thing, kinda like the awd on this car. But it's also good for performance too so that's why the awd is happening and MIVEC isn't i guess.

Juan Martinez · 10/09/2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by quick92rs

Doing a MIVEC swap wouldn't be so great as to make better power, but more as in an exclusive thing, kinda like the awd on this car. But it's also good for performance too so that's why the awd is happening and MIVEC isn't i guess.

It all comes down to if you want easier tuneablity or if you want that extra little something. I do have a question, what transmission are you going to use? 5 speed or 6 speed?

Here is a link of the rear conversion on a 2g eclipse for referance. http://www.automotivearticles.com/AWD_Conversion.shtml

bostonhatcher · 10/09/2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan Martinez

It all comes down to if you want easier tuneablity or if you want that extra little something. I do have a question, what transmission are you going to use? 5 speed or 6 speed?

5-speed. The only 6-speed build that is offered is by Team Rip and he just does the old school tranny treatments such as shot peening gears, more oiling holes, and polishing tranny components.

quick92rs · 10/09/2008, 01:15 PM

Yea I think i saw somewhere the Evo 6 speed doesn't fit. Am i correct?

Juan Martinez · 10/09/2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by quick92rs

Yea I think i saw somewhere the Evo 6 speed doesn't fit. Am i correct?

I don't see why it wouldn't fit. Its not that much different in size and mounting than the 5 speed. If anyone has info on this, let us know.

bostonhatcher · 10/10/2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by quick92rs

Yea I think i saw somewhere the Evo 6 speed doesn't fit. Am i correct?

It will fit but you have to do a 6-speed shifter which is a bolt on to the 3g.

quick92rs · 10/10/2008, 02:41 AM

Would the shifter linkage out of the Evo be the appropriate length or would you use stock 3g linkage? Also what would be done about the clutch since the Evo works opposite

Juan Martinez · 10/10/2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by quick92rs

Would the shifter linkage out of the Evo be the appropriate length or would you use stock 3g linkage? Also what would be done about the clutch since the Evo works opposite

I"m not sure really. If your putting in an evo 5 speed in place of the eclipse 5 speed, you may not have to. The linkage and the part it attaches to the transmission look to be the same. What do you mean the evo works opposite?

As for the the 6 speed shifter. Yes, it is a completely different shifter and works differently compaired to a 5 speed one. I've compaired them when I had my 6 speed shifter. The pivot points are completely different. If you even attempt to use the 5 speed shifter on a 6 speed, when you shift, all the gears will be opposited from top to bottom. 1st will be second and 2nd will be in place of 1st. Same for all the gears. If the 6 speed shifter is the problem of putting in a 6 speed, thats an easy fix.

quick92rs · 10/10/2008, 08:07 PM

The Evo has push type and we have a pull type or vice versa I can't remember which way it is. But anyway they work in opposite directions. But if there isn't too big of a fuss getting the 6 speed to work, then that's the route I'm going when I go awd. The only things I could think of that would cause a big problem would be whether it would fit, the linkage, and the clutch.

Juan Martinez · 10/11/2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by quick92rs

The Evo has push type and we have a pull type or vice versa I can't remember which way it is. But anyway they work in opposite directions. But if there isn't too big of a fuss getting the 6 speed to work, then that's the route I'm going when I go awd. The only things I could think of that would cause a big problem would be whether it would fit, the linkage, and the clutch.

Well, heres something to think about. If the factory eclipse linkage works with the evo 5 speed tranny, that would mean its pretty much the same as evo linkage. If its the same as evo linkage, then the 6 speed swap wouldn't be much different. The evo guys swap out their 5 speeds for 6 speeds. They only need 4 things: Tranny, Linkage, Shifter and a rear transmission mount. I know the short shifters they use for 3g eclipses is the same as in the lancer, lancer ralliart and lancer evo. The shifter also looks pretty much the same. If the shifter base didn't bolt up, you may be able to use a 4g shifter out of a 6 speed gt. There are plenty of options of working around things to get them to fit. Mitsubishi does keep somethings simple and streamlined. As for the clutch, you should have no problem. Fitting, well, if the 6 speed isn't any bigger, then I'm sure it will fit.

kng nothg · 10/12/2008, 04:00 PM

Very nice.... good to see a few people are also doing this.

My rear end has been done about 1 1.5 -2 yrs ago...still trying to get time/money to finish my conversion. Time as in, i live in VA now and my car is in FL.
Working so damn much, time flies..

Btw lots of good info/pics/etc

How are you going to address the front crossmember issue?!? Your right everything is pretty much bolt on as far as the rear end (minus a few holes

)

Interested in your input on this. (hoping to have the front crossmember done dec/jan time)

-Rob

09/16/2008, 11:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
bostonhatcher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GSX Posts: 423	My Full Build I guess I'll go ahead and start with my build thread. I'm not too far but I need some motivation. Stock parts I purchased Rear Subframe with Solid Aluminum Differential Bushings pressed in Before transformation... Rear end is most of the way in Mods/Prep before installation: All parts painted with POR-15 Chassis Black Paint Complete Energy Suspension Polyurethane Bushing Set Stainless Steel Bolts Undercoating Suspension Techniques 18mm rear sway bar New O.E.M. Wheel Hubs New O.E.M. Balljoint Arms New Moog Sway Bar Endlinks

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noricereclips BOOST gets me laid! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: McLean, VA Vehicle: 92 S13 coupe + wrangler Posts: 1,147	nice plans! It's going to be a beast if you can carry it out! Good luck! __________________ 296.3 lb-ft fwtq & 263 fwhp on a 14B!!! - Tuned byAMStuning.com - - UCSPerformance -

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Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,228	Looks like a fun build. Good luck. __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

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Voodoo Lift and Separate Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Vehicle: 03 Ultra Red GS-T Posts: 1,029	Definitely looking forward to watching this as it progresses, and seeing the final product __________________ -Rob

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Pearl01Strat Low and Slow. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Friendsville,TN Vehicle: Dodge Stratus Coupe Posts: 1,226	AWD swap?? Best of luck and I can't wait to see how this unfolds. Just might motivate me to do the first AWD Stratus coupe. If you can, list price run down. __________________ My car

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cfeyhris Boostin 3G's Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cuse Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse Gs Posts: 963	what about engine mods?

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catch-me Head Swap Baby!!! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 349	this is an awsome build. I'd love to see it when it's done.

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quick92rs 2 steps closer to FI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Akron, OH Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse RS Posts: 1,214	Glad somebody is takign the time and taking lots of pictures. I plan on going AWD when I eventualy get the money and parts off the TSi.

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Flamegs23 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Miami Vehicle: Eclipse GS Posts: 293	NICE!!

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Phatblackhatc Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1	Very nice indeed!!!! I may have missed it but what diff and drive shaft are you running?

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Juan Martinez Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	Nice. I have to say, its way nicer to see this done to a 3g than a 2g. I was wondering, when you go to start on the engine bay, what subframe are you going to use. I've been gathering some information on trying to use a Galant vr-4 awd subframe from a left hand drive model. Any chance you could post up some pics of how your current subframe bolts up to the frame?

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Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,228	So let me ask, you didnt have to reform/cut out any of the lower pan of the car? Everything fit up into the frame fine? All of your pics make this look like a simple bolt on project thus far, is that true? __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

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stilwrks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arizona Vehicle: 00' GT 5 spd Posts: 3,086	Looks like you swapped out the fuel tank, why & what did you replace with? __________________ COLDWELL BANKER RESIDENTIAL BROKER "I'LL ALWAYS HAVE TIME FOR YOUR REFERRALS" 2000 Mitsi. Eclipse GT 5 spd. # 310 TTD

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Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,228	I wouldnt mind doing this awd conversion if I could find a tranny to fit up to the V-6. I doubt that the AWD tranny of the evo would work with our cars let alone the nightmare of trying to use both the V-6 ECU and an evo ECU. Maybe Evo motor swap down the line. __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

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bostonhatcher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GSX Posts: 423	No alterations to get the fuel tank to fit. Use the 2g fuel tank and 3g straps and relocate the drivers side rear tank strap bolt. There is already a hole with threads to screw a bolt into it. I drove it for the first time today. Braking and handling improved a little bit from going to drums to discs and sway bar/poly bushings. I also got my evo dropout today. I'll put pics up later.

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malachi Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Louisiana Vehicle: 2000 RS Posts: 1,754	wow, so your done already? __________________ stock RS. 16.1 in 1/4 mile car on diet, but still stock = 15.58 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS STOCK 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS N/A 2008 NEW RECORD, RS/GS N/A = 15.2 2009 DOHC + 10psi = 14.0 @ 101.89 MPH 2009 DOHC + 15psi = 13.3 @ 108 MPH

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21Strat dodge this Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Denver Vehicle: 4G64 Stratus Posts: 132	Looks awesome man. Can't wait to see the final pictures.

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Juan Martinez Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	Any updates?

10/06/2008, 02:32 AM	#27 (permalink)
bostonhatcher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GSX Posts: 423	So I bought this junk ass Evo dropout from this salvage yard over in New Jersey for $5500 shipped. They said they didn't know what condition the motor was in and they said the car had been wrecked. Obviously the motor had to be running to wreck the car right? Here is what I got: I knew I had to go through everything to find which parts needed replaced. I popped the valve cover to make sure everything was cool and the head bolts looked like the threads had protruded through the bolt head. And it looks like they had turned black from running junk oil. There was some kind of writing like apr or something on top. I wanted to make sure the clutch was ok and to make sure it was there I just took a peak through the shift fork boot and it looked like some dumbass spray painted the pressure plate yellow. What a ricer... I then went on to the bottom end and this is where I was happy. The pistons were really shiny so I knew they were healthy. Also, the connecting rod bolts had the same writing as the nasty black head bolts. Oh well. Everything was shiny so I was happy... Motor/Tranny is going in as soon as I get replacement parts... Last edited by bostonhatcher; 10/06/2008 at 02:35 AM.

10/06/2008, 07:55 AM	#28 (permalink)
white3geclipseg Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 222	so you are driving it already? awd? whatd you do for the exhaust?

10/06/2008, 09:16 AM	#30 (permalink)
malachi Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Louisiana Vehicle: 2000 RS Posts: 1,754	could it be an ACT clutch? __________________ stock RS. 16.1 in 1/4 mile car on diet, but still stock = 15.58 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS STOCK 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS N/A 2008 NEW RECORD, RS/GS N/A = 15.2 2009 DOHC + 10psi = 14.0 @ 101.89 MPH 2009 DOHC + 15psi = 13.3 @ 108 MPH

10/06/2008, 11:47 AM	#31 (permalink)
quick92rs 2 steps closer to FI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Akron, OH Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse RS Posts: 1,214	Looks good. Keep up on the pictures. It'll be good for reference.

10/06/2008, 03:53 PM	#32 (permalink)
midget Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Vehicle: '99 SVT Lightning Posts: 380	all ACT pressure plates are yellow, most likely that is what is in there...

10/06/2008, 04:07 PM	#33 (permalink)
02galant Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 189	I think he was making a joke guys.

10/07/2008, 11:03 AM	#35 (permalink)
goosey2099 4G64 5SPD/TURBO Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NY Vehicle: 2001 Galant Posts: 366	^ looks like eagle rods.. Good Find! __________________ 4G64 5 SPEED MY 5 SPEED - MY TURBO BUILD - MY CARPUTER - MY CAR

10/07/2008, 07:23 PM	#36 (permalink)
Chato Turbo/Haltech V6 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ft. Walton Beach, FL Vehicle: 00 Eclipse GT-T Posts: 1,619	Nice. __________________ Rudeness is a weak person's imitation of strength.

10/08/2008, 04:12 AM	#41 (permalink)
Ithinkyou Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cali Vehicle: 02 GS Posts: 1,489	dual walbro evo assembly... if seen a few of those on EvoM. __________________ 2002 GS 5spd, Wrx modded 440s Greddy Type-S Megan Racing Evo 8 Manifold Evo 9 turbine Invidia SS O2 Dump Custom 3" DP Catco 3" HFC Greddy EVO2 modded 3" Injen LICP Zietronix ZT2 Prosport boost fuel press. oil press. oil temp. EGT G-Speed CF hood, Tien S-techs, ADR fuel bronze 17" wheels, OLD - 2000 RS 5spd

10/08/2008, 11:07 AM	#42 (permalink)
Juan Martinez Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	From what research I've seen, you can bolt in the evo fuel pump if you want to use it. Its quite compaired to the walbro ones.

10/08/2008, 11:38 AM	#43 (permalink)
TOwEnZ boosted x2 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Vehicle: 02 WRX, 00 RS-T Posts: 171	WOW, niiiiice build dude. Can't wait to see it done. But damn dude, you must have some deep pockets! $5500 for motor, and .. $$$ for AWD parts. Hook me up with some left over turbo parts or whatever ! But good luck! __________________ - OwNiN' HoNDaS SiNce '04 ZoOm - ZooM

10/08/2008, 05:12 PM	#46 (permalink)
quick92rs 2 steps closer to FI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Akron, OH Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse RS Posts: 1,214	Yup and I don't see why not with an EVO motor. He shounds like a good candidate to do a MIVEC swap.

10/08/2008, 10:51 PM	#50 (permalink)
quick92rs 2 steps closer to FI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Akron, OH Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse RS Posts: 1,214	Doing a MIVEC swap wouldn't be so great as to make better power, but more as in an exclusive thing, kinda like the awd on this car. But it's also good for performance too so that's why the awd is happening and MIVEC isn't i guess.

10/09/2008, 01:15 PM	#53 (permalink)
quick92rs 2 steps closer to FI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Akron, OH Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse RS Posts: 1,214	Yea I think i saw somewhere the Evo 6 speed doesn't fit. Am i correct?

10/10/2008, 02:41 AM	#56 (permalink)
quick92rs 2 steps closer to FI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Akron, OH Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse RS Posts: 1,214	Would the shifter linkage out of the Evo be the appropriate length or would you use stock 3g linkage? Also what would be done about the clutch since the Evo works opposite

10/10/2008, 08:07 PM	#58 (permalink)
quick92rs 2 steps closer to FI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Akron, OH Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse RS Posts: 1,214	The Evo has push type and we have a pull type or vice versa I can't remember which way it is. But anyway they work in opposite directions. But if there isn't too big of a fuss getting the 6 speed to work, then that's the route I'm going when I go awd. The only things I could think of that would cause a big problem would be whether it would fit, the linkage, and the clutch.

10/12/2008, 04:00 PM	#60 (permalink)
kng nothg Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tamarac, Fl & Lynchburg, VA Vehicle: 2003 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 236	Very nice.... good to see a few people are also doing this. My rear end has been done about 1 1.5 -2 yrs ago...still trying to get time/money to finish my conversion. Time as in, i live in VA now and my car is in FL. Working so damn much, time flies.. Btw lots of good info/pics/etc How are you going to address the front crossmember issue?!? Your right everything is pretty much bolt on as far as the rear end (minus a few holes ) Interested in your input on this. (hoping to have the front crossmember done dec/jan time) -Rob __________________ 2003 Eclipse GS-T 5 speed Fed-spec 14 psi Last edited by kng nothg; 10/12/2008 at 04:49 PM.