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Old 09/30/2008, 09:38 AM   #61 (permalink)
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if your gunna use the car for track i know the S-tech springs are stiffer but even on my GS the drop isnt that much and with all your interior stuff gone im assuming it would be less. so i would either go sportlines or tanabe for the drop and if you want stiff springs go S-tech.
Thats what I was thinking too. I research a little about all of these springs and the results came out to what you just said. Sportlines and Tanabe are about even as it comes to quality and performance and Tein are the stiffest between all three 3. I am thinking if the tanabes or sportlines spring rates are higher than pro-kits's either way I'll be better with any of the two than the one I currently have on
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I say S-tech. You want performance not looks. The stiffer spring will be better handling wise.
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did some searching around for you (slow day at work lol) well the spring rates for the tanabe's are 3.0 front/2.6 rear. The S-techs are 4.3front/3.2 rear and the sportlines are 225F/146R (thats in lbs/in the others are in kg/mm)

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I say S-tech. You want performance not looks. The stiffer spring will be better handling wise.
I was thinking the same but I also don't want 4x4 look
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I was thinking the same but I also don't want 4x4 look
well either way it will be lower than what it is now considering you have Pro-kits on there.
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well either way it will be lower than what it is now considering you have Pro-kits on there.
Yea i know but i'm also gonna lose some good # of LBS from my car. I think I might go with S-tech and if something I can always sell them and get something different

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definately a good choice i love that exhaust too. i suggest looking to get it now before you cant find em anymore! lol

have you looked into something like this?? http://www.club3g.com/forum/parts-re...r-v-brace.html

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I believe the Prokit and Sportlines have the same spring rates.
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I believe the Prokit and Sportlines have the same spring rates.
Very similar to each other but not the same. They are both progressive type springs. I doubt that the S-tech's are progressive. Progressive means that they are soft and stiffen with force/load. Non-progressive means that it take same about of load to depress each inch/mm, whatever scale you want to use.
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I believe the Prokit and Sportlines have the same spring rates.
Stock (OEM)* : 180F/140R
Eibach Pro-Kit* : 211F/132R
Eiback Sportline: 225F/146R (calculated value)
Ground Control : 450F/250R
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S-tech or H&R, I will not recommend the Megans.

H&R will be way more expensive than the S-techs. But I'm sure that the H&R will be better quality and will be lighter than any other spring. But I doubt that is worth another 150 dollars plus for them.
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Why not get some ground control coilovers? Ya they are kinda ricer but they have a great spring rate, you can drop your car however far you want to and you can keep your Tokikos and Konis.
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Why not get some ground control coilovers? Ya they are kinda ricer but they have a great spring rate, you can drop your car however far you want to and you can keep your Tokikos and Konis.
Because slip on coilovers are like condoms, they eventually break.
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Because slip on coilovers are like condoms, they eventually break.
very true!

Emil, When I Stopped by ur house the other day took a glance at the car, Looks like your making some great progress! Keep up the good work! Hopefully you get most of it done before winter hits!
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Emil, When I Stopped by ur house the other day took a glance at the car, Looks like your making some great progress! Keep up the good work! Hopefully you get most of it done before winter hits!
Thanks, yea I hope so too or at least before first cold days
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Because slip on coilovers are like condoms, they eventually break.
So do S-Techs!

I still dont know why we are talking shocks/struts. Really you should be looking at a set of Tein SS-P's and/or another style of coilover.
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So do S-Techs!

I still dont know why we are talking shocks/struts. Really you should be looking at a set of Tein SS-P's and/or another style of coilover.
I really don't know about coilovers and our cars. I drove Kris's car and it seemed like something was missing (most likely spring fault we shall see soon) I seen your car and I don't know if there was a difference in your times , but that might be you getting used to them. i think it comes down to all driver skills and we can see that by Art's car getting unbelievably awesome times
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I really don't know about coilovers and our cars. I drove Kris's car and it seemed like something was missing (most likely spring fault we shall see soon) I seen your car and I don't know if there was a difference in your times , but that might be you getting used to them. i think it comes down to all driver skills and we can see that by Art's car getting unbelievably awesome times
I think my times should be better this weekend. I had to re-calibrate my driving and I also have to practice downshifting at high speeds. I was only .2 seconds away from Tom and 1.1 seconds away from Art on the morning course. On a course that size I used to be 2+ seconds off of Arts time. Its easy to set up a car similar to what Art is already running, but I am now in uncharted territory and I have to play/adjust things as I go. Come sunday and ride along. I never rode in Kris' car with the megans on, but I know from personal experience that I can hug turns better with the JICs.
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I think my times should be better this weekend. I had to re-calibrate my driving and I also have to practice downshifting at high speeds. I was only .2 seconds away from Tom and 1.1 seconds away from Art on the morning course. On a course that size I used to be 2+ seconds off of Arts time. Its easy to set up a car similar to what Art is already running, but I am now in uncharted territory and I have to play/adjust things as I go. Come sunday and ride along. I never rode in Kris' car with the megans on, but I know from personal experience that I can hug turns better with the JICs.
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Well all of the parts wont go on untill late winter early spring so I'm gonna research which one is best for AutoX/Race type of thing
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For the past week I've been trying o come up with an idea of what to do with my front part of interior where the main dash used to be.I spend sometime going over ideas with Kris and the only cheapest way would be doing the same thing he did to his car. On my part it would be alot more work since I still have heater core and all the stock wiring , so it was either do it right the first time or hold off the project until you get some good funds and ask someone to make it custom for you. Yesterday, I decided to use Clipse3Gt's cracked dashboard and make some customization to it.I will fabricate my main 3 gauge pod and its going to be installed where the clock pod area. next up would be the area where CD player/HVAC used to be. With everything out I will either get a custom piece of aluminum made or fabricate my own piece to cover that up and cut out the holes for the rest of the gauges and HVAC. This way I wont have trouble of relocating HVAC and all the gauges will be easily readable.

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Another item bought for my project :

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hey man, its looking good. dont forget about all the sound deadening crap! O and all the useless wireing<----- meaning make the wiring take short cuts, if it doesnt have to be 10' long wire cut it, you can rerout wire anyway you want to save weight


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hey man, its looking good. dont forget about all the sound deadening crap! O and all the useless wireing<----- meaning make the wiring take short cuts, if it doesnt have to be 10' long wire cut it, you can rerout wire anyway you want to save weight


BTW, i had a date this weekend, so i had to put everything back together in mine. and man, its going to stay like that, it feels like a whole new car! is clean, not loud, you dont smell the outside as easy.
, All the sound deadening is gone so are the front speakers and I haven't have time to do the rear speakers. All the cables for antennas gonna be out too. I decided that brake set-up will go on last since its not going o be a problem to get it at the good price. I am hoping to get RPW header before December hits so I can start installing the whole Exhaust system and tuning it. As far as the inside I am starting to work on the dash next week
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Just got this yesterday. It cost me 200 bucks plus 54 for gas to get it to my house

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This is the first time I've seen this thread of what your doing. It looks really good. I shoulda went this route when I had my car, maybe I still would have it then,lol. Thats the first time I've seen that clip of my exhaust in like a year...I miss that car.

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I drove it and it is loud but not annoyingly loud . I also gotta think about how to pass emissions so I wanna keep the cat instead of going straight pipe. I also want to sound good not like a rice machine.As to suspension i am pretty happy with my Koni/Tokico set-up. Only thing I am going to change is spring and get a stiffer ones.
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I drove it and it is loud but not annoyingly loud . I also gotta think about how to pass emissions so I wanna keep the cat instead of going straight pipe. I also want to sound good not like a rice machine.As to suspension i am pretty happy with my Koni/Tokico set-up. Only thing I am going to change is spring and get a stiffer ones.
Is ohio TSI-Two speed Idle Or both ASM-Dynod smog.
For 50/15 It may pass but the 25/25 test It will fail miserably Without a CAT
Make sure If you cut anything off exhaust to keep it for smogs.
This is my Thoughts If A ASM-Accleration Simulated mode were to be in Ohio.
I know california Law not Ohio.
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hc(hydrocarbon)-MAX at 15 mph=147 for 25mph=122Measured in parts per million
Co-15mph=.88 25mph=78
NOx(oxides of nitrogen)15mph=889,25mph=828Measured in Parts per million
CO2 and O2 differs
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Well in Ohio all the cars 96+ use OBD-II to pass emissions. So if you have any sort of Check Engine light it will fail automatically . As far as cutting the stuff I think I will keep my cat and use 02 foulers and maybe pass that wat. They were supposed to get rid off emission like 2 yrs ago but I guess only my county has them.
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Well in Ohio all the cars 96+ use OBD-II to pass emissions. So if you have any sort of Check Engine light it will fail automatically . As far as cutting the stuff I think I will keep my cat and use 02 foulers and maybe pass that wat. They were supposed to get rid off emission like 2 yrs ago but I guess only my county has them.
Googled it,Only 7 counties in ohio remain smogifiable.
Dude do they do any type of simulation such as put car on a dyno under a load?Tell me what u know about ohio smog procedure Ill try and explain why/how u can do to ur car and pass.
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Googled it,Only 7 counties in ohio remain smogifiable.
Dude do they do any type of simulation such as put car on a dyno under a load?Tell me what u know about ohio smog procedure Ill try and explain why/how u can do to ur car and pass.
They do dyno for the cars that dont have OBD-II or if OBD-II doesn't allow to connect to their PC. All cars 1996+ are connected to OBD-II and PC checks for emission. I will also run the evo ecu reflash with wideband so i gotta take that into consideration
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They do dyno for the cars that dont have OBD-II or if OBD-II doesn't allow to connect to their PC. All cars 1996+ are connected to OBD-II and PC checks for emission. I will also run the evo ecu reflash with wideband so i gotta take that into consideration
Ok Well I know california If anything is tampered/modified its a fail on visual inspection.Strange they dyno all but obd2. Ohio may be different
If you Modify your computer to not read some things It may fail Since when Plugged up to a smog machine The Cars computerPCM talks to the machine itself, making sure everything is there and working correctly.
I will need to look into Ohio's laws a little deeper Then I will PM you a solution.
Another way to legally put aftermarket parts on a car is buying it with a CARB EO sticker (the silver one on intakes) they make it 50 state legal.
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man, it sucks to be you guys! where im at, its take sticker off, show regerstation, new sticker on.


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You could always do what my dad did on his van to pass e-check. Make a section of your straight pipe unboltable and put a flange on both sides of your cat and then when you go get it checked bolt the cat in, then bolt the straight pipe back in when you get home or go to the track.
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You could always do what my dad did on his van to pass e-check. Make a section of your straight pipe unboltable and put a flange on both sides of your cat and then when you go get it checked bolt the cat in, then bolt the straight pipe back in when you get home or go to the track.
I was thinking about it but I dont know if I wanna go this route. Let's be honest Gs is not gonna be super fast unless you boost it. All i want to have those xtra HP/TQ whenever coming out of the corner. I think the car does really well as it is @ autoX events. so this being the point I think I will get a high flow cat get some 02 foulers and leave the stock ECU so I can switch it whenever I will be going to emission test, unless I can pass the emissions with EVO ECu but it wouldnt have the OBD-II which means they would have to put it on rollers. What do you guys think I should do.
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Well it is a really nice day today and I decided to put my new hood and see what it looks like. I think it looks awesome and the cutouts will help cool the engine down when Auto-X and during track days. I know the alignment is a little bit off but thats bumper's fault and will be fixed before Spring.





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OP your car looks good, where exactly in cleveland are you from? i live in strongsville
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I live in Eastlake but I spend alot of time @ Parma area. I will be in strongsville 2morrow if you wanna hang out send me ur phone number
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nice, i would, but im currently in the middle of PA for school haha. question.. did you used to live in berea?
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nice, i would, but im currently in the middle of PA for school haha. question.. did you used to live in berea?
I used to spend alot of time there by pearl and royalton rd. I was there last week over my friends house so whenever you are around shoot me a PM
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