Auto-X/Track 3G Project

Clipse3GS · 09/25/2008, 11:57 AM

Well I decided To do something different with my eclipse than just looks on the outside. I do a lot of Auto-X and possibly few events of track days next year so I thought to myself , why not making a track car. I don't drive it alot since I work from my house , my girlfriend and I are probably moving together in few months so no driving for me at all. I also have a 04 Jetta 1.8T that can be used all yea long so I decided to take the route of gutting the car out. Here are few pictures and a description of what I plan to do to it during these long winter months

4/30/2009

Well, the car is up and running and I will be doing first Auto-X event May 3rd. Timing belt with all other belts has been changed and Falken tires are mounted on new wheels. Next Week I'm hoping to do some of the gauges and possibly clean the interior from all the dust and crap that was in the car over winter.By June Car should have RPW header on it with straight pipe and Tune from Logic Gate.

drunkoffjuic · 09/25/2008, 12:01 PM

sounds awsome. I WAS thinking of doing this over the summer, but realized i had tons of bills coming up, and could not save up for a 2nd car. it looks like its coming along good.

malachi · 09/25/2008, 04:00 PM

ummm your going to want to make a bracket for your door handle and something so you can use the locks and windows.

also, since your going this far, i see alot more that can be taken out.

BTW, im in the process of doing the same thing

malachi · 09/25/2008, 04:08 PM

you've been here since 2005, come on man, SAFC? USE THE ECUFLASH!

pluss CMF header, come on, if you dont know thats a piece of shit by now....

Clipse3GS · 09/25/2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by malachi

ummm your going to want to make a bracket for your door handle and something so you can use the locks and windows.

also, since your going this far, i see alot more that can be taken out.

BTW, im in the process of doing the same thing

I will make the same brackets that Clipse3GT has in the car. As far as taking out more stuff , whole dashboard is going to be out leaving only 2 crossmembers and the stock bracket for HVAC. I might remove the sunroof and use plexi glass instead of it but i am still debating. What else you can take out that I didnt mention

Clipse3GS · 09/25/2008, 04:48 PM

I also wanna switch out my springs. I currently run Pro-Kit and was thinking to switching either to Sportlines or Tein S-tech. I need more of a drop since my car will be around 300+ lighter and that will affect ride height. What do you guys think?

Clipse3GT · 09/25/2008, 05:10 PM

Copy cat...

toogood11 · 09/25/2008, 05:11 PM

i think you should spring for some jic's or megan colilovers. if you do auto x, i wouldnt expect anything less than coilovers for all four corners.

Tx4Codeman · 09/25/2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by malachi

you've been here since 2005, come on man, SAFC? USE THE ECUFLASH!

pluss CMF header, come on, if you dont know thats a piece of shit by now....

I'm backing this up entirely. CMF shouldn't even be an option. Go with RPW's

stilwrks · 09/25/2008, 07:01 PM

FYI,Your shoulder belts are dangerous, they should be much more horazontal to the seat! The way they are they can crush your vertabra!
Glad to see you guys getting on the band wagon regards gutting the car, make sure you take out as much sound deading as possible, there is probably 25 - 30 lbs in that alone!
If i can be of any help don't hesitate as I did mine years ago! As some may know I've lightened the car over 300 lbs. Needs more but the only place I can think of is the dash but thats mostly plastic!
BTW, the car is still a whale!!!!!!!!!!

toogood11 · 09/25/2008, 07:49 PM

another thought, if you're making this a track car, ditch the stereo! whats the point in having tunes when you only drive it on track days? just unnecessary weight imo.

Tx4Codeman · 09/25/2008, 07:56 PM

Ditch the passanger seat for a big ol' bottle of spray ^_^

Clipse3GS · 09/25/2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tx4Codeman

Ditch the passanger seat for a big ol' bottle of spray ^_^

I really dont need that but that would be nice

As to the car stereo I kinda wanna keep since I'l still drive that thing around during spring-fall time couple times a week and it would be nice to have a radio. If I decide to take it out its only 15 minutes to get the brackets and wiring out... no biggie.

As to the suspension I really like my Koni/Tokico set up. I drove and seen Clipse3GT and Clipse_GT's their car with coilovers and I'm not surprised. During Auto-X I get really similar,close or sometimes better times so I guess its just a matter pf preference.

bostonhatcher · 09/26/2008, 02:58 AM

I took out all the speakers other than the front two in the door and it's plenty loud I don't even have the infinity system. I am getting a head unit and speakers with a possibly lightweight amp because with all the sound deadening and interior out from the seat back it's kind of hard to hear over the road noise. I have to play my techno music loud while I'm boosting around town LOL.

I LOVE driving gutted cars. Better braking, acceleration, handling, traction, and gas mileage. And it's free!

malachi · 09/26/2008, 08:41 AM

Ok, well just from the pictures, all the plastic on the hatch for starters.

Also all of the sound deadening material. Also there is some under the carpet.

The brackets that the back seat locks too.

And I don’t see any point in keeping the carpet or door sills if you’re not going to have a dash.

But that all I can see from the pics. Trust me, it’s a never ending story when it comes to weight reduction, search for my post when I did it.

Clipse3GS · 09/26/2008, 08:45 AM

Well all that will be gone I just didnt have time to get around to it.

Thanks for the pointers !!!

Special_K · 09/26/2008, 08:52 AM

Emil, I would consider getting atleast a roll bar like Kris has. That way you can secure your 4 point harness to it and have better luck if you were to get in an accident. Also consider a 5 point harness. Most Road tracks require it if you get into any type of real road racing. The average track day does not require it tho.

Clipse3GS · 09/26/2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CLIPSE_GT

Emil, I would consider getting atleast a roll bar like Kris has. That way you can secure your 4 point harness to it and have better luck if you were to get in an accident. Also consider a 5 point harness. Most Road tracks require it if you get into any type of real road racing. The average track day does not require it tho.

Yea , I've been considering a roll cage like Kris has but as of now my work is set on whats listed. I have plenty of time to get it. As to the harness issue I'll get a 4 point one for now and If i decide to get serious in road racing I will swap it for a 5 point one.

Well, I've read that GS guys shouldn't be using Invidia exhaust since like you said it will lose low end power. I have an awesome deal on one and was thinking if I put it one with a good header and a good tune I will be fine. What you guys think ?

Clipse3GT · 09/26/2008, 10:16 AM

I think that you dont want to go above a 2.5" diameter or you will lose alot of lower end torque and gain HP. I think the invidia is a 2.75" IIRC. So go with something in that range. The 2.4L is underpowered as is, you don't want to lose anymore.

Special_K · 09/26/2008, 10:20 AM

They (Greddy/Invidia/Injen) may have a 2G NA exhaust (2.25-2.5) that would work. I think your best bet would be a Greddy Evo/Evo II/SP2

Special_K · 09/26/2008, 10:21 AM

I would also swap out your 2000 GS ECU for a 2001+ so you can reFlash that bish. Either that or run a Haltech like Kris on your NA. The 2000 ECU can not be reflashed and an Apexi SAFC II will not keep your car tuned. The stock ECU will lean/richen itself so it is running as close to factory settings as possible.

Clipse3GT · 09/26/2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CLIPSE_GT

I would also swap out your 2000 GS ECU for a 2001+ so you can reFlash that bish. Either that or run a Haltech like Kris on your NA. The 2000 ECU can not be reflashed and an Apexi SAFC II will not keep your car tuned. The stock ECU will lean/richen itself so it is running as close to factory settings as possible.

Get a RIPP black box.

Clipse3GT · 09/26/2008, 10:47 AM

Personally, get some RPW headers, new manifold gasket, then get a downpipe made that by passes the cat then runs to a 2.25 or 2.5" cat-back exhaust. Run the antifowler mod for the O2's get a 01-05 ECU module and get it tuned by logicgate. We can ask Tony to make you a custom intake manifold that would be fun to design. But we can talk about this part later.

Clipse3GS · 09/26/2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GT

Personally, get some RPW headers, new manifold gasket, then get a downpipe made that by passes the cat then runs to a 2.25 or 2.5" cat-back exhaust. Run the antifowler mod for the O2's get a 01-05 ECU module and get it tuned by logicgate. We can ask Tony to make you a custom intake manifold that would be fun to design. But we can talk about this part later.

I was actually thinking about custom manifold and maybe bigger throttle body if anyone makes that. I have plenty of time and as all of you know money play a big part of modding the car

Kris I didnt go to NYC since some f***ing storm from Atlantic came all over east coast yesterday and its gonna rain untill Monday

Clipse3GT · 09/26/2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GS

I was actually thinking about custom manifold and maybe bigger throttle body if anyone makes that. I have plenty of time and as all of you know money play a big part of modding the car

Kris I didnt go to NYC since some f***ing storm from Atlantic came all over east coast yesterday and its gonna rain untill Monday

Oh snap.

Well I'm working second shift at the ER tonight. I might stop over later in the afternoon.

Special_K · 09/26/2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GT

Oh snap.

Well I'm working second shift at the ER tonight. I might stop over later in the afternoon.

I hope I never have to go to that hospital.

Emil, you could always get a proflow throttle body.

yanksball14 · 09/26/2008, 01:13 PM

i know this isnt in your plans, but have you thought of going FI with a smaller turbo for quick spool to give you a little better acceleration out of the turns?

Clipse3GT · 09/26/2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by yanksball14

i know this isnt in your plans, but have you thought of going FI with a smaller turbo for quick spool to give you a little better acceleration out of the turns?

Another totally different ball game. But eventually you start small and go big. LOL

Clipse3GS · 09/27/2008, 03:00 PM

Received my after market radiator hoses. As of right now I'm debating on two different exhaust Magnaflow or Brand new Greddy SP2. I've searched around but couldn't find good feedbacks anybody out here that could help out?

Clipse3GT · 09/28/2008, 05:51 PM

Get a Apexi N1 3"... you will gain like 900hp.

noricereclips · 09/28/2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by yanksball14

i know this isnt in your plans, but have you thought of going FI with a smaller turbo for quick spool to give you a little better acceleration out of the turns?

that's what I did...Street Modified class FTW!!!

Clipse3GS...why not have stock catback on the car WITH CAT and get a nice set of headers with an electric cutoff switch to have your track/auto-x setup cut your cat and catback off and have your headers with a little tip on there only?? Quietest on the street, and best/least restrictive on the track!! that's what I'd do if I were you!

Special_K · 09/29/2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by noricereclips

that's what I did...Street Modified class FTW!!!

Cant gut the car and still be in SM. That would put you in EM or even XP or FP.

Clipse3GT · 09/29/2008, 10:27 AM

Im 99% sure that you can't be in SM with a highly gutted car like that.

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GT

Im 99% sure that you can't be in SM with a highly gutted car like that.

Most likely I will be in FP with Kris and the guys who wons blue Rx-7

yanksball14 · 09/29/2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GS

Received my after market radiator hoses. As of right now I'm debating on two different exhaust Magnaflow or Brand new Greddy SP2. I've searched around but couldn't find good feedbacks anybody out here that could help out?

i have the Greddy SP2 catback on mine. its nice, install was easy, it installs under the rear suspension jsut like the EVO II, and its jsut a little bit louder than stock so its not annoying but as you get on the throttle its nice and deep. oh and btw its on my GS.

i got mine from grip motor sports for cheap because they are gettin rid of them. lemme see if i can find it.

here's the link: $254.99 and with shipping comes to $300. pretty damn good for brand new: GReddy Exhaust - Mitsubishi Eclipse SP2 Catback Exhaust System - GReddy SP2 Exhaust

Special_K · 09/29/2008, 10:52 AM

300 is not a bad price at all for the SP2.

yanksball14 · 09/29/2008, 10:55 AM

^no not at all. thats why i decided to go with it, especially since its 1. brand new 2. as much as an ebay knock-off and 3. its Greddy lol

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CLIPSE_GT

300 is not a bad price at all for the SP2.

I know but I tthink I really want to get EVo2 for the looks and amazing sound. Lately I've been getting awesome deal on the exhaust I really can't put on > Invidia for 250 (local sale)

Tx4Codeman · 09/29/2008, 11:01 AM

Why on earth are they discounting Greddy products? This is the time to bump up the price and get what they can while the products are still available.

yanksball14 · 09/29/2008, 11:02 AM

^ thats a good deal. but on a GS......

piping is too big unless you plan on going FI

Tx4Codeman · 09/29/2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GS

I know but I tthink I really want to get EVo2 for the looks and amazing sound. Lately I've been getting awesome deal on the exhaust I really can't put on > Invidia for 250 (local sale)

I've owned the evo 2 for just over a year, and at times I really considered picking up the sp2 for a quieter sound. It has a nice town at idle, but for daily driving it can make a quite annoying echo.

yanksball14 · 09/29/2008, 11:05 AM

im curious and im toying with the idea of an RPW header with the SP2 catback?? becuase the catback is quiet maybe cancel out some of the rasp?? like i said im still playing with the idea

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tx4Codeman

I've owned the evo 2 for just over a year, and at times I really considered picking up the sp2 for a quieter sound. It has a nice town at idle, but for daily driving it can make a quite annoying echo.

I still have some time to decide and I'm not a really big fan of the Sp2 muffler style (not the tip). I also wants something that will sound nice with header. I heard a video clip of a gs with I believe CMF header and it sounded beautiful.

yanksball14 · 09/29/2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GS

I still have some time to decide and I'm not a really big fan of the Sp2 muffler style (not the tip). I also wants something that will sound nice with header. I heard a video clip of a gs with I believe CMF header and it sounded beautiful.

with what catback??

Tx4Codeman · 09/29/2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GS

I still have some time to decide and I'm not a really big fan of the Sp2 muffler style (not the tip). I also wants something that will sound nice with header. I heard a video clip of a gs with I believe CMF header and it sounded beautiful.

Sound may be a bit difference comparing the both of us. The 3.5 on rpw's growls.

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by yanksball14

with what catback??

Yea, I'm not gonna use my car until Spring of 09' so I don't need to rush things and buy everything now. I also wanna get rid of stock exhaust for some weight reduction. I don't know how much weight difference there will be but the stock muffler that i threw out 2 years ago was f***ing heavy compared to a Magnaflow one.

yanksball14 · 09/29/2008, 11:18 AM

you could always get a header and a magnaflow muffler and some stainless steel pipe and make your own as well.

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by yanksball14

you could always get a header and a magnaflow muffler and some stainless steel pipe and make your own as well.

I was thinking about that especially when I have a really nice Magnaflow muffler installed as we speak and I love it . I will keep that option open if I can't come up with any exhaust in the next couple of months. I also had my eyes on Tanabe Medallion (newest one) but there are only mayve 2 people who have this catback here.

noricereclips · 09/29/2008, 11:40 AM

did you ever read my idea about the cutoff/cutout thingy?

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by noricereclips

did you ever read my idea about the cutoff/cutout thingy?

I did and the only thing I don't like is the stock-catback since it weight a good numbers and i wanna get my car as lightest possible to even get close to the cars in my class.

Clipse3GT · 09/29/2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by noricereclips

did you ever read my idea about the cutoff/cutout thingy?

SLight problem with that. Is that there is a decibel restriction where we race. I am not sure if a cut of will not be too loud. Secondly you will lose a bit of back pressure with that system, especially on a 4banger. I would recommend against it for the fact that you lose torque and gain HP. On there AutoX courses torque = acceleration. It's a good idea, but I don't think its a good idea for a 2.4L eclipse.

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipse3GT

SLight problem with that. Is that there is a decibel restriction where we race. I am not sure if a cut of will not be too loud. Secondly you will lose a bit of back pressure with that system, especially on a 4banger. I would recommend against it for the fact that you lose torque and gain HP. On there AutoX courses torque = acceleration. It's a good idea, but I don't think its a good idea for a 2.4L eclipse.

ASCC have no sound restriction but at some events like Eastlake (small area with a lot of businesses,people around) they said it might not be a good idea to bring a really loud cars ( like that silver beemer at Northfield last year) since there might be complaints from people who live near by.

Special_K · 09/29/2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tx4Codeman

Why on earth are they discounting Greddy products?

Maybe because 2 weeks ago Greddy filed for Bankruptcy.

yanksball14 · 09/29/2008, 01:40 PM

^ yeah but that site has been discounting the SP2 since i got mine in may

Tx4Codeman · 09/29/2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CLIPSE_GT

Maybe because 2 weeks ago Greddy filed for Bankruptcy.

Correct.. but you may not be understanding what I am saying. Check Tearstone & Wesellcarparts. The prices of Greddy products have shot up quite amount. Probably because greddy is trying to scrap up every dime possible. What I don't understand is why the site listed above is LOWERING the price of the products. It is as if they fear it will not sell.

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tx4Codeman

Correct.. but you may not be understanding what I am saying. Check Tearstone & Wesellcarparts. The prices of Greddy products have shot up quite amount. Probably because greddy is trying to scrap up every dime possible. What I don't understand is why the site listed above is LOWERING the price of the products. It is as if they fear it will not sell.

I got no idea maybe because people are buying alot of their Greddy products and they go for cheaper price but more quantities to sell instead of high price and small amount of things sold. It will even its self out for the company but the word will spread out quicker because people tend to look at the lower price.

Special_K · 09/29/2008, 02:06 PM

Hows the interior sale going? Got enough money yet for some new parts? If I were you I would work on finding a place that sells RPW stuff if you want there headers. Tearstone no longer carries any of there equipment. Also I would look into a brake duct kit. I believe the Evo/Brembo brake ducts will fit up to the 3g front rotors. I think the kit cost about 400 bucks but it is well worth it if your going to be doing some track days.

Clipse3GS · 09/29/2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CLIPSE_GT

Hows the interior sale going? Got enough money yet for some new parts? If I were you I would work on finding a place that sells RPW stuff if you want there headers. Tearstone no longer carries any of there equipment. Also I would look into a brake duct kit. I believe the Evo/Brembo brake ducts will fit up to the 3g front rotors. I think the kit cost about 400 bucks but it is well worth it if your going to be doing some track days.

I'm in the process of wrapping interior and getting ready for shipping. I got a sale pending on rear seats,door panels. If i sell all that stuff I'll have around 1000+. I'm thinking about throwing Airbags on Ebay for like 400 bucks if I cant sell them here. As to the kit I might consider it later next year if I don't get BBK. I'm trying to get done as much as possible before cold days get to OH

I probably move out sometimes during Jan/Feb months so that will affect my funds for working on my car and that is another reason why I wanna get stuff before winter.

Clipse3GS · 09/30/2008, 09:21 AM

Another problem I came across today. I am ready to order my springs but Dont know which one to get. The reason for switching is drop I want to achieve. As of right now car sits pretty high because all the interior,trunk stuff is gone and Pro-Kit will no cut the drop. I was thinking about S-tech but will 1.6' be enough? anther brand I was thinking is Sportlines 2' around.I also found that Tanabe (F-2.1 R-1.9) makes springs with the drop that would work good for GS since its lighter up front. I really don't wanna go coilovers since my budget is limited. So summarizing I have these options

1.Tein S-techs
2.Eibach Sportlines
3.Tanabe Sport

yanksball14 · 09/30/2008, 09:25 AM

if your gunna use the car for track i know the S-tech springs are stiffer but even on my GS the drop isnt that much and with all your interior stuff gone im assuming it would be less. so i would either go sportlines or tanabe for the drop and if you want stiff springs go S-tech.

09/25/2008, 11:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
Clipse3GS Hello :) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Vehicle: 08 Evo X /00 GS track car Posts: 4,759	Auto-X/Track 3G Project Well I decided To do something different with my eclipse than just looks on the outside. I do a lot of Auto-X and possibly few events of track days next year so I thought to myself , why not making a track car. I don't drive it alot since I work from my house , my girlfriend and I are probably moving together in few months so no driving for me at all. I also have a 04 Jetta 1.8T that can be used all yea long so I decided to take the route of gutting the car out. Here are few pictures and a description of what I plan to do to it during these long winter months 4/30/2009 Well, the car is up and running and I will be doing first Auto-X event May 3rd. Timing belt with all other belts has been changed and Falken tires are mounted on new wheels. Next Week I'm hoping to do some of the gauges and possibly clean the interior from all the dust and crap that was in the car over winter.By June Car should have RPW header on it with straight pipe and Tune from Logic Gate. __________________ [FONT="Century GothiceeFONT] Last edited by Clipse3GS; 04/30/2009 at 01:38 PM.

09/25/2008, 12:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
drunkoffjuic Aple juic is my beer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Vehicle: 02 Eclipse GT Posts: 1,573	sounds awsome. I WAS thinking of doing this over the summer, but realized i had tons of bills coming up, and could not save up for a 2nd car. it looks like its coming along good. __________________ HOME PAGE

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malachi Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Louisiana Vehicle: 2000 RS Posts: 1,753	ummm your going to want to make a bracket for your door handle and something so you can use the locks and windows. also, since your going this far, i see alot more that can be taken out. BTW, im in the process of doing the same thing __________________ stock RS. 16.1 in 1/4 mile car on diet, but still stock = 15.58 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS STOCK 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS N/A 2008 NEW RECORD, RS/GS N/A = 15.2 2009 DOHC + 10psi = 14.0 @ 101.89 MPH 2009 DOHC + 15psi = 13.3 @ 108 MPH Last edited by malachi; 09/25/2008 at 04:04 PM.

09/25/2008, 04:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
malachi Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Louisiana Vehicle: 2000 RS Posts: 1,753	you've been here since 2005, come on man, SAFC? USE THE ECUFLASH! pluss CMF header, come on, if you dont know thats a piece of shit by now.... __________________ stock RS. 16.1 in 1/4 mile car on diet, but still stock = 15.58 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS STOCK 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS N/A 2008 NEW RECORD, RS/GS N/A = 15.2 2009 DOHC + 10psi = 14.0 @ 101.89 MPH 2009 DOHC + 15psi = 13.3 @ 108 MPH

09/25/2008, 04:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Clipse3GS Hello :) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Vehicle: 08 Evo X /00 GS track car Posts: 4,759	I also wanna switch out my springs. I currently run Pro-Kit and was thinking to switching either to Sportlines or Tein S-tech. I need more of a drop since my car will be around 300+ lighter and that will affect ride height. What do you guys think? __________________ [FONT="Century GothiceeFONT]

09/25/2008, 05:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Clipse3GT Ah yes... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Vehicle: 00 GT RIPP STG.3 & EVO X Posts: 10,866	Copy cat...

09/25/2008, 05:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
toogood11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Ohio State University Posts: 1,432	i think you should spring for some jic's or megan colilovers. if you do auto x, i wouldnt expect anything less than coilovers for all four corners. __________________ just another n00b watching n00bs even MORE DUMB than myself blowing their shit up one start up at a time.

09/25/2008, 07:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
stilwrks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arizona Vehicle: 00' GT 5 spd Posts: 3,086	FYI,Your shoulder belts are dangerous, they should be much more horazontal to the seat! The way they are they can crush your vertabra! Glad to see you guys getting on the band wagon regards gutting the car, make sure you take out as much sound deading as possible, there is probably 25 - 30 lbs in that alone! If i can be of any help don't hesitate as I did mine years ago! As some may know I've lightened the car over 300 lbs. Needs more but the only place I can think of is the dash but thats mostly plastic! BTW, the car is still a whale!!!!!!!!!! __________________ COLDWELL BANKER RESIDENTIAL BROKER "I'LL ALWAYS HAVE TIME FOR YOUR REFERRALS" 2000 Mitsi. Eclipse GT 5 spd. # 310 TTD

09/25/2008, 07:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
toogood11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Ohio State University Posts: 1,432	another thought, if you're making this a track car, ditch the stereo! whats the point in having tunes when you only drive it on track days? just unnecessary weight imo. __________________ just another n00b watching n00bs even MORE DUMB than myself blowing their shit up one start up at a time.

09/25/2008, 07:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tx4Codeman Legendary Member Simon Champion! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Orlando Vehicle: 3.5L SDS 03GT Posts: 4,027	Ditch the passanger seat for a big ol' bottle of spray ^_^ __________________ http://www.club3g.com/forum/members-...-03-3g-gt.html

09/26/2008, 02:58 AM	#14 (permalink)
bostonhatcher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GSX Posts: 420	I took out all the speakers other than the front two in the door and it's plenty loud I don't even have the infinity system. I am getting a head unit and speakers with a possibly lightweight amp because with all the sound deadening and interior out from the seat back it's kind of hard to hear over the road noise. I have to play my techno music loud while I'm boosting around town LOL. I LOVE driving gutted cars. Better braking, acceleration, handling, traction, and gas mileage. And it's free!

09/26/2008, 08:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
malachi Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Louisiana Vehicle: 2000 RS Posts: 1,753	Ok, well just from the pictures, all the plastic on the hatch for starters. Also all of the sound deadening material. Also there is some under the carpet. The brackets that the back seat locks too. And I don’t see any point in keeping the carpet or door sills if you’re not going to have a dash. But that all I can see from the pics. Trust me, it’s a never ending story when it comes to weight reduction, search for my post when I did it. __________________ stock RS. 16.1 in 1/4 mile car on diet, but still stock = 15.58 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS STOCK 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS N/A 2008 NEW RECORD, RS/GS N/A = 15.2 2009 DOHC + 10psi = 14.0 @ 101.89 MPH 2009 DOHC + 15psi = 13.3 @ 108 MPH

09/26/2008, 08:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
Clipse3GS Hello :) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Vehicle: 08 Evo X /00 GS track car Posts: 4,759	Well all that will be gone I just didnt have time to get around to it. Thanks for the pointers !!! __________________ [FONT="Century GothiceeFONT]

09/26/2008, 08:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,228	Emil, I would consider getting atleast a roll bar like Kris has. That way you can secure your 4 point harness to it and have better luck if you were to get in an accident. Also consider a 5 point harness. Most Road tracks require it if you get into any type of real road racing. The average track day does not require it tho. __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

09/26/2008, 10:16 AM	#19 (permalink)
Clipse3GT Ah yes... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Vehicle: 00 GT RIPP STG.3 & EVO X Posts: 10,866	I think that you dont want to go above a 2.5" diameter or you will lose alot of lower end torque and gain HP. I think the invidia is a 2.75" IIRC. So go with something in that range. The 2.4L is underpowered as is, you don't want to lose anymore.

09/26/2008, 10:20 AM	#20 (permalink)
Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,228	They (Greddy/Invidia/Injen) may have a 2G NA exhaust (2.25-2.5) that would work. I think your best bet would be a Greddy Evo/Evo II/SP2 __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

09/26/2008, 10:21 AM	#21 (permalink)
Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,228	I would also swap out your 2000 GS ECU for a 2001+ so you can reFlash that bish. Either that or run a Haltech like Kris on your NA. The 2000 ECU can not be reflashed and an Apexi SAFC II will not keep your car tuned. The stock ECU will lean/richen itself so it is running as close to factory settings as possible. __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

09/26/2008, 10:47 AM	#23 (permalink)
Clipse3GT Ah yes... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Vehicle: 00 GT RIPP STG.3 & EVO X Posts: 10,866	Personally, get some RPW headers, new manifold gasket, then get a downpipe made that by passes the cat then runs to a 2.25 or 2.5" cat-back exhaust. Run the antifowler mod for the O2's get a 01-05 ECU module and get it tuned by logicgate. We can ask Tony to make you a custom intake manifold that would be fun to design. But we can talk about this part later.

09/26/2008, 01:13 PM	#27 (permalink)
yanksball14 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fishkill, NY Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse GS Posts: 1,038	i know this isnt in your plans, but have you thought of going FI with a smaller turbo for quick spool to give you a little better acceleration out of the turns?

09/27/2008, 03:00 PM	#29 (permalink)
Clipse3GS Hello :) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Vehicle: 08 Evo X /00 GS track car Posts: 4,759	Received my after market radiator hoses. As of right now I'm debating on two different exhaust Magnaflow or Brand new Greddy SP2. I've searched around but couldn't find good feedbacks anybody out here that could help out? __________________ [FONT="Century GothiceeFONT]

09/28/2008, 05:51 PM	#30 (permalink)
Clipse3GT Ah yes... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Vehicle: 00 GT RIPP STG.3 & EVO X Posts: 10,866	Get a Apexi N1 3"... you will gain like 900hp.

09/29/2008, 10:27 AM	#33 (permalink)
Clipse3GT Ah yes... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Vehicle: 00 GT RIPP STG.3 & EVO X Posts: 10,866	Im 99% sure that you can't be in SM with a highly gutted car like that.

09/29/2008, 10:52 AM	#36 (permalink)
Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,228	300 is not a bad price at all for the SP2. __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

09/29/2008, 10:55 AM	#37 (permalink)
yanksball14 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fishkill, NY Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse GS Posts: 1,038	^no not at all. thats why i decided to go with it, especially since its 1. brand new 2. as much as an ebay knock-off and 3. its Greddy lol

09/29/2008, 11:01 AM	#39 (permalink)
Tx4Codeman Legendary Member Simon Champion! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Orlando Vehicle: 3.5L SDS 03GT Posts: 4,027	Why on earth are they discounting Greddy products? This is the time to bump up the price and get what they can while the products are still available. __________________ http://www.club3g.com/forum/members-...-03-3g-gt.html

09/29/2008, 11:02 AM	#40 (permalink)
yanksball14 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fishkill, NY Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse GS Posts: 1,038	^ thats a good deal. but on a GS...... piping is too big unless you plan on going FI

09/29/2008, 11:05 AM	#42 (permalink)
yanksball14 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fishkill, NY Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse GS Posts: 1,038	im curious and im toying with the idea of an RPW header with the SP2 catback?? becuase the catback is quiet maybe cancel out some of the rasp?? like i said im still playing with the idea

09/29/2008, 11:18 AM	#47 (permalink)
yanksball14 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fishkill, NY Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse GS Posts: 1,038	you could always get a header and a magnaflow muffler and some stainless steel pipe and make your own as well.

09/29/2008, 11:40 AM	#49 (permalink)
noricereclips BOOST gets me laid! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: McLean, VA Vehicle: 92 S13 coupe + wrangler Posts: 1,147	did you ever read my idea about the cutoff/cutout thingy? __________________ 296.3 lb-ft fwtq & 263 fwhp on a 14B!!! - Tuned byAMStuning.com - - UCSPerformance -

09/29/2008, 01:40 PM	#54 (permalink)
yanksball14 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fishkill, NY Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse GS Posts: 1,038	^ yeah but that site has been discounting the SP2 since i got mine in may

09/29/2008, 02:06 PM	#57 (permalink)
Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,228	Hows the interior sale going? Got enough money yet for some new parts? If I were you I would work on finding a place that sells RPW stuff if you want there headers. Tearstone no longer carries any of there equipment. Also I would look into a brake duct kit. I believe the Evo/Brembo brake ducts will fit up to the 3g front rotors. I think the kit cost about 400 bucks but it is well worth it if your going to be doing some track days. __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

09/30/2008, 09:21 AM	#59 (permalink)
Clipse3GS Hello :) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Vehicle: 08 Evo X /00 GS track car Posts: 4,759	Another problem I came across today. I am ready to order my springs but Dont know which one to get. The reason for switching is drop I want to achieve. As of right now car sits pretty high because all the interior,trunk stuff is gone and Pro-Kit will no cut the drop. I was thinking about S-tech but will 1.6' be enough? anther brand I was thinking is Sportlines 2' around.I also found that Tanabe (F-2.1 R-1.9) makes springs with the drop that would work good for GS since its lighter up front. I really don't wanna go coilovers since my budget is limited. So summarizing I have these options 1.Tein S-techs 2.Eibach Sportlines 3.Tanabe Sport __________________ [FONT="Century GothiceeFONT]

09/30/2008, 09:25 AM	#60 (permalink)
yanksball14 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fishkill, NY Vehicle: 2002 Eclipse GS Posts: 1,038	if your gunna use the car for track i know the S-tech springs are stiffer but even on my GS the drop isnt that much and with all your interior stuff gone im assuming it would be less. so i would either go sportlines or tanabe for the drop and if you want stiff springs go S-tech.