Performance ECU Flash for Eclipse GT/GTS/GS!!!!! - Page 11

repforenzo · 06/25/2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DNS-EN

The reason my ecuflash has all the options working is because I have been testing Flash's definitions. He definately knows wtf he's doing.

Nice, but is that maybe what Jason may have meant.... That you can add more map definition but the ECU won't read them? How can you be sure? It must be in the code somewhere....

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http://forums.openecu.org/viewtopic....open+loop+load
http://www.pencomputing.com/blog/arc..._loop_tun.html
http://www.scoobypedia.co.uk/index.p...ECUTuningGuide
Both are very informative to earlier questions.

Thanks, I'll go through that stuff.

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^^^^^hells yeah
Thats one of the reason i didnt want to upgrade my piggyback unit. im really hoping within the next month or so that reflashing our ecu wll be used more.

Yeah, the more people post stuff like DNS, the faster the understanding will sink in. Randy, you might find that you can slowly start replacing what the e-manage does. Starting with fuel ratios first and then you can work to timing. Ultimately, the goal would be to pull the e-manage and tuck the harness out of view.

repforenzo · 06/25/2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DNS-EN

http://forums.openecu.org/viewtopic....open+loop+load
http://www.pencomputing.com/blog/arc..._loop_tun.html
http://www.scoobypedia.co.uk/index.p...ECUTuningGuide
Both are very informative to earlier questions.

Hey, I just read your attachments. The first one talks about rescaling the maps for higher load.... beyond 100% (or 5.6 which is the scale they use in the uk).

So, I'm a little confused: did you hit 100% at 8-psi or did it happen at 1-2 psi? The bad news is that the ECU might just use the maps at the 100% load range for all engine loads above 100%. The good news is that rpm level does not remain static, so you can account for higher engine load with rpm level, but it is not as precise.

The second article talked about using closed loop all the time and I totally disagree. What the author neglected to mention is that closed loop operation takes time... meaning in some cases, the ECU can't tune fast enough for certain situations and engine damage can occur. When your on the highway, or have engine loads below 30-55%, the ECU can do its thing with closed loop. It's better for fuel economy and emissions. However, if I look a your high octane map, at 2500-4000rpm you are at 14.7 @ 50% engine load. At 60% load, your maps drop to 12.5, so that needs to happen rather quickly and being in open loop at that time would be better.

I didn't ask before, but did you change your open loop maps?

Thanks again for the info.

DNS-EN · 06/25/2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by repforenzo

Hey, I just read your attachments. The first one talks about rescaling the maps for higher load.... beyond 100% (or 5.6 which is the scale they use in the uk).

So, I'm a little confused: did you hit 100% at 8-psi or did it happen at 1-2 psi? The bad news is that the ECU might just use the maps at the 100% load range for all engine loads above 100%. The good news is that rpm level does not remain static, so you can account for higher engine load with rpm level, but it is not as precise.

The second article talked about using closed loop all the time and I totally disagree. What the author neglected to mention is that closed loop operation takes time... meaning in some cases, the ECU can't tune fast enough for certain situations and engine damage can occur. When your on the highway, or have engine loads below 30-55%, the ECU can do its thing with closed loop. It's better for fuel economy and emissions. However, if I look a your high octane map, at 2500-4000rpm you are at 14.7 @ 50% engine load. At 60% load, your maps drop to 12.5, so that needs to happen rather quickly and being in open loop at that time would be better.

I didn't ask before, but did you change your open loop maps?

Thanks again for the info.

This tune is good for 13 psi

repforenzo · 06/25/2006, 06:24 PM

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This tune is good for 13 psi

Right on.

I can't tell, but it looks like you changed some settings in Open Loop #1 (my maps are for the 6g72 so they might be different) and Open Loop #2 seems unchanged.

My plan is to have Open Loop #1 engage at 30-40% and then trim Open Loop #2 back to 60%. Both would be earily in the rpm/load range.

DNS-EN · 06/26/2006, 07:15 PM

I wonder if Jay would mind explaining how the different settings affect the tune? Like accel enrichment etc.

toogood11 · 06/26/2006, 07:35 PM

i may not understand, but those fuel maps arent drastically different than stock.

repforenzo · 06/26/2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by toogood11

i may not understand, but those fuel maps arent drastically different than stock.

If you look at the mid rpm & load range, DNS-EN's maps richens up much quicker than the stock maps (I don't have the GS maps to compare, but they can't be much different than the 6G72). That can be all the difference in the world. Most detonation damage happens before WOT.

DNS-EN · 06/27/2006, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by repforenzo

If you look at the mid rpm & load range, DNS-EN's maps richens up much quicker than the stock maps (I don't have the GS maps to compare, but they can't be much different than the 6G72). That can be all the difference in the world. Most detonation damage happens before WOT.

Actually the gts and gt maps are alot leaner. Heres the stock gs fuel maps compared to the ones I modified.

LogicGate · 06/27/2006, 11:41 AM

Would be nice to get the bin or hex code from anyone that did the tune for a GT 2001 with CAI.

repforenzo · 06/27/2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DNS-EN

Actually the gts and gt maps are alot leaner. Heres the stock gs fuel maps compared to the ones I modified.

Yeah, and that is why the 6G72 is a pain to tune with a piggyback. It can be done, but if you don't tune the middle part of the rpm/load range, you can expect detonation there.

Again, thanks for posting your maps.

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Would be nice to get the bin or hex code from anyone that did the tune for a GT 2001 with CAI.

Yeah, it be good for reference, but you still have tune specifically to your car. People wanted me to post my SAFC numbers, which I was happy to do, however... everybodys tune is a little different from one another. You really can't get away for a dyno tune and datalogging.

FlashBlueRS · 06/27/2006, 05:40 PM

I just wanted to let everyone that has posted a ROM know that I will try to write the definitions within the next few days. I have about 7 ROMs to go through. I have been staying pretty busy with my car lately. This DOHC swap is bad ass.

LogicGate · 06/27/2006, 06:04 PM

I know its out of topic but wish I would have gotten the GS version. More options. I don't know if we can do the DOHC swap for our engines with parts from the 3000gt. I wounder how much difference it would make.

repforenzo · 06/27/2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicGate

I know its out of topic but wish I would have gotten the GS version. More options. I don't know if we can do the DOHC swap for our engines with parts from the 3000gt. I wounder how much difference it would make.

I'm not really sure why you would say such a thing... but I base it on the initial lack of support in the aftermarket world for the 3g (both 4g63 & 6g72).

Granted, the 3g 4g63 has some advantages in the aftermarket world and it can handle a bit more boost on stock internals (stroke & bore are more ideal), but the 6G72 has much more potential.

I'm not trying to start a 6-banger vs. a 4-banger debate, cause it has been done on other threads. I've always like the 4g63... probably the best 4-banger to boost out there. All things equal, there is no replacement for displacement... and the extra bang per revolution also helps.

Now, that the aftermarket world is finally mature for the 6g72, this flash comes out and makes it easier.

As far as going to DOHC... this has also be posted numerous times... the main advantage is you can rev the engine a lot higher than a SOHC setup. However, your intake system has to be efficient at those higher rpms, so you'd have to change that out, too.

Mits did a good job on this engine to begin with... so with mild boost (6-8 psi) you'll get over 300 whp. With this tuning tool, I hope to obtain more on the stock internals.

Back to topic...

repforenzo · 06/27/2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

I just wanted to let everyone that has posted a ROM know that I will try to write the definitions within the next few days. I have about 7 ROMs to go through. I have been staying pretty busy with my car lately. This DOHC swap is bad ass.

You the man! Care to tackle any GT/GTS roms?

FlashBlueRS · 06/27/2006, 09:14 PM

I'm going to do my best with all of them. At the very least, they will have injector scaling, rev limit, speed limit, immobilizer and fuel and timing maps. That would be more than enough to get everyone started.

If anyone hasn't done so already, post up your ROM or send me an email.

gtbrian · 06/27/2006, 10:10 PM

ok i am not upto speed with all the jargen, but would someone with the usual naturally aspirated gt. using the average i/h/e setup, would they see gains by only adjusting the fuel and timing maps. or even simpler just the loop that is wot.

Xrs2 · 06/27/2006, 10:11 PM

Yeah you should see the same gains you would get from tuning with a safcII. Maybe better if they do it right.

FlashBlueRS · 06/27/2006, 10:31 PM

You would get much better gains with the ECUFlash. First, an AFC tricks the ecu into doing what you want it to do. This requires constant retuning if not done perfectly. Programming the ECU to do what you want it to do is much more efficient and reliable. Also, you can't adjust timing with an AFC. The timing maps are very conservative and have alot of room for improvement. Plus, the ECUFlash is half the price of an AFC with so much more to offer.

Just being able to change the immobilzer code of a new ECU instead of going to a dealer makes it worth the price.

goosey2099 · 06/28/2006, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

Just being able to change the immobilzer code of a new ECU instead of going to a dealer makes it worth the price.

What???? Out of all the threads I must have missed this one, how can i do this as i'm going to the dealer to get a 2000 eclipse ecu reprogramed tommorow so i can pass NY inspection.

FlashBlueRS · 06/28/2006, 02:34 AM

Hook the cable up to your current ECU and read the immobilizer code. Put in the new ECU and change the immobilizer code. Doesn't get any easier than that.

repforenzo · 06/28/2006, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by goosey2099

What???? Out of all the threads I must have missed this one, how can i do this as i'm going to the dealer to get a 2000 eclipse ecu reprogramed tommorow so i can pass NY inspection.

You also missed that the 2000 3g uses an older processor and can't be accessed by this flash... yet.

DNS-EN · 06/28/2006, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by repforenzo

You the man! Care to tackle any GT/GTS roms?

Here's a stock gts rom that already has definitions.

97560014.bin

slwdwn3g · 06/28/2006, 08:28 AM

my 2002 gt auto rom is posted up on an earlier post on this thread

goosey2099 · 06/28/2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by repforenzo

You also missed that the 2000 3g uses an older processor and can't be accessed by this flash... yet.

That I didn't miss. So if I was to go from 2001 auto ecu to a manual one, what would I have to change inside the hex file.

Box · 06/28/2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slwdwn3g

my 2002 gt auto rom is posted up on an earlier post on this thread

Maybe we could start a thread specifically for the ROMs and definitions, and leave this thread to the discussion of the software. That way people don't have to dig through nine pages of discussion to find a ROM.

It would help if there was an index of all stock ROMs with there definitions in the initial post. I have server space I could use to host them, if needed.

LogicGate · 06/28/2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Box

Maybe we could start a thread specifically for the ROMs and definitions, and leave this thread to the discussion of the software. That way people don't have to dig through nine pages of discussion to find a ROM.

It would help if there was an index of all stock ROMs with there definitions in the initial post. I have server space I could use to host them, if needed.

Agreed. Maybe have a sticky where the roms could be located. I wonder if the admin would allow rom uploads to their servers. With a donation

or take Box's offer

FlashBlueRS · 06/28/2006, 07:56 PM

Keep the ROMs coming. I'm going to try to make an updated rommetadata folder available for download later on tonight. I'll also post all of the ROMS I have collected.

FlashBlueRS · 06/29/2006, 03:19 PM

Here are the definitions for everyone that has sent me a ROM, including the Galant and the two ROMS on the Mynes download page that didn't work.
Right-Click, Save as
rommetadata.zip

If you have a 2001 GS Automatic, get in touch with me. Something was wrong with the hex file.

If anyone has a ROM that doesn't work after adding these definitions to the rommetadata folder, send it to me. Also, if any FI guys need some other parameters, let me know and I'll get it working for you. It would take me a very long time to do that for every ROM when most people won't need, or know how to use, more than what I have already made available.

DJ_21 · 06/29/2006, 03:27 PM

That probably was me. I have a 2001 GS AT. I also have a turbo in my car. Do you want me to send you the ROM again?

FlashBlueRS · 06/29/2006, 03:33 PM

If you could, go read the ECU again and send that one to me.

DJ_21 · 06/29/2006, 04:10 PM

I went to the car and read the ECU again and sent it to your email under rollngstne@yahoo.com.

Sorry about that.

LogicGate · 06/29/2006, 05:45 PM

I don't know which one is for an AT or for an MT.

FlashBlueRS · 06/29/2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicGate

I don't know which one is for an AT or for an MT.

Updated definitions with the one for your ECU
Right-Click, Save as
rommetadata.zip

LogicGate · 06/29/2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

Updated definitions with the one for your ECU
Right-Click, Save as
rommetadata.zip

How come many things are now disabled?

FlashBlueRS · 06/29/2006, 06:57 PM

Were you able to look at your ROM before?

LogicGate · 06/29/2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

Were you able to look at your ROM before?

It would open using the 2001 Eclipse GT xml i think that came with the software. The only ones that doesn't show are the boost and the knock

FlashBlueRS · 06/29/2006, 07:23 PM

Your ROM from your ECU could not be opened using any of the xml files that came with the software. Your ROM's identifier is 86720008 and I had to make the xml file for it. Because I had to make it, many parameters are not disabled. It's the opposite, a few parameters are now enabled.

LogicGate · 06/29/2006, 07:34 PM

I apologize Yours have all the data organized. Just these settings are not showing

FlashBlueRS · 06/29/2006, 08:00 PM

It would take some time to find those. If you change your user level to advanced or developer, you would see that there are 59 parameters that are not available.

For anyone that hasn't actually seen the hex code, I found a way to convert the ROM to a text document so I could show you exactly what you are dealing with when trying to find parameters and create the xml file.
ROM Text
That is 16,384 lines of hexidecimal code that needs to be sifted through in order to find the parameters.

LogicGate · 06/29/2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

It would take some time to find those. If you change your user level to advanced or developer, you would see that there are 59 parameters that are not available.

For anyone that hasn't actually seen the hex code, I found a way to convert the ROM to a text document so I could show you exactly what you are dealing with when trying to find parameters and create the xml file.
ROM Text
That is 16,384 lines of hexidecimal code that needs to be sifted through in order to find the parameters.

There is not way to change it to assembly or c/c++ code?? I noticed also that most of the settings available in developer will not work with our processor as far as I know

LogicGate · 06/29/2006, 10:23 PM

Are you using the hex patterns from the evos or other roms that are fully defined? If so I am sure I can help decode it.

FlashBlueRS · 06/30/2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicGate

Are you using the hex patterns from the evos or other roms that are fully defined? If so I am sure I can help decode it.

That's how I find the easy stuff like fuel and timing maps. I have IDA Pro Standard so I can disassemble the hex files, but I am having a hard time finding the SDK for the Hitachi SH series processors that comes with IDA Pro Advanced. Once I'm able to dissassemble the hex file i'll be able to do alot more.

I have found 30 parameters on my personal ROM by just comparing with other ROMs and completed xml files. It is just a guess and check process and I would never make an xml file available for download that I did in this manor. I don't want to be blamed when someone blows their car up.

LogicGate · 06/30/2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

That's how I find the easy stuff like fuel and timing maps. I have IDA Pro Standard so I can disassemble the hex files, but I am having a hard time finding the SDK for the Hitachi SH series processors that comes with IDA Pro Advanced. Once I'm able to dissassemble the hex file i'll be able to do alot more.

I have found 30 parameters on my personal ROM by just comparing with other ROMs and completed xml files. It is just a guess and check process and I would never make an xml file available for download that I did in this manor. I don't want to be blamed when someone blows their car up.

lol Finding the SDK would be as easy as reading the hex code through notepad. Where can I get the IDA Pro Standard? I noticed there is alot of addressing in the hex code. Is the chip different for everyone?? if so do you think the block diagram inside is different? I wouldn't understand why they would do such a stupid thing, but then its mitsubishi they do alot of things stupid (no reasoning).

Which processor are you using when your viewing it through the dissasebler? Sh!t this software is bad ass!!!!!

LogicGate · 06/30/2006, 02:06 PM

I'll begin tracking the SDK for the processor. Let me know the answer to the questions I asked above about the processor.

LogicGate · 06/30/2006, 02:23 PM

I was thinking about ordering it until I saw the advanced price

Price: Advanced:$875

FlashBlueRS · 06/30/2006, 02:50 PM

I believe the processsor that is in the 2000's is different than the one's in the 2001+, that is why they can't be read yet.

Every ROM with a different identifier is coded differently. I have 13 different roms right now and only two are able to share the same defintion. In some cases the maps and axis values are in a completely different area and in other cases they are about the same place.

Doesn't matter what processor you view it with using the disassembler. Unless it is the one for the Hitachi SH series than it is going to be wrong. I found a freeware SH disassembler, but it is DOS based and I'm really not sure how to use it. It will come up in a search if you look for it.

LogicGate · 06/30/2006, 03:11 PM

That means we really need to get the SDK and get as many roms as possible. Maybe there is a trend in the definitions where they serialized the definition by the time they where manufactured. Like a Matrix code. I'll be watching the thread while I start diggin into this. Maybe I can find a copy of this IDA Pro Advanced.

LogicGate · 06/30/2006, 03:24 PM

I would have never believed it unless I saw it my self. The processor is the same as the sega saturn's PROCESSOR???? I mean the SH Disassembler was made for the Sega Saturn's processor. I'll just go for the IDA Pro Advanced. If I get to frustrated I'll just buy it....yeeeaah right!

FlashBlueRS · 06/30/2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicGate

I would have never believed it unless I saw it my self. The processor is the same as the sega saturn's PROCESSOR???? I mean the SH Disassembler was made for the Sega Saturn's processor. I'll just go for the IDA Pro Advanced. If I get to frustrated I'll just buy it....yeeeaah right!

Yeah, I saw that Sega Saturn stuff too.

jaytech · 07/04/2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicGate

I would have never believed it unless I saw it my self. The processor is the same as the sega saturn's PROCESSOR???? I mean the SH Disassembler was made for the Sega Saturn's processor. I'll just go for the IDA Pro Advanced. If I get to frustrated I'll just buy it....yeeeaah right!

Yes you are correct.

FED SPEC Processor: H8/539
2001-2005 GT/GS/RS Manual Processor: SH7052
2001-2005 GT/GS/RS Auto Processor: SH7055 variant

IDA Pro will be able to decompile both of them. I have IDA Pro, HEW, Hitachi C-compiler and emulators and debuggers for these processors.

Jason
Mitsubishi ECU Specialist

LogicGate · 07/04/2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jaytech

Yes you are correct.

FED SPEC Processor: H8/539
2001-2005 GT/GS/RS Manual Processor: SH7052
2001-2005 GT/GS/RS Auto Processor: SH7055 variant

IDA Pro will be able to decompile both of them. I have IDA Pro, HEW, Hitachi C-compiler and emulators and debuggers for these processors.

Jason
Mitsubishi ECU Specialist

Who do I need to kill to get a copy?

ShaneM · 07/05/2006, 01:22 AM

I've switched to the AEM EMS. I have my Flash Cable for sale. PM me if anybody is interested.

goosey2099 · 07/05/2006, 03:06 AM

Jason, I'm about to desolder the ecu connector of my 2001 auto computer and i don't need the rest of it. Do you want it?

TheFranchise · 07/05/2006, 07:19 PM

Jason

any update on the 2000 Processors?

also would you know if there is any different wiring setups from 2000 to 2001+ ECUs? I'm trying to determine if swapping ecus would be easier for me to get the car tuned up.

Tearstone · 07/05/2006, 08:11 PM

Donny managed to get his 2001 Galant ES 4G64 tuned up with this, it's so awesome and look forward to the progression of what else can be done with the software such as eliminating EGR and emission checks from happening

LogicGate · 07/05/2006, 08:43 PM

If we can get our hands on a disassembler like IDA Pro Advanced many will jump and aid in braking down the codes. There is a universe of a difference in looking at the Hex and looking at the actual assembly/C code and working with it.

Flash Blue Rs has done and been awesome helping out and I am certain that this is just a mare scratch of what really we will be able to accomplish. If you have a cable I would suggest not to sell, because this will grow. For all the geeks that belong to the 3G clubs this is caviar

.

TheFranchise · 07/05/2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicGate

If we can get our hands on a disassembler like IDA Pro Advanced...

give me an hour...

TheFranchise · 07/06/2006, 11:23 AM

pm sent!

Clipse3GT · 07/06/2006, 12:25 PM

I have a 2000 GT ECU from a Cali Spec... dunno if anyone has a need for it...

Special_K · 07/06/2006, 02:21 PM

I just sent a email over to Turbo Concepts to see if they would be able to perform the reflash. They did an awesome job tuning and setting up Kris' (Clipse3GT) Haltech on his 3+ SDS.

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toogood11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Ohio State University Posts: 1,432	i may not understand, but those fuel maps arent drastically different than stock. __________________ just another n00b watching n00bs even MORE DUMB than myself blowing their shit up one start up at a time. Last edited by toogood11; 06/26/2006 at 07:39 PM.

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TheFranchise Boosted Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Earth Vehicle: 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse Posts: 2,692	Jason any update on the 2000 Processors? also would you know if there is any different wiring setups from 2000 to 2001+ ECUs? I'm trying to determine if swapping ecus would be easier for me to get the car tuned up. __________________ TheFranchise 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT 2007 Nissan 350Z Grand Touring 1991 Nissan Sentra SE-R 3G Boosted Since Jan 2003, Beating on the 3G since 2000. ALL NEW 2007 CLUB3G SCREENSAVER

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Tearstone Tango Sucka! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 02 EclipseGT 91 MR2 Turbo Posts: 16,276	Donny managed to get his 2001 Galant ES 4G64 tuned up with this, it's so awesome and look forward to the progression of what else can be done with the software such as eliminating EGR and emission checks from happening __________________ Russ Sanderlin - Twitter - Facebook - Blog Mitsubishi Eclipse - Generation Gap Eclipse Tech - New 5G Eclipse - 2006+ Eclipse Forums - Mitsubishi Mid Atlantic - Mitsubishi Florida

06/27/2006, 11:41 AM	#609 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	Would be nice to get the bin or hex code from anyone that did the tune for a GT 2001 with CAI.

06/27/2006, 05:40 PM	#611 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	I just wanted to let everyone that has posted a ROM know that I will try to write the definitions within the next few days. I have about 7 ROMs to go through. I have been staying pretty busy with my car lately. This DOHC swap is bad ass.

06/27/2006, 06:04 PM	#612 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	I know its out of topic but wish I would have gotten the GS version. More options. I don't know if we can do the DOHC swap for our engines with parts from the 3000gt. I wounder how much difference it would make.

06/27/2006, 09:14 PM	#615 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	I'm going to do my best with all of them. At the very least, they will have injector scaling, rev limit, speed limit, immobilizer and fuel and timing maps. That would be more than enough to get everyone started. If anyone hasn't done so already, post up your ROM or send me an email.

06/27/2006, 10:10 PM	#616 (permalink)
gtbrian 3g defector Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: glen burnie md Vehicle: 07 outlander Posts: 1,463	ok i am not upto speed with all the jargen, but would someone with the usual naturally aspirated gt. using the average i/h/e setup, would they see gains by only adjusting the fuel and timing maps. or even simpler just the loop that is wot.

06/27/2006, 10:11 PM	#617 (permalink)
Xrs2 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, PA Vehicle: 2002 Galant GTZ Posts: 163	Yeah you should see the same gains you would get from tuning with a safcII. Maybe better if they do it right.

06/27/2006, 10:31 PM	#618 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	You would get much better gains with the ECUFlash. First, an AFC tricks the ecu into doing what you want it to do. This requires constant retuning if not done perfectly. Programming the ECU to do what you want it to do is much more efficient and reliable. Also, you can't adjust timing with an AFC. The timing maps are very conservative and have alot of room for improvement. Plus, the ECUFlash is half the price of an AFC with so much more to offer. Just being able to change the immobilzer code of a new ECU instead of going to a dealer makes it worth the price.

06/28/2006, 02:34 AM	#620 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	Hook the cable up to your current ECU and read the immobilizer code. Put in the new ECU and change the immobilizer code. Doesn't get any easier than that.

06/28/2006, 08:28 AM	#623 (permalink)
slwdwn3g Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: greensboro north carolina Vehicle: 02 eclipse gt premium Posts: 686	my 2002 gt auto rom is posted up on an earlier post on this thread

06/28/2006, 07:56 PM	#627 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	Keep the ROMs coming. I'm going to try to make an updated rommetadata folder available for download later on tonight. I'll also post all of the ROMS I have collected.

06/29/2006, 03:19 PM	#628 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	Here are the definitions for everyone that has sent me a ROM, including the Galant and the two ROMS on the Mynes download page that didn't work. Right-Click, Save as rommetadata.zip If you have a 2001 GS Automatic, get in touch with me. Something was wrong with the hex file. If anyone has a ROM that doesn't work after adding these definitions to the rommetadata folder, send it to me. Also, if any FI guys need some other parameters, let me know and I'll get it working for you. It would take me a very long time to do that for every ROM when most people won't need, or know how to use, more than what I have already made available.

06/29/2006, 03:27 PM	#629 (permalink)
DJ_21 Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 73	That probably was me. I have a 2001 GS AT. I also have a turbo in my car. Do you want me to send you the ROM again?

06/29/2006, 03:33 PM	#630 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	If you could, go read the ECU again and send that one to me.

06/29/2006, 04:10 PM	#631 (permalink)
DJ_21 Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 73	I went to the car and read the ECU again and sent it to your email under rollngstne@yahoo.com. Sorry about that.

06/29/2006, 05:45 PM	#632 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	I don't know which one is for an AT or for an MT.

06/29/2006, 06:57 PM	#635 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	Were you able to look at your ROM before?

06/29/2006, 07:23 PM	#637 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	Your ROM from your ECU could not be opened using any of the xml files that came with the software. Your ROM's identifier is 86720008 and I had to make the xml file for it. Because I had to make it, many parameters are not disabled. It's the opposite, a few parameters are now enabled.

06/29/2006, 07:34 PM	#638 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	I apologize Yours have all the data organized. Just these settings are not showing

06/29/2006, 08:00 PM	#639 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	It would take some time to find those. If you change your user level to advanced or developer, you would see that there are 59 parameters that are not available. For anyone that hasn't actually seen the hex code, I found a way to convert the ROM to a text document so I could show you exactly what you are dealing with when trying to find parameters and create the xml file. ROM Text That is 16,384 lines of hexidecimal code that needs to be sifted through in order to find the parameters.

06/29/2006, 10:23 PM	#641 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	Are you using the hex patterns from the evos or other roms that are fully defined? If so I am sure I can help decode it.

06/30/2006, 02:06 PM	#644 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	I'll begin tracking the SDK for the processor. Let me know the answer to the questions I asked above about the processor.

06/30/2006, 02:23 PM	#645 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	I was thinking about ordering it until I saw the advanced price Price: Advanced:$875

06/30/2006, 02:50 PM	#646 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,877	I believe the processsor that is in the 2000's is different than the one's in the 2001+, that is why they can't be read yet. Every ROM with a different identifier is coded differently. I have 13 different roms right now and only two are able to share the same defintion. In some cases the maps and axis values are in a completely different area and in other cases they are about the same place. Doesn't matter what processor you view it with using the disassembler. Unless it is the one for the Hitachi SH series than it is going to be wrong. I found a freeware SH disassembler, but it is DOS based and I'm really not sure how to use it. It will come up in a search if you look for it.

06/30/2006, 03:11 PM	#647 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	That means we really need to get the SDK and get as many roms as possible. Maybe there is a trend in the definitions where they serialized the definition by the time they where manufactured. Like a Matrix code. I'll be watching the thread while I start diggin into this. Maybe I can find a copy of this IDA Pro Advanced.

06/30/2006, 03:24 PM	#648 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	I would have never believed it unless I saw it my self. The processor is the same as the sega saturn's PROCESSOR???? I mean the SH Disassembler was made for the Sega Saturn's processor. I'll just go for the IDA Pro Advanced. If I get to frustrated I'll just buy it....yeeeaah right!

07/05/2006, 01:22 AM	#652 (permalink)
ShaneM One Sic Mic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Vehicle: F-150 Supercrew 4x4 Posts: 3,435	I've switched to the AEM EMS. I have my Flash Cable for sale. PM me if anybody is interested.

07/05/2006, 08:43 PM	#656 (permalink)
LogicGate Just Married 05-15 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Spyder Posts: 1,753	If we can get our hands on a disassembler like IDA Pro Advanced many will jump and aid in braking down the codes. There is a universe of a difference in looking at the Hex and looking at the actual assembly/C code and working with it. Flash Blue Rs has done and been awesome helping out and I am certain that this is just a mare scratch of what really we will be able to accomplish. If you have a cable I would suggest not to sell, because this will grow. For all the geeks that belong to the 3G clubs this is caviar .

07/06/2006, 11:23 AM	#658 (permalink)
TheFranchise Boosted Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Earth Vehicle: 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse Posts: 2,692	pm sent! __________________ TheFranchise 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT 2007 Nissan 350Z Grand Touring 1991 Nissan Sentra SE-R 3G Boosted Since Jan 2003, Beating on the 3G since 2000. ALL NEW 2007 CLUB3G SCREENSAVER

07/06/2006, 12:25 PM	#659 (permalink)
Clipse3GT Ah yes... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Vehicle: 00 GT RIPP STG.3 & EVO X Posts: 10,866	I have a 2000 GT ECU from a Cali Spec... dunno if anyone has a need for it...

07/06/2006, 02:21 PM	#660 (permalink)
Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 14,224	I just sent a email over to Turbo Concepts to see if they would be able to perform the reflash. They did an awesome job tuning and setting up Kris' (Clipse3GT) Haltech on his 3+ SDS. __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*