Performance ECU Flash for Eclipse GT/GTS/GS!!!!! - Page 2

jaytech · 02/08/2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootie714

Wait so your saying that you dont think any real gains can be accomplished on a n/a motor with this reflash? What about the Eclipse GT you guys did the reflash on that supposedly gained 8hp and 17tq and the the 4 cylinder you reflashed that makes an additional 5hp and 7trq on the dyno, are you saying those arent real power gains or are those guys running some crazy setup beyond intake exhaust and maybe headers?

Those are good gains, but for turbo gains can be more. We will be doing mail-in flashes very soon. The user one will be later this summer early fall.

icemanrld19 · 02/08/2006, 05:36 PM

not sure how u can tune the ecu if u dont have the car in front of u and tuned on the dyno.

blackgt00 · 02/08/2006, 06:24 PM

thats what am saying, i mean obiously you guys made some sort of gain to a n/a motor.

jaytech · 02/08/2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by icemanrld19

not sure how u can tune the ecu if u dont have the car in front of u and tuned on the dyno.

You can have base maps, just like Cobb Tuning. Until the software is perfect with a user GUI interface to edit maps, then I would feel comfortable releasing a user-tuner version. I've tuned plenty of Subaru and Mitsubishi mail-in flash for these cars, with no complaints.

Also we may have a tuner come to your town and do a group dyno day tuning in your city as well.

McLarenross · 02/08/2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jaytech

Also we may have a tuner come to your town and do a group dyno day tuning in your city as well.

That would be sweet. Send one to Houston man I wanna do it.

icemanrld19 · 02/08/2006, 07:01 PM

well im not completly feeling having "base maps" and running that on my turbocharged engine. ive learned the hard way that a tune doesnt work for every engine. maybe im still not understanding this still. im looking for something so i can eliminate my emanagement. how can u sell a base maps that will work for all set-ups or is what your trying to say is that u can perform a base map on the ecu so a piggyback system will still have to be used but ur hoping in the future to eliminate the piggyback system all together?

McLarenross · 02/08/2006, 07:07 PM

What it is, instead of having the E-manage adjust the signals from the ECU, your adjusting the signals straight at the ECU. Same end, different means. By base tune he means a tune that will run the car stock then you modify the setting liek timing and injector pulse and size to work correctly with the boost. You still have to go to a Dyno and have it tuned just liek a piggy back but you just dont have the piggyback unit itself.

jaytech · 02/08/2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by McLarenross

What it is, instead of having the E-manage adjust the signals from the ECU, your adjusting the signals straight at the ECU. Same end, different means. By base tune he means a tune that will run the car stock then you modify the setting liek timing and injector pulse and size to work correctly with the boost. You still have to go to a Dyno and have it tuned just liek a piggy back but you just dont have the piggyback unit itself.

Correct! You will need a custom tune,by means of a tuner coming to tune your car on the dyno. But the base maps are more towards the N/A cars.

callmeebryan · 02/08/2006, 08:46 PM

And also, a piggy back can only go so far.... Modifying the settings in the ECU is much better and gives you a hell of a lot more breathing room.

sroufe7 · 02/08/2006, 09:01 PM

Thats awesome for you 3G guys.

I wish someone would do this for us 95-00 Avenger/Sebring guys.

impulseballer · 02/08/2006, 09:45 PM

GET A GUY TO NY PLEASSSEEEEE!!!!

Neeko · 02/09/2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by impulseballer

GET A GUY TO NY PLEASSSEEEEE!!!!

I second that i'm running ripps grey box and it leaves something to be desired...
i would vote for a user tunable so that way we can go to the dyno ourselves and get it tuned.
A base map would not due me on a stage 2 SDS with an Upgraded TB long tube headers HFC and a greddy cat back.. And what happens when i build the motor? have to get it reflashed...

Disclaimer: You Mod it, You Tune it, You Blow it up, Your Problem...

InSpite · 02/09/2006, 02:40 PM

My appointment is this Saturday at 3:00. We are going to do before and after pulls, with nitrous and without nitrous. I may have an SAFC-II for sale real soon. I'll post the dyno sheets.

Burn504 · 02/09/2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sroufe7

Thats awesome for you 3G guys.

I wish someone would do this for us 95-00 Avenger/Sebring guys.

but it might give us a reason to actually do the 5spd swap and ecu...

simeone33 · 02/09/2006, 09:29 PM

yes... new york please.... this would completely replace the black box?

i want this... now.... haha

mozart4898 · 02/10/2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by InSpite

My appointment is this Saturday at 3:00. We are going to do before and after pulls, with nitrous and without nitrous. I may have an SAFC-II for sale real soon. I'll post the dyno sheets.

Wouldn't you still sorta be better off keeping the SAFC-II though for using the nitrous? I'd think it'd be a good idea to use it so you could richen up the mix when you're gonna run nitrous - use the 1st data file zeroed out for ordinary driving, and then switch to the 2nd one when you're spraying to give it a bit more fuel.

InSpite · 02/10/2006, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mozart4898

Wouldn't you still sorta be better off keeping the SAFC-II though for using the nitrous? I'd think it'd be a good idea to use it so you could richen up the mix when you're gonna run nitrous - use the 1st data file zeroed out for ordinary driving, and then switch to the 2nd one when you're spraying to give it a bit more fuel.

I thought the same thing. I told max that I had an safc, and that I was planning on keeping it because of the nitrous. Max said that he had an idea, and the safc may be unnecessary.

mozart4898 · 02/10/2006, 01:23 AM

Interesting...that almost has to mean there's some way the ECU can be flashed that it would even know to richen up the mix when you're spraying, cause I have to think that one of the things they'd do to give you more power with a reflash is lean out the map for WOT...and I don't think you'd want to be running 13.7:1 with nitrous.

TheFranchise · 02/10/2006, 03:36 AM

this will be the single greatest mod EV3R released for the 3g.

mozart4898 · 02/10/2006, 03:43 AM

Considering that I'm not gonna be able to spend a whole ton of money this summer on my car (unless the money falls in my lap...or I pick up a 2nd full time job), I may be working towards getting this flash this summer instead of the RPW intake manifold. Course, this is like 1/4 the cost of that so maybe both would still be possible...

04MOJOGT · 02/10/2006, 08:09 AM

THis is a great mod indeed. I had soemthing liek this on my last car and i wished they had one for this one. But my question is this.... On a N/A car lets say that i we only have intake/exhaust but plan on getting other mods And if someone was to buy this Reprogram with only exhaust and intake when you get other mods.... Like Cams etc... would this ECU have to be reprogrammed each time? Or is it a one time reprogram?

Tearstone · 02/10/2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 04MOJOGT

THis is a great mod indeed. I had soemthing liek this on my last car and i wished they had one for this one. But my question is this.... On a N/A car lets say that i we only have intake/exhaust but plan on getting other mods And if someone was to buy this Reprogram with only exhaust and intake when you get other mods.... Like Cams etc... would this ECU have to be reprogrammed each time? Or is it a one time reprogram?

Just like everything else, anytime you make a change to your car you have to get it retuned. I am slightly interested in sending my unit in to get reflashed, but I am definitely interested in the DIY product when(if) it is released at the end of this year.

ARACHNO · 02/10/2006, 10:40 AM

how much would something like this cost? also...if I was to do headers, would I still need a s-afc II to keep my car from running too rich and to have it tuned or would this ecu take care of it?

Tearstone · 02/10/2006, 12:39 PM

Alright everyone, I just got off the phone with them and there is a few notes I need to let you guys know.

At this time, they are not 100% ready to begin flashing ECUs so please do your best to withdraw emailing them asking if you can ship yours to them or not.

Currently, they have only been tuning stock to mildly modified 3Gs and do not have anything available yet for higher horsepower tunes. Hopefully I will be meeting the lead programmer on the project here in Orlando in a few weeks and we will begin working on some things then to hopefully help move this project along a lot quicker.

The software & cable definitely will not be ready anytime soon as they are currently working on perfecting their programming.

If you have any questions that have not been asked, please post them here so I can gather them up and contact them for everyone. We are on the brink of something truely awesome here... so lets try not to chase these guys away LOL

Let me know if there is anything else I can do.

gst4g64 · 02/10/2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tearstone

Alright everyone, I just got off the phone with them and there is a few notes I need to let you guys know.

At this time, they are not 100% ready to begin flashing ECUs so please do your best to withdraw emailing them asking if you can ship yours to them or not.

Currently, they have only been tuning stock to mildly modified 3Gs and do not have anything available yet for higher horsepower tunes. Hopefully I will be meeting the lead programmer on the project here in Orlando in a few weeks and we will begin working on some things then to hopefully help move this project along a lot quicker.

The software & cable definitely will not be ready anytime soon as they are currently working on perfecting their programming.

If you have any questions that have not been asked, please post them here so I can gather them up and contact them for everyone. We are on the brink of something truely awesome here... so lets try not to chase these guys away LOL

Let me know if there is anything else I can do.

Thats awesome Russ

Keep us informed.

ARACHNO · 02/10/2006, 12:52 PM

Russ, that's awesome. Again, you have come through for us. You are THE 3g God.

McLarenross · 02/10/2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ARACHNO

You are THE 3g God.

04MOJOGT · 02/10/2006, 01:46 PM

Yep i agree you are the 3g God. You better nto EVA not have a 3g!!! LOL

ARACHNO · 02/10/2006, 01:48 PM

brandy, your a noob. learn how to type correctly.

Chief Brody · 02/10/2006, 04:33 PM

Thanks for being such a good ambassador, Russ.

Tearstone · 02/10/2006, 06:43 PM

I appreciate the sentiments guys, but I just want to move things along for this platform

04MOJOGT · 02/10/2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ARACHNO

brandy, your a noob. learn how to type correctly.

YOu know what you can Do KEVIN!!??

PharmEcis · 02/10/2006, 07:48 PM

ahem dsmlink open source.. ability to mod.. platform already there.. just change the variables and walla... 3GLink is born and in our hands faster.

dsmlink source files

quote from dsmlink.com:

The laptop portion of DSMLink is open source. That is, we provide all the source code necessary to build or modify the laptop portion of DSMLink on your own. You can also review the code to find bugs, add features, or to develop a completely separate client version of DSMLink if you wish.

Korey · 02/10/2006, 08:18 PM

Do you think they will ever be able to change how the automatic sporty trans shifts so damn slow?

buckethead · 02/10/2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nokio

Do you think they will ever be able to change how the automatic sporty trans shifts so damn slow?

Level10 says they fix that with a valve body job. They quoted me $4400 for the full job, shipping, and torque converter.

callmeebryan · 02/11/2006, 09:51 AM

4400$!??!? Geez....my built tranny costed me around 2400$. I got new valve body, LSD, all new performance cyro treated clutches, translab shift kit ,new shift bands, new solenoids, all new gaskets and bearings and bushings, and an "ATX Boost Controller" (allows me to select how hard the car shifts;4 diff settings).

I cant imagine the 4cyl tranmission costing more to build up....

check out http://www.importperformancetrans.co...ishiauto.shtml. They do great work

untbballer21 · 02/11/2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by callmeebryan

4400$!??!? Geez....my built tranny costed me around 2400$. I got new valve body, LSD, all new performance cyro treated clutches, translab shift kit ,new shift bands, new solenoids, all new gaskets and bearings and bushings, and an "ATX Boost Controller" (allows me to select how hard the car shifts;4 diff settings).

I cant imagine the 4cyl tranmission costing more to build up....

check out www.itptrans.com. They do great work

link does not work

callmeebryan · 02/11/2006, 10:44 AM

check again

buckethead · 02/11/2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by callmeebryan

4400$!??!? Geez....my built tranny costed me around 2400$. I got new valve body, LSD, all new performance cyro treated clutches, translab shift kit ,new shift bands, new solenoids, all new gaskets and bearings and bushings, and an "ATX Boost Controller" (allows me to select how hard the car shifts;4 diff settings).

I cant imagine the 4cyl tranmission costing more to build up....

check out http://www.importperformancetrans.co...ishiauto.shtml. They do great work

Nice. I'll definatly use them for that price.

untbballer21 · 02/11/2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by callmeebryan

4400$!??!? Geez....my built tranny costed me around 2400$. I got new valve body, LSD, all new performance cyro treated clutches, translab shift kit ,new shift bands, new solenoids, all new gaskets and bearings and bushings, and an "ATX Boost Controller" (allows me to select how hard the car shifts;4 diff settings).

I cant imagine the 4cyl tranmission costing more to build up....

check out http://www.importperformancetrans.co...ishiauto.shtml. They do great work

Are you running boost on your car?

icemanrld19 · 02/11/2006, 04:15 PM

hes ripped

callmeebryan · 02/11/2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by untbballer21

Are you running boost on your car?

Yes i am, soon i will be running 20psi either with a V-1 S-Trim or a V-2 SQ trim.... still trying to find a good deal on one.

On the verge for alteast 500whp

, and my trans is garenteed to hold 800

darklink · 02/11/2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nokio

Do you think they will ever be able to change how the automatic sporty trans shifts so damn slow?

slightly i would think. the shifting is controlled by pressure sensors or some shit like that, you could alter how they fire. also i think replacing the actual solenoids would help in conjunction with that.
Manybrews had a post about how a simple valve body job will not do it alone.

InSpite · 02/12/2006, 03:13 PM

I'll post the dynos later, but here is the results from my reflash.

I have a 2001 gt manual with 89,000 miles. Short ram intake, AMSS downpipe with high flow cat, and magnaflow exhaust. I set the SAFC-II to 0 correction for the before HP and TQ numbers.

Before: 171.9 HP at 6,000 rpm
171.5 TQ at 4500 rpm

After: 180.9 @ 5750 rpm
180.9 @ 4500 rpm

Jay advanced the timing slightly and removed the rev limiter. The horsepower does not fall off, even at 6000 rpm.

I have kept the safc for nitrous. We did a few pulls to make sure it would be safe. I got 213.5 HP at 5250 rpm and 243.7 TQ at 3750 rpm. I have a NX wet kit with the 50hp jet in. My bottle pressure was a just touching the green, so it was a little low.

It was a mustang dyno, and it was about 70 degrees.

My impression is that nobody in AZ should get an SAFC. This takes the place of it. It is also nice not to have to worry about hitting fuel cutoff while spraying. A slight overrev is bad, but not as bad as hitting fuel cutoff.

What do you all thing about my hp numbers?

MitsuGTRacing · 02/12/2006, 03:32 PM

I thought our vehicles were only drag limited for speed. I've hit 150 in my GT 5spd...

icemanrld19 · 02/12/2006, 03:34 PM

damn nice improvement. so everything runs perfect without the safc with and without nitrous? congrates man

Crow · 02/12/2006, 03:39 PM

are you gonna scan in the dyno graphs from the runs? i would like to see hte afr values on the runs. anyone want to chip in money so i can haul my car out there and see what they can really do?

MitsuGTRacing · 02/12/2006, 03:43 PM

Jeez, id love to get over 210 to the wheels.

icemanrld19 · 02/12/2006, 03:50 PM

crow ill chip in $25. Cheap insurance for me.

Crow · 02/12/2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by icemanrld19

crow ill chip in $25. Cheap insurance for me.

what happened to the $40 you said you would give me on aim?

InSpite · 02/12/2006, 04:04 PM

Here is the before/after dyno graph. The air fuel ratio is 13.5 to 13.8. There is a small spot around 4,000 rpm where it dips into the 12's. Jay worked a while to get this dip out, but I don't think he got all of it.
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Crow · 02/12/2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by InSpite

Here is the before/after dyno graph. The air fuel ratio is 13.5 to 13.8. There is a small spot around 4,000 rpm where it dips into the 12's. Jay worked a while to get this dip out, but I don't think he got all of it.

do you have hte afr graph?

InSpite · 02/12/2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MitsuGTRacing

I thought our vehicles were only drag limited for speed. I've hit 150 in my GT 5spd...

There actually is a speed limiter, but you would hit the fuel cutoff in last gear before you will hit the speed limiter. Jay removed my speed limiter just for the hell of it. My fuel cut off is at about 6800 rpm. If you can rev past 6200 rpm, then your tach needle is off. Stock fuel cut off is at 6200 rpm.

InSpite · 02/12/2006, 04:25 PM

Here is the nitrous dyno pull compared to the tuned dyno pull.
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tracer bullet · 02/12/2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by InSpite

Before: 171.9 HP at 6,000 rpm
171.5 TQ at 4500 rpm

After: 180.9 @ 5750 rpm
180.9 @ 4500 rpm

What do you all thing about my hp numbers?

I think:

I suppose that should about cover it. This is cool as hell.

Majend · 02/12/2006, 10:04 PM

six months ago if someone would have asked me if i would be on the leading edge of a development such as this i would have never believed it. i really hope that this turns into as big a thing as everyone wants it to be cuz i think it is. i just wanted to say it is an honor

Phat3g · 02/12/2006, 10:31 PM

i cant wait for themt o get my car all done damn fed specs

untbballer21 · 02/12/2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Majend

six months ago if someone would have asked me if i would be on the leading edge of a development such as this i would have never believed it. i really hope that this turns into as big a thing as everyone wants it to be cuz i think it is. i just wanted to say it is an honor

Hey thanks a bunch.

mozart4898 · 02/12/2006, 11:57 PM

I think the HP numbers we're seeing are even more impressive if you also take into consideration that we're talking a Mustang dyno - with short ram, downpipe, and exhaust, his 180 whp after the reflash probably = 200-205 whp on a Dynojet, which are the more common numbers. I think with this reflash, once there's some more experience in exactly how to tweak our ECU, is going to result in 210-220 whp dynos on Dynojets for those with just shorty headers.

What I'd like to see is someone with HyTechs (and no SDS) get the reflash. I'm predicting by the end of the summer, we may just be seeing a real 250 whp N/A 3G GT.

repforenzo · 02/13/2006, 02:41 AM

I hope this developes quickly.

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McLarenross Devil Dog to be.. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Shepherd, Texas, USA!!!! (North of Houston a bit) Vehicle: 04 Cummins 4x4 Posts: 3,935	What it is, instead of having the E-manage adjust the signals from the ECU, your adjusting the signals straight at the ECU. Same end, different means. By base tune he means a tune that will run the car stock then you modify the setting liek timing and injector pulse and size to work correctly with the boost. You still have to go to a Dyno and have it tuned just liek a piggy back but you just dont have the piggyback unit itself. __________________ Gig'em Aggies!!! My Spyder Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. Soon to be a MARINE! Hoorah!

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TheFranchise Boosted Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Earth Vehicle: 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse Posts: 2,692	this will be the single greatest mod EV3R released for the 3g. __________________ TheFranchise 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT 2007 Nissan 350Z Grand Touring 1991 Nissan Sentra SE-R 3G Boosted Since Jan 2003, Beating on the 3G since 2000. ALL NEW 2007 CLUB3G SCREENSAVER

02/10/2006, 08:09 AM	#81 (permalink)
04MOJOGT Anastacia HOE!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Charlotte NC Vehicle: 04 3g GT/ 03 SpecV Posts: 4,007	THis is a great mod indeed. I had soemthing liek this on my last car and i wished they had one for this one. But my question is this.... On a N/A car lets say that i we only have intake/exhaust but plan on getting other mods And if someone was to buy this Reprogram with only exhaust and intake when you get other mods.... Like Cams etc... would this ECU have to be reprogrammed each time? Or is it a one time reprogram? __________________ Sold 10/11/08

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Tearstone Tango Sucka! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 02 EclipseGT 91 MR2 Turbo Posts: 16,280	Alright everyone, I just got off the phone with them and there is a few notes I need to let you guys know. At this time, they are not 100% ready to begin flashing ECUs so please do your best to withdraw emailing them asking if you can ship yours to them or not. Currently, they have only been tuning stock to mildly modified 3Gs and do not have anything available yet for higher horsepower tunes. Hopefully I will be meeting the lead programmer on the project here in Orlando in a few weeks and we will begin working on some things then to hopefully help move this project along a lot quicker. The software & cable definitely will not be ready anytime soon as they are currently working on perfecting their programming. If you have any questions that have not been asked, please post them here so I can gather them up and contact them for everyone. We are on the brink of something truely awesome here... so lets try not to chase these guys away LOL Let me know if there is anything else I can do. __________________ Russ Sanderlin - Twitter - Facebook - Blog Mitsubishi Eclipse - Generation Gap Eclipse Tech - New 5G Eclipse - 2006+ Eclipse Forums - Mitsubishi Mid Atlantic - Mitsubishi Florida

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04MOJOGT Anastacia HOE!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Charlotte NC Vehicle: 04 3g GT/ 03 SpecV Posts: 4,007	Yep i agree you are the 3g God. You better nto EVA not have a 3g!!! LOL __________________ Sold 10/11/08

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icemanrld19 stupid booster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: claysburg, camden, martinsburg, bridgeport, addison/dallas. Vehicle: Single snailed spyder Posts: 7,065	not sure how u can tune the ecu if u dont have the car in front of u and tuned on the dyno.

02/08/2006, 06:24 PM	#63 (permalink)
blackgt00 Hating the 3G !!! Join Date: Oct 2004 Vehicle: 05' 350Z Posts: 755	thats what am saying, i mean obiously you guys made some sort of gain to a n/a motor.

02/08/2006, 07:01 PM	#66 (permalink)
icemanrld19 stupid booster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: claysburg, camden, martinsburg, bridgeport, addison/dallas. Vehicle: Single snailed spyder Posts: 7,065	well im not completly feeling having "base maps" and running that on my turbocharged engine. ive learned the hard way that a tune doesnt work for every engine. maybe im still not understanding this still. im looking for something so i can eliminate my emanagement. how can u sell a base maps that will work for all set-ups or is what your trying to say is that u can perform a base map on the ecu so a piggyback system will still have to be used but ur hoping in the future to eliminate the piggyback system all together?

02/08/2006, 08:46 PM	#69 (permalink)
callmeebryan Turbo Buick > you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jersey Shore Vehicle: 1984 Buick Regal T-type Posts: 1,336	And also, a piggy back can only go so far.... Modifying the settings in the ECU is much better and gives you a hell of a lot more breathing room.

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sroufe7 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Dakota Vehicle: J Car Posts: 356	Thats awesome for you 3G guys. I wish someone would do this for us 95-00 Avenger/Sebring guys.

02/08/2006, 09:45 PM	#71 (permalink)
impulseballer Manual fo Life Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NY Posts: 143	GET A GUY TO NY PLEASSSEEEEE!!!!

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InSpite Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 152	My appointment is this Saturday at 3:00. We are going to do before and after pulls, with nitrous and without nitrous. I may have an SAFC-II for sale real soon. I'll post the dyno sheets.

02/09/2006, 09:29 PM	#75 (permalink)
simeone33 frozen Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York for now... Vehicle: 00gt sds Posts: 671	yes... new york please.... this would completely replace the black box? i want this... now.... haha

02/10/2006, 01:23 AM	#78 (permalink)
mozart4898 back to the 3G... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Woodville, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse Spyder GT Posts: 1,654	Interesting...that almost has to mean there's some way the ECU can be flashed that it would even know to richen up the mix when you're spraying, cause I have to think that one of the things they'd do to give you more power with a reflash is lean out the map for WOT...and I don't think you'd want to be running 13.7:1 with nitrous.

02/10/2006, 03:43 AM	#80 (permalink)
mozart4898 back to the 3G... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Woodville, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse Spyder GT Posts: 1,654	Considering that I'm not gonna be able to spend a whole ton of money this summer on my car (unless the money falls in my lap...or I pick up a 2nd full time job), I may be working towards getting this flash this summer instead of the RPW intake manifold. Course, this is like 1/4 the cost of that so maybe both would still be possible...

02/10/2006, 10:40 AM	#83 (permalink)
ARACHNO SPYDEY MF! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Vehicle: 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 GT Posts: 5,225	how much would something like this cost? also...if I was to do headers, would I still need a s-afc II to keep my car from running too rich and to have it tuned or would this ecu take care of it?

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ARACHNO SPYDEY MF! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Vehicle: 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 GT Posts: 5,225	Russ, that's awesome. Again, you have come through for us. You are THE 3g God.

02/10/2006, 01:48 PM	#89 (permalink)
ARACHNO SPYDEY MF! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Vehicle: 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 GT Posts: 5,225	brandy, your a noob. learn how to type correctly.

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Chief Brody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin Vehicle: 2000 GST 5spd Posts: 1,429	Thanks for being such a good ambassador, Russ. __________________ Turbonetics DSM manifold Turbonetics T3/T4 AAI intercooler & charge piping Greddy Emanage Blue 440cc injectors Pocketlogger and PLX wideband Tsudo 2.5" Catback Hook'em Horns!

02/10/2006, 06:43 PM	#91 (permalink)
Tearstone Tango Sucka! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 02 EclipseGT 91 MR2 Turbo Posts: 16,280	I appreciate the sentiments guys, but I just want to move things along for this platform __________________ Russ Sanderlin - Twitter - Facebook - Blog Mitsubishi Eclipse - Generation Gap Eclipse Tech - New 5G Eclipse - 2006+ Eclipse Forums - Mitsubishi Mid Atlantic - Mitsubishi Florida

02/10/2006, 07:48 PM	#93 (permalink)
PharmEcis Resident Asshole Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Vehicle: 2g stratus 2g eclipse Posts: 4,701	ahem dsmlink open source.. ability to mod.. platform already there.. just change the variables and walla... 3GLink is born and in our hands faster. dsmlink source files quote from dsmlink.com: The laptop portion of DSMLink is open source. That is, we provide all the source code necessary to build or modify the laptop portion of DSMLink on your own. You can also review the code to find bugs, add features, or to develop a completely separate client version of DSMLink if you wish. __________________ 01 Stratus R/T Turbo www.2gstratus.org www.ucsperformance.com 240.271.0280 2007 NASA TTR National Champions! 2008 Redline Time Attack Summit Point Unlimited FWD 3rd Place! FIRST PNP AEM EMS! FIRST 3.8L 6G75 MIVEC SWAP IN THE WORLD! I sell custom turbo kits for the 3G. If you are serious about a turbo kit, call the number above. Last edited by PharmEcis; 02/10/2006 at 07:53 PM.

02/10/2006, 08:18 PM	#94 (permalink)
Korey Formerly Nokio Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Merrillville, IN Vehicle: Kia Sorento Posts: 3,598	Do you think they will ever be able to change how the automatic sporty trans shifts so damn slow? __________________ -Korey

02/11/2006, 09:51 AM	#96 (permalink)
callmeebryan Turbo Buick > you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jersey Shore Vehicle: 1984 Buick Regal T-type Posts: 1,336	4400$!??!? Geez....my built tranny costed me around 2400$. I got new valve body, LSD, all new performance cyro treated clutches, translab shift kit ,new shift bands, new solenoids, all new gaskets and bearings and bushings, and an "ATX Boost Controller" (allows me to select how hard the car shifts;4 diff settings). I cant imagine the 4cyl tranmission costing more to build up.... check out http://www.importperformancetrans.co...ishiauto.shtml. They do great work Last edited by callmeebryan; 02/11/2006 at 09:53 AM.

02/11/2006, 10:44 AM	#98 (permalink)
callmeebryan Turbo Buick > you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jersey Shore Vehicle: 1984 Buick Regal T-type Posts: 1,336	check again

02/11/2006, 04:15 PM	#101 (permalink)
icemanrld19 stupid booster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: claysburg, camden, martinsburg, bridgeport, addison/dallas. Vehicle: Single snailed spyder Posts: 7,065	hes ripped

02/12/2006, 03:13 PM	#104 (permalink)
InSpite Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 152	I'll post the dynos later, but here is the results from my reflash. I have a 2001 gt manual with 89,000 miles. Short ram intake, AMSS downpipe with high flow cat, and magnaflow exhaust. I set the SAFC-II to 0 correction for the before HP and TQ numbers. Before: 171.9 HP at 6,000 rpm 171.5 TQ at 4500 rpm After: 180.9 @ 5750 rpm 180.9 @ 4500 rpm Jay advanced the timing slightly and removed the rev limiter. The horsepower does not fall off, even at 6000 rpm. I have kept the safc for nitrous. We did a few pulls to make sure it would be safe. I got 213.5 HP at 5250 rpm and 243.7 TQ at 3750 rpm. I have a NX wet kit with the 50hp jet in. My bottle pressure was a just touching the green, so it was a little low. It was a mustang dyno, and it was about 70 degrees. My impression is that nobody in AZ should get an SAFC. This takes the place of it. It is also nice not to have to worry about hitting fuel cutoff while spraying. A slight overrev is bad, but not as bad as hitting fuel cutoff. What do you all thing about my hp numbers?

02/12/2006, 03:32 PM	#105 (permalink)
MitsuGTRacing WannaB Sexual Banana Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Milton, FL Vehicle: 08 Tundra Posts: 2,782	I thought our vehicles were only drag limited for speed. I've hit 150 in my GT 5spd...

02/12/2006, 03:34 PM	#106 (permalink)
icemanrld19 stupid booster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: claysburg, camden, martinsburg, bridgeport, addison/dallas. Vehicle: Single snailed spyder Posts: 7,065	damn nice improvement. so everything runs perfect without the safc with and without nitrous? congrates man

02/12/2006, 03:39 PM	#107 (permalink)
Crow Resident Asshole Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Albany, OH Vehicle: 08 Evo X GSR Posts: 5,894	are you gonna scan in the dyno graphs from the runs? i would like to see hte afr values on the runs. anyone want to chip in money so i can haul my car out there and see what they can really do? Last edited by Crow; 02/12/2006 at 03:44 PM.

02/12/2006, 03:43 PM	#108 (permalink)
MitsuGTRacing WannaB Sexual Banana Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Milton, FL Vehicle: 08 Tundra Posts: 2,782	Jeez, id love to get over 210 to the wheels.

02/12/2006, 03:50 PM	#109 (permalink)
icemanrld19 stupid booster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: claysburg, camden, martinsburg, bridgeport, addison/dallas. Vehicle: Single snailed spyder Posts: 7,065	crow ill chip in $25. Cheap insurance for me.

02/12/2006, 04:04 PM	#111 (permalink)
InSpite Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 152	Here is the before/after dyno graph. The air fuel ratio is 13.5 to 13.8. There is a small spot around 4,000 rpm where it dips into the 12's. Jay worked a while to get this dip out, but I don't think he got all of it. [IMG][/IMG] Last edited by InSpite; 02/12/2006 at 04:13 PM.

02/12/2006, 04:25 PM	#114 (permalink)
InSpite Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 152	Here is the nitrous dyno pull compared to the tuned dyno pull. [IMG][/IMG]

02/12/2006, 10:04 PM	#116 (permalink)
Majend GH in a car!?! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plymouth MN Vehicle: 2003 eclipse "GH" Posts: 256	six months ago if someone would have asked me if i would be on the leading edge of a development such as this i would have never believed it. i really hope that this turns into as big a thing as everyone wants it to be cuz i think it is. i just wanted to say it is an honor __________________ The Answer is 42

02/12/2006, 10:31 PM	#117 (permalink)
Phat3g CHEF Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: surprise,az Vehicle: 08 scion xb & 06 mazda 6i Posts: 1,114	i cant wait for themt o get my car all done damn fed specs