Immobilzer delete for ECU swaps - Club3G Forum : Mitsubishi Eclipse 3G Forums

FlashBlueRS · 03/18/2007, 05:44 PM

I can now delete the immobilizer for anyone doing an ECU swap. This includes 2000 to 2001+ ecu swaps and EVO ecu swaps for the rs/gs guys. This has been verified to work on the 4 cylinders and should work on the V6's.

GSKNIGHT · 03/18/2007, 05:46 PM

Let me be the first to say...wOO-HOo!

GSKNIGHT · 03/18/2007, 05:52 PM

So does this mean we wont need to get a different key either?

FlashBlueRS · 03/18/2007, 05:59 PM

Exactly. The ECU won't look for any of the immobilizer features when you start the car. You can use the same key you have always used.

skinnyGT · 03/18/2007, 06:04 PM

damn Flash, you are the man. how do you go about eliminating the immobilizer?

Chief Brody · 03/18/2007, 06:08 PM

Is this a service you are offering Flash?

McLarenross · 03/18/2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnyGT

damn Flash, you are the man. how do you go about eliminating the immobilizer?

Ditto.

FlashBlueRS · 03/18/2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Brody

Is this a service you are offering Flash?

Yes it is. Along with tuning.

GSKNIGHT · 03/18/2007, 06:31 PM

Along the same lines with this - Are you ready to disclose the big suprize you have for the turbo guys yet?

chino · 03/18/2007, 07:05 PM

How much??????

FlashBlueRS · 03/18/2007, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSKNIGHT

Along the same lines with this - Are you ready to disclose the big suprize you have for the turbo guys yet?

Yeah. It's for turbo and modified NA 4 cylinders only though. I have been able to give the stock ECU all of the features of the Evo 8 ECU. I have been driving around with it to make sure it works and I haven't run into any problems other than the ones you would get when you use the actual Evo ECU. It will get it's own thread soon.

FlashBlueRS · 03/18/2007, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chino

How much??????

I am going to post the prices of all of my EcuFlash services in a for sale thread soon. Expect the immobilizer delete to be about $25.

tr20sdrummer · 03/18/2007, 07:25 PM

ok..so for us 2000 gs guys we just need a 2003 gs/evo ecu and thats it?

FlashBlueRS · 03/18/2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tr20sdrummer

ok..so for us 2000 gs guys we just need a 2003 gs/evo ecu and thats it?

and the reluctor. A $12 part

tr20sdrummer · 03/18/2007, 07:36 PM

fantastic!!! that gives me a fucking hard on dude..

chino · 03/18/2007, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

I am going to post the prices of all of my EcuFlash services in a for sale thread soon. Expect the immobilizer delete to be about $25.

Do we have to mail the ecu to you?

FlashBlueRS · 03/18/2007, 08:00 PM

You will have to install the new ECU to read the ROM off of it. Then you email it to me and I will edit that ROM and email the modified ROM to you so you can flash it back to the ECU. That's all there is to it.

icemanrld19 · 03/18/2007, 08:02 PM

everyone should e-rep this guy more. NOW dammit

tr20sdrummer · 03/18/2007, 08:09 PM

E-REP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chino · 03/18/2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

You will have to install the new ECU to read the ROM off of it. Then you email it to me and I will edit that ROM and email the modified ROM to you so you can flash it back to the ECU. That's all there is to it.

Nice E-rep for you!

strestout1 · 03/18/2007, 09:32 PM

erep given.

SilverStalian · 03/18/2007, 10:18 PM

Great job we all should be thankful for a asset like FlashBlueRs to the 3G community

EREP given

Jetblackness · 03/18/2007, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

Yeah. It's for turbo and modified NA 4 cylinders only though. I have been able to give the stock ECU all of the features of the Evo 8 ECU. I have been driving around with it to make sure it works and I haven't run into any problems other than the ones you would get when you use the actual Evo ECU. It will get it's own thread soon.

No use to me, but none-the-less excellent work!

cyberbrain · 03/19/2007, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

Yeah. It's for turbo and modified NA 4 cylinders only though. I have been able to give the stock ECU all of the features of the Evo 8 ECU. I have been driving around with it to make sure it works and I haven't run into any problems other than the ones you would get when you use the actual Evo ECU. It will get it's own thread soon.

So this means that the 3g ecu is now turbo friendly

JoeKamel · 03/19/2007, 05:45 AM

Is this flashing the Evo software onto the 3g ecu? Or were the larger load maps and boost sensor stuff in our software all along?

Reason I ask is that there are some features on the Evo that aren't on the 3g, like the two speed fuel pump for instance. If this is putting the Evo software on the 3g ECU doesn't that pretty much kill it for people with auto/sporty trannies? And would it mean requiring the immobilizer delete then too since the stock immobilizer won't work with the Evo? Then again, its all moot if its a case of just unlocking those options in the stock software.

Just some things that I was curious about with this and figured it would be good to ask so people know what's involved is all.

00TampaBlueGS · 03/19/2007, 06:03 AM

I can't rep you anymore yet, Flash, else I certainly would!

This is great news, and I hope to make use of your trick(s) pretty soon.
I was seriously considering finding an Evo ECU in preparation for future boosting, but now my options appear wide open!

Good stuff!!

kidney_bean · 03/19/2007, 06:35 AM

Wow, I have been wondering if this was possible for a while now. I'm glad you unlocked the secret to this! Be expecting a request from me in a few months when I get to come home to the states for a little while!

abert00gt · 03/19/2007, 11:26 AM

Would you just have to power up the ecu to pull the rom off of it and then email the rom to you to delete the immobilizer and your good to go?

karacing · 03/19/2007, 12:53 PM

So how can i go about my 00 sporty i am goin turbo very soon, can i switch it out for newer (eclipse) ECU+reluctor and it will be boost friendly for a sporty, and i mean no piggyback?

karacing · 03/19/2007, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashBlueRS

I can now delete the immobilizer for anyone doing an ECU swap. This includes 2000 to 2001+ ecu swaps and EVO ecu swaps for the rs/gs guys. This has been verified to work on the 4 cylinders and should work on the V6's.

by the way i would like to say thanks for all your hard work to support us

FlashBlueRS · 03/19/2007, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abert00gt

Would you just have to power up the ecu to pull the rom off of it and then email the rom to you to delete the immobilizer and your good to go?

That is all you will be able to do without the correct immobilizer. Just plug the new ECU in, turn the key to "on" and read the ROM off of it. Then I will be able to delete the immobilizer.

cyberbrain · 03/19/2007, 03:21 PM

so what does the new features all include? all the evo stuff? what does the load map go up to now?

karacing · 03/19/2007, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberbrain

so what does the new features all include? all the evo stuff? what does the load map go up to now?

FlashBlueRS · 03/19/2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberbrain

so what does the new features all include? all the evo stuff? what does the load map go up to now?

Look at any evo8 rom, you get those features. I will have a new thread shortly where I can answer all of these questions.

cyberbrain · 03/19/2007, 04:26 PM

you are bomb .

Eclipsed01 · 03/19/2007, 09:22 PM

wow. seriously Flash thank you. I can't wait to get to the point where I need your expertise.

E REP

allias · 03/20/2007, 06:27 AM

All of that is great news but wont that make it easier to steal our car?

Overall - props for huge input in 3G comunity. Erep.

Chief Brody · 03/20/2007, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allias

All of that is great news but wont that make it easier to steal our car?

Overall - props for huge input in 3G comunity. Erep.

That's something I thought of. You will no longer have the immobilizer to protect you. But think of it this way, you wouldn't have it either if you had a full standalone. Like they always say, if a theif really wants your car, they can get it. Seems to be a very small trade off.

kidney_bean · 03/20/2007, 07:29 AM

Since I have an RS and don't have the immobilizer, it's no different for me...plus, I'll just get an aftermarket alarm down the road anyways. Brody is right though, if they want it bad enough, they'll take it...and be very grateful for all the money you put into their new ride too!

FlashBlueRS · 03/20/2007, 10:02 AM

I don't recommend getting rid of the immobilizer, but it's necessary for some mods.

2kgteclass · 03/20/2007, 12:19 PM

Why remove it when you can just tell the ecu what the immobilizer code is with ecuflash? Then you just have to find out what the immobilizer code was for the old ecu and flash your new ecu with the code.

XwP1ayawX · 03/20/2007, 12:28 PM

Hmmm flash, quite the man. When my new motor is done I'm going have you help me get the thing running right. I'd rather pay you than somebody who I don't know

tr20sdrummer · 03/20/2007, 12:51 PM

X2

FlashBlueRS · 03/20/2007, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2kgteclass

Why remove it when you can just tell the ecu what the immobilizer code is with ecuflash? Then you just have to find out what the immobilizer code was for the old ecu and flash your new ecu with the code.

You can't swap a 2001+ into a 2000 or an evo ecu into any 3g without replacing the immobilizer. You will also have to get new keys for that immobilizer. Just changing the immobilizer code in the ecu won't work.

karacing · 03/20/2007, 06:00 PM

lets say i switch in a 2001+ ecu into my 2000 car and delete immoblizer but if i want to get an immobilizer in the future can you just turn it back on, but for another fee of 20$?

FlashBlueRS · 03/20/2007, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karacing

lets say i switch in a 2001+ ecu into my 2000 car and delete immoblizer but if i want to get an immobilizer in the future can you just turn it back on, but for another fee of 20$?

yeah, i can do that

03/20/2007, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidney_bean

Since I have an RS and don't have the immobilizer, it's no different for me...plus, I'll just get an aftermarket alarm down the road anyways. Brody is right though, if they want it bad enough, they'll take it...and be very grateful for all the money you put into their new ride too!

All 3g eclipses have immobilizers. By removing the immobilizer from the ecu your only removing half of the immobilizer protection. You will still need the key with the proper rf code that matches the immobilizer box in your car or it won't run or start.

kidney_bean · 03/21/2007, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenks03spyder

All 3g eclipses have immobilizers. By removing the immobilizer from the ecu your only removing half of the immobilizer protection. You will still need the key with the proper rf code that matches the immobilizer box in your car or it won't run or start.

I guess I misunderstood then when everyone said I'd need an immobilizer if I want to switch to a GS ECU so I can have the sportronic function...I just figured that I didn't have one...thanks for the clarification.

JoeKamel · 03/21/2007, 06:54 AM

No, you don't need an immobilizer. The way our immobilizer works is you have the immobilizer ECU and the PCM. The immobilizer reads the code from your key and if that's right it forwards another code to the PCM. If the PCM doesn't get the right code from the immobilizer, it cuts out the engine (I forget if it cuts fuel or if it cuts spark).

Now if you swap PCMs to a sporty one, you'll need the flash to change what code the PCM on the new one to match your current immobilizer. Now I don't know about on the 4cyl, but the 2003 year v6s have a different cam reluctor than the other years, so make sure that you get a 2003 PCM or change your cam reluctor.

FlashBlueRS · 03/21/2007, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeKamel

No, you don't need an immobilizer. The way our immobilizer works is you have the immobilizer ECU and the PCM. The immobilizer reads the code from your key and if that's right it forwards another code to the PCM. If the PCM doesn't get the right code from the immobilizer, it cuts out the engine (I forget if it cuts fuel or if it cuts spark).

Now if you swap PCMs to a sporty one, you'll need the flash to change what code the PCM on the new one to match your current immobilizer. Now I don't know about on the 4cyl, but the 2003 year v6s have a different cam reluctor than the other years, so make sure that you get a 2003 PCM or change your cam reluctor.

v6's don't have reluctors

JoeKamel · 03/21/2007, 10:30 AM

Arg, you're right. I need to stop posting right when I wake up lol.

malachi · 03/21/2007, 10:33 AM

WOW, ok flash, i was messing with the ECUFLASH progam the other day with the stock EVO maps. there were all kinds of things in the left hand window, like:
all the basic stuff
timing maps
fuel maps
rev limits

but then there were about ten boost things to change and quite alot of other things

are you saying that you can make a 3g ECU have all the features of an EVO ECU?

and that even though i have a 2000 ECU i still need to swap it to either a 2001+ 3g ECU or EVO ECU?

i will probly go with the EVO ECU because after my head swap ill go turbo.

goosey2099 · 03/21/2007, 10:39 AM

I have a 2001 Eclipse M/T ecu for sale if anyone is intrestead in upgrading their 2000 one. This ecu you can flash.

karacing · 03/21/2007, 11:28 AM

PM with price

project02mits · 03/21/2007, 03:33 PM

ok call me retarted because i do haha but im not the brightest guy in the world when it comes to the tuning aspect. apologies for stupid q.s in advance. i have a 2002 rs man. trans... can you tell me exactly what im ganna need to do this reflash business through FlashBlueRS. from readin the forum im thinkin i wont need a diff ecu... i was thinkin bout gettin evo ecu and runnin piggyback system, but was told to wait for this to get underway. thx flash for all the hard work and hope to get the program runnnin through you very soon. thx for all the help guys.

GSKNIGHT · 03/21/2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by project02mits

ok call me retarted because i do haha but im not the brightest guy in the world when it comes to the tuning aspect. apologies for stupid q.s in advance. i have a 2002 rs man. trans... can you tell me exactly what im ganna need to do this reflash business through FlashBlueRS. from readin the forum im thinkin i wont need a diff ecu... i was thinkin bout gettin evo ecu and runnin piggyback system, but was told to wait for this to get underway. thx flash for all the hard work and hope to get the program runnnin through you very soon. thx for all the help guys.

No, your ECU is just fine. First, if you dont have one already, get a laptop. Then get the cable from www.tactrix.com, and download EcuFlash for free from www.openecu.org. You'll also want a datalogger; I use EvoScan ($25 download) and love it - there is also one called Mitsulogger that is free I think.

Eclipsed01 · 03/21/2007, 05:39 PM

where do you get the evo scan from?

shiznit013 · 03/21/2007, 08:59 PM

http://www.limitless.co.nz/evoscan/

4G64TT · 03/21/2007, 09:05 PM

as was asked by the gumby dude...
EVO's dont have a "sporty" option...
so could i get you to make my ECU (01 GS) to have the evo functions even with my sporty (which is something i want to keep)?

FlashBlueRS · 03/21/2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 4G64TT

as was asked by the gumby dude...
EVO's dont have a "sporty" option...
so could i get you to make my ECU (01 GS) to have the evo functions even with my sporty (which is something i want to keep)?

no, but since i can remove the immobilizer, you can wire them both up just like you would an AEM EMS and a sporty ecu.

03/18/2007, 05:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,948	Immobilzer delete for ECU swaps I can now delete the immobilizer for anyone doing an ECU swap. This includes 2000 to 2001+ ecu swaps and EVO ecu swaps for the rs/gs guys. This has been verified to work on the 4 cylinders and should work on the V6's.

03/18/2007, 06:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chief Brody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin Vehicle: 2000 GST 5spd Posts: 1,429	Is this a service you are offering Flash? __________________ Turbonetics DSM manifold Turbonetics T3/T4 AAI intercooler & charge piping Greddy Emanage Blue 440cc injectors Pocketlogger and PLX wideband Tsudo 2.5" Catback Hook'em Horns!

03/19/2007, 06:03 AM	#26 (permalink)
00TampaBlueGS MINI by proxy Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: 2007 MINI Cooper S Posts: 4,408	I can't rep you anymore yet, Flash, else I certainly would! This is great news, and I hope to make use of your trick(s) pretty soon. I was seriously considering finding an Evo ECU in preparation for future boosting, but now my options appear wide open! Good stuff!! __________________ My Ride, gradually evolving... My ambitious "Eclipsed(EVO)" plans for my GS: PHASE 1 -DOHC research__(n00bish fumblings) First documented AWD 3G_(local inspiration) messing w/ Evo 8 gear____(turbo options) See where I'm going with this? ...right back into debt.

03/19/2007, 06:35 AM	#27 (permalink)
kidney_bean Dover White Pearl RS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Charleston, SC Vehicle: 2003 RS Sporty Posts: 1,690	Wow, I have been wondering if this was possible for a while now. I'm glad you unlocked the secret to this! Be expecting a request from me in a few months when I get to come home to the states for a little while! __________________ Current Mods Injen CAI CMF Header/Hi-Flow Cat Invidia N1 Cat-Back 13" LS1/Cobra Brakes KYB AGX/TEIN S-Techs ST Rear Sway Bar GT Front Strut Bar 18" Black Racing Pro N-1 Wheels Sonar Projectors w/4300K HID Sportronic Conversion AVIC D3/XM Radio/NavTraffic Black TYC Tails GT Side Skirts Ready To Install RMDSM Front Sway Bar Firm front; poly rear mounts 5pc Black Grillecraft

03/19/2007, 12:53 PM	#29 (permalink)
karacing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 312	So how can i go about my 00 sporty i am goin turbo very soon, can i switch it out for newer (eclipse) ECU+reluctor and it will be boost friendly for a sporty, and i mean no piggyback? __________________ "The only thing i have in this world is my balls and my word and i aint break'in em for no one."

03/18/2007, 05:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
GSKNIGHT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Killeen/Harker Heights, TX Vehicle: 02 sherwood green GS Posts: 2,092	Let me be the first to say...wOO-HOo!

03/18/2007, 05:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
GSKNIGHT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Killeen/Harker Heights, TX Vehicle: 02 sherwood green GS Posts: 2,092	So does this mean we wont need to get a different key either?

03/18/2007, 05:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,948	Exactly. The ECU won't look for any of the immobilizer features when you start the car. You can use the same key you have always used.

03/18/2007, 06:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
skinnyGT V8 > 3G Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Carlisle, PA Vehicle: Camaro SS Posts: 2,278	damn Flash, you are the man. how do you go about eliminating the immobilizer?

03/18/2007, 06:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
GSKNIGHT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Killeen/Harker Heights, TX Vehicle: 02 sherwood green GS Posts: 2,092	Along the same lines with this - Are you ready to disclose the big suprize you have for the turbo guys yet?

03/18/2007, 07:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
chino Psychotic Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 933	How much??????

03/18/2007, 07:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
tr20sdrummer boosted summer o7' Join Date: May 2005 Location: madisonville ky Vehicle: 00 gs black mt Posts: 219	ok..so for us 2000 gs guys we just need a 2003 gs/evo ecu and thats it?

03/18/2007, 07:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
tr20sdrummer boosted summer o7' Join Date: May 2005 Location: madisonville ky Vehicle: 00 gs black mt Posts: 219	fantastic!!! that gives me a fucking hard on dude..

03/18/2007, 08:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,948	You will have to install the new ECU to read the ROM off of it. Then you email it to me and I will edit that ROM and email the modified ROM to you so you can flash it back to the ECU. That's all there is to it.

03/18/2007, 08:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
icemanrld19 stupid booster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: claysburg, camden, martinsburg, bridgeport, addison/dallas. Vehicle: Single snailed spyder Posts: 7,204	everyone should e-rep this guy more. NOW dammit

03/18/2007, 08:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
tr20sdrummer boosted summer o7' Join Date: May 2005 Location: madisonville ky Vehicle: 00 gs black mt Posts: 219	E-REP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03/18/2007, 09:32 PM	#21 (permalink)
strestout1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Columbia, SC Vehicle: 00 Eclipse GT Fed Spec Posts: 742	erep given.

03/18/2007, 10:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
SilverStalian 2001 GS AT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Jersey Vehicle: 01 GS AT Posts: 76	Great job we all should be thankful for a asset like FlashBlueRs to the 3G community EREP given

03/19/2007, 05:45 AM	#25 (permalink)
JoeKamel I am Gumby damnit! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange County, NY Vehicle: 2003 Stratus R/T Posts: 316	Is this flashing the Evo software onto the 3g ecu? Or were the larger load maps and boost sensor stuff in our software all along? Reason I ask is that there are some features on the Evo that aren't on the 3g, like the two speed fuel pump for instance. If this is putting the Evo software on the 3g ECU doesn't that pretty much kill it for people with auto/sporty trannies? And would it mean requiring the immobilizer delete then too since the stock immobilizer won't work with the Evo? Then again, its all moot if its a case of just unlocking those options in the stock software. Just some things that I was curious about with this and figured it would be good to ask so people know what's involved is all.

03/19/2007, 11:26 AM	#28 (permalink)
abert00gt Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Vehicle: Eclipse GT Posts: 14	Would you just have to power up the ecu to pull the rom off of it and then email the rom to you to delete the immobilizer and your good to go?

03/19/2007, 03:21 PM	#32 (permalink)
cyberbrain Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Vehicle: 08 Jeep JK 4x4 Posts: 2,097	so what does the new features all include? all the evo stuff? what does the load map go up to now?

03/19/2007, 04:26 PM	#35 (permalink)
cyberbrain Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cleveland, OH Vehicle: 08 Jeep JK 4x4 Posts: 2,097	you are bomb .

03/19/2007, 09:22 PM	#36 (permalink)
Eclipsed01 I'm Working On It... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Memphis TN Vehicle: 01 Eclipse GS Posts: 1,002	wow. seriously Flash thank you. I can't wait to get to the point where I need your expertise. E REP __________________ -Members Rides Page- http://www.club3g.com/forum/members-rides/56904-eclipsed01s-work-progress.html

03/20/2007, 06:27 AM	#37 (permalink)
allias Yes... I`m Polish :) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 144	All of that is great news but wont that make it easier to steal our car? Overall - props for huge input in 3G comunity. Erep. __________________ 00 Sterling Silver GS

03/20/2007, 07:29 AM	#39 (permalink)
kidney_bean Dover White Pearl RS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Charleston, SC Vehicle: 2003 RS Sporty Posts: 1,690	Since I have an RS and don't have the immobilizer, it's no different for me...plus, I'll just get an aftermarket alarm down the road anyways. Brody is right though, if they want it bad enough, they'll take it...and be very grateful for all the money you put into their new ride too! __________________ Current Mods Injen CAI CMF Header/Hi-Flow Cat Invidia N1 Cat-Back 13" LS1/Cobra Brakes KYB AGX/TEIN S-Techs ST Rear Sway Bar GT Front Strut Bar 18" Black Racing Pro N-1 Wheels Sonar Projectors w/4300K HID Sportronic Conversion AVIC D3/XM Radio/NavTraffic Black TYC Tails GT Side Skirts Ready To Install RMDSM Front Sway Bar Firm front; poly rear mounts 5pc Black Grillecraft

03/20/2007, 10:02 AM	#40 (permalink)
FlashBlueRS Zero Resistance, LLC Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 02 DOHC Eclipse RS Posts: 1,948	I don't recommend getting rid of the immobilizer, but it's necessary for some mods.

03/20/2007, 12:19 PM	#41 (permalink)
2kgteclass mumbles the madman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: RHODE ISLAND Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GT Posts: 242	Why remove it when you can just tell the ecu what the immobilizer code is with ecuflash? Then you just have to find out what the immobilizer code was for the old ecu and flash your new ecu with the code.

03/20/2007, 12:28 PM	#42 (permalink)
XwP1ayawX GT35 Monster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Space Vehicle: V-ROD, R6, GST Posts: 10,276	Hmmm flash, quite the man. When my new motor is done I'm going have you help me get the thing running right. I'd rather pay you than somebody who I don't know

03/20/2007, 12:51 PM	#43 (permalink)
tr20sdrummer boosted summer o7' Join Date: May 2005 Location: madisonville ky Vehicle: 00 gs black mt Posts: 219	X2

03/20/2007, 06:00 PM	#45 (permalink)
karacing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 312	lets say i switch in a 2001+ ecu into my 2000 car and delete immoblizer but if i want to get an immobilizer in the future can you just turn it back on, but for another fee of 20$? __________________ "The only thing i have in this world is my balls and my word and i aint break'in em for no one."

03/21/2007, 06:54 AM	#49 (permalink)
JoeKamel I am Gumby damnit! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange County, NY Vehicle: 2003 Stratus R/T Posts: 316	No, you don't need an immobilizer. The way our immobilizer works is you have the immobilizer ECU and the PCM. The immobilizer reads the code from your key and if that's right it forwards another code to the PCM. If the PCM doesn't get the right code from the immobilizer, it cuts out the engine (I forget if it cuts fuel or if it cuts spark). Now if you swap PCMs to a sporty one, you'll need the flash to change what code the PCM on the new one to match your current immobilizer. Now I don't know about on the 4cyl, but the 2003 year v6s have a different cam reluctor than the other years, so make sure that you get a 2003 PCM or change your cam reluctor.

03/21/2007, 10:30 AM	#51 (permalink)
JoeKamel I am Gumby damnit! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange County, NY Vehicle: 2003 Stratus R/T Posts: 316	Arg, you're right. I need to stop posting right when I wake up lol.

03/21/2007, 10:33 AM	#52 (permalink)
malachi Engineer/Realist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Louisiana Vehicle: 2000 RS Posts: 4,491	WOW, ok flash, i was messing with the ECUFLASH progam the other day with the stock EVO maps. there were all kinds of things in the left hand window, like: all the basic stuff timing maps fuel maps rev limits but then there were about ten boost things to change and quite alot of other things are you saying that you can make a 3g ECU have all the features of an EVO ECU? and that even though i have a 2000 ECU i still need to swap it to either a 2001+ 3g ECU or EVO ECU? i will probly go with the EVO ECU because after my head swap ill go turbo. __________________ stock RS 16.1 in 1/4 mile car on diet, but still stock = 15.58 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS STOCK 2006 FASTEST ECLIPSE RS/GS N/A 2008 NEW RECORD, RS/GS N/A = 15.2 2009 DOHC + 10psi = 14.0 @ 101.89MPH 2009 DOHC + 15psi = 13.3 @ 108MPH 2010 DOHC + ~psi = 13.05@ 102MPH FOR SALE - PM ME 2000RS-Turbo is my cock sucking bitch! NEG HIM! BLACK OPS 10-0 "one in the chamber" - FLAWLESS

03/21/2007, 10:39 AM	#53 (permalink)
goosey2099 4G64 5SPD/TURBO Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NY Vehicle: 2001 Galant Posts: 404	I have a 2001 Eclipse M/T ecu for sale if anyone is intrestead in upgrading their 2000 one. This ecu you can flash. __________________ 4G64 5 SPEED MY 5 SPEED - MY TURBO BUILD - MY CARPUTER - MY CAR

03/21/2007, 11:28 AM	#54 (permalink)
karacing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 312	PM with price __________________ "The only thing i have in this world is my balls and my word and i aint break'in em for no one."