The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.

Brad_2008 · 02/01/2010, 10:28 PM

I have been getting this message a lot lately.

morbidjester · 02/01/2010, 10:53 PM

Not me.

Jeffylou87 · 02/01/2010, 11:11 PM

I got it a few times yesterday..

Steveodotcom1 · 02/01/2010, 11:48 PM

It happens, it's something that you'll quickly get used to here.

Jeffylou87 · 02/02/2010, 12:16 AM

Lol.. Ray, you silly fuck.

raz_76 · 02/02/2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffylou87

Lol.. Ray, you silly fuck.

Brad_2008 · 02/02/2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Steveodotcom1

It happens, it's something that you'll quickly get used to here.

k just wanted to make sure it wasn't a non-known issue.

thanks

HIJACKER · 02/02/2010, 10:57 AM

It's a follow-up to this thread from 2009:
Database Errors

Which was a thread in follow-up to the issues in 2007-2008.

Brad_2008 · 02/02/2010, 10:59 AM

ok i looked but i couldnt find anything....thanks

silverside · 02/02/2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Steveodotcom1

It happens, it's something that you'll quickly get used to here.

I haven't gotten used to it yet. it starts to piss me off. I dont see why they cant give premium members a higher priority on the server than the noobs and all the guests.

silverside · 02/02/2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HIJACKER

It's a follow-up to this thread from 2009:
Database Errors

Which was a thread in follow-up to the issues in 2007-2008.

There you go again. He is talking about the server being too busy not the database errors. i get both but the database errors are few and far between.

aaronsspyder · 02/02/2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by silverside

There you go again your not a god. he is talking about the server being too busy not the database errors. i get both but the database errors are few and far between.

That is who he is! I think his personality provides entertainment when ripping nOOblets new ones. That may just be because I have an evil sense of humor though.

silverside · 02/02/2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronsspyder

That is who he is! I think his personality provides entertainment when ripping nOOblets new ones. That may just be because I have an evil sense of humor though.

I know but it gets on my nerves sometimes

TE · 02/02/2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by raz_76

It' s designed for you nooblets to give us older guys a break from stupidity, that's all. Sorry for the inconvenience.

not Off topic, be nicer. Goes for everyone

HIJACKER · 02/02/2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silverside

There you go again. He is talking about the server being too busy not the database errors. i get both but the database errors are few and far between.

If you had been here long enough to experience ALL of the issues AND you knew anything about webhosting, SQL, vBulletin, PHP, and whatever else I didn't take the time to list out - you would relize that BOTH of those errors are related to each other from the same root problem.

But of course, you just assume I'm being a dickhead because I searched and located the original thread and quoted how long it's been occuring to show that its most likely the same issue again, which in no way was a nooblet flame.

Anything else you care to add or are you done?

raz_76 · 02/02/2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by silverside

I know but it gets on my nerves sometimes

Get over it!! Or get used to it because he's 3G family and he's not going anywhere.

raz_76 · 02/02/2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TE

not Off topic, be nicer. Goes for everyone

"It' s designed for you nooblets to give us older guys a break from stupidity, that's all. Sorry for the inconvenience"
What's so off topic about my statement?? It's a joke?

Be nicer? this is club3g, isn't it?? Since when are we nice to nooblets?? Have you gone soft?

jaloosk · 02/02/2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by raz_76

Be nicer? this is club3g, isn't it?? Since when are we nice to nooblets?? Have you gone soft?

Read the rules, n00b.

This is not OT, keep the comments relevant

drunkoffjuic · 02/02/2010, 12:52 PM

I got that all day long yesterday, you don hear me bitching about it. Deal with it, on this site it happens. Just refresh the page!!

raz_76 · 02/02/2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jaloosk

Read the rules, n00b.

This is not OT, keep the comments relevant

Who you talking to 4 month old premature member??

jaloosk · 02/02/2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by raz_76

Who you talking to 4 month old premature member??

I thought you might catch that

05eclipse05 · 02/02/2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raz_76

Who you talking to 4 month old premature member??

Hush n00blet

raz_76 · 02/02/2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 05eclipse05

Hush n00blet

raz_76 · 02/02/2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jaloosk

I thought you might catch that

Glad you have a sense a humor and this didn't turn into a piss match.

tzvier · 02/02/2010, 03:10 PM

Back on topic....I thought the rebuild was suppose to prevent this from happening

I can understand it occasionally, but it seems to be getting more frequent.

jaloosk · 02/02/2010, 03:12 PM

I know I'm going to regret not searching, but what does the existing server environment look like, logically? Everything running on one server (tier-1 layout), or is it split out into separate web/app/db servers? (tier 2/3 layout) What hardware is running this joint? Also, (I'm sure Ed's checked this already, but you never know) have you modified your *NIX Server Load Limit settings?

silverside · 02/02/2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tzvier

Back on topic....I thought the rebuild was suppose to prevent this from happening

I can understand it occasionally, but it seems to be getting more frequent.

This is why it annoys me.

shata · 02/03/2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffylou87

I got it a few times yesterday..

Me2, ive had it happen most days seems like peakish times but really when i check how many guests and users r on its not that much. Not huge deal i just walk away for 10min and come back n it works again.

No_one21 · 02/03/2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by silverside

I haven't gotten used to it yet. it starts to piss me off. I dont see why they cant give premium members a higher priority on the server than the noobs and all the guests.

May I ask who you're trying to label as "premium members"? The mods maybe, but you aren't one. Do you mean those with a certain amount of posts? Or E-rep? Because you don't have much of either. How about those who have been here for years? You only have one year. The only conceivable meaning you could equate yourself to is the Contributors. Wouldn't that basically mean you have to pay to get on this site if there is a lot of traffic?

Not trying to piss you off, I know I'm still a noob, and have not contributed with money, but your statement should be clarified.

jaloosk · 02/03/2010, 01:55 PM

I read "premium members" as "contributors".

There wouldn't be any way to do this without QoS and traffic shaping, both of which you can't do over the public internets. You need to be on a private network.

HIJACKER · 02/03/2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by No_one21

May I ask who you're trying to label as "premium members"? The mods maybe, but you aren't one. Do you mean those with a certain amount of posts? Or E-rep? Because you don't have much of either. How about those who have been here for years? You only have one year. The only conceivable meaning you could equate yourself to is the Contributors. Wouldn't that basically mean you have to pay to get on this site if there is a lot of traffic?

Not trying to piss you off, I know I'm still a noob, and have not contributed with money, but your statement should be clarified.

I'm pretty sure he meant by being a "contributor". Surely if those of us are providing financial support to keep this place running should have priority over those who are not. I see where he's coming from (to some degree).

But then again, it's a moot point because there is no way to even entertain that concept where it would make sense. It's easier to just fix the damn thing than implement yet ANOTHER query to evaluate the "user status" on each member for each click (disregarding the fact of caching) to provide access or not during high volumes. The idea itself is just retarded.

primula · 02/03/2010, 01:58 PM

I think it actually puts more load to the server by doing this priority thing.

HIJACKER · 02/03/2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by primula

I think it actually puts more load to the server by doing this priority thing.

Exactly why it's stupid.

No_one21 · 02/03/2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by primula

I think it actually puts more load to the server by doing this priority thing.

I had the same basic idea I was trying to get across, but I didn't use internets language because I'm not as fluent. So yes, I agree.

jaloosk · 02/03/2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HIJACKER

IIt's easier to just fix the damn thing than implement yet ANOTHER query to evaluate the "user status" on each member for each click (disregarding the fact of caching) to provide access or not during high volumes. The idea itself is just retarded.

Not to mention you can't even guarantee your connection without QoS. The web server fronting the application server just sees incoming requests and processes them all FIFO. It CANNOT differentiate between types of traffic. You have to shape the traffic at a lower level - in the routers - presenting traffic to the web server that's already been prioritized. Like I said before, you can't do that over the public internets. Your network needs to be private. (VPN, MPLS whatever)

silverside · 02/03/2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by No_one21

May I ask who you're trying to label as "premium members"? Not trying to piss you off, I know I'm still a noob, and have not contributed with money, but your statement should be clarified.

by premium member i mean the ones who have donated to the site.

If that will make it worse then what exactly causes the problem Steve since you run a few sites? Is it something simple?

jaloosk · 02/03/2010, 05:13 PM

After the last outage a few minutes ago, I did some poking around. Without intimate knowledge of the infrastructure, it looks to me like the site is getting smoked on the DB side, and that the application server and DB server *may* be separated already. Looks like a hardware upgrade is required.

I have some servers I'm about to retire; I'm going to PM Ed to see if he wants one for an upgrade. (we're going full virtual now, so we don't need the extra hardware anymore)

raz_76 · 02/03/2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jaloosk

After the last outage a few minutes ago, I did some poking around. Without intimate knowledge of the infrastructure, it looks to me like the site is getting smoked on the DB side, and that the application server and DB server *may* be separated already. Looks like a hardware upgrade is required.

I have some servers I'm about to retire; I'm going to PM Ed to see if he wants one for an upgrade. (we're going full virtual now, so we don't need the extra hardware anymore)

Yeah, what he said

jaloosk · 02/03/2010, 05:41 PM

lol sorry; I just re-read that and uhh...sorry for the technobabble. It's what I do, and I can easily get carried away.

HIJACKER · 02/03/2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by silverside

by premium member i mean the ones who have donated to the site.

If that will make it worse then what exactly causes the problem Steve since you run a few sites? Is it something simple?

I administrate/moderate a couple sites - I don't do the backend work on them, so I have absolutely no idea what the problem is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaloosk

After the last outage a few minutes ago, I did some poking around. Without intimate knowledge of the infrastructure, it looks to me like the site is getting smoked on the DB side, and that the application server and DB server *may* be separated already. Looks like a hardware upgrade is required.

I have some servers I'm about to retire; I'm going to PM Ed to see if he wants one for an upgrade. (we're going full virtual now, so we don't need the extra hardware anymore)

I'm pretty sure this site isn't hosted in a basement - it's probably through a hosting facility such as mediatemple or any others where the services are managed by them. Either some settings need to be tweaked or he needs to upgrade whatever package this place is on. It's not exactly a booming site, so I would lean towards tweaking the settings.

Funny how not even a single moderator/administrator has even chimed in on this thread...

jaloosk · 02/03/2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HIJACKER

I'm pretty sure this site isn't hosted in a basement - it's probably through a hosting facility such as mediatemple or any others where the services are managed by them. Either some settings need to be tweaked or he needs to upgrade whatever package this place is on. It's not exactly a booming site, so I would lean towards tweaking the settings.

Funny how not even a single moderator/administrator has even chimed in on this thread...

My next question to Ed was whether it's in a colo or fully managed. If it's colo, then I may have a DL585 they could use for the DB server, as the app server seems to be handling the load.

MCMike37 · 02/03/2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HIJACKER

Funny how not even a single moderator/administrator has even chimed in on this thread...

Most moderators are not involved in the database side of things. The issue is under investigation, and until there is positive evidence as to the exact cause of the problem and a solution there is nothing we can really comment on sadly.

And to address the "Premium Member/Contributor" thought, even if it were possible we would not do that because this has always been a free site for anyone interested about information about the 3G originally. It's why we created this forum after the last one was sold off to a business.

tracer bullet · 02/03/2010, 07:45 PM

No input from me, I can build a PC blindfolded but know precisely jack shit about software. Mods do know it's cropped up again and are discussing it.

Glenn · 02/03/2010, 08:50 PM

My understanding is that we already have our own dedicated servers for this site. Beyond knowing that, as MCMike has said, there's not much us mods can do.

MCMike37 · 02/06/2010, 11:16 AM

Just to let you know, the problem was administrative in nature, and not technology related. Please let us know if anyone has any further issues.

raz_76 · 02/06/2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MCMike37

Just to let you know, the problem was administrative in nature, and not technology related. Please let us know if anyone has any further issues.

It's been fine for me. Thanks guys.

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tzvier Unknown Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in Snow Posts: 1,317	Back on topic....I thought the rebuild was suppose to prevent this from happening I can understand it occasionally, but it seems to be getting more frequent.

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jaloosk I'm right. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ontari-ari-ari-o Vehicle: 2001 Spyder GS Posts: 1,534	I know I'm going to regret not searching, but what does the existing server environment look like, logically? Everything running on one server (tier-1 layout), or is it split out into separate web/app/db servers? (tier 2/3 layout) What hardware is running this joint? Also, (I'm sure Ed's checked this already, but you never know) have you modified your NIX Server Load Limit settings? __________________ "Cheap, good or fast. You can only have two out of three."* Last edited by jaloosk; 02/02/2010 at 03:24 PM.

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jaloosk I'm right. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ontari-ari-ari-o Vehicle: 2001 Spyder GS Posts: 1,534	I read "premium members" as "contributors". There wouldn't be any way to do this without QoS and traffic shaping, both of which you can't do over the public internets. You need to be on a private network. __________________ "Cheap, good or fast. You can only have two out of three."

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02/03/2010, 05:13 PM	#37 (permalink)
jaloosk I'm right. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ontari-ari-ari-o Vehicle: 2001 Spyder GS Posts: 1,534	After the last outage a few minutes ago, I did some poking around. Without intimate knowledge of the infrastructure, it looks to me like the site is getting smoked on the DB side, and that the application server and DB server may be separated already. Looks like a hardware upgrade is required. I have some servers I'm about to retire; I'm going to PM Ed to see if he wants one for an upgrade. (we're going full virtual now, so we don't need the extra hardware anymore) __________________ "Cheap, good or fast. You can only have two out of three."

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jaloosk I'm right. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ontari-ari-ari-o Vehicle: 2001 Spyder GS Posts: 1,534	lol sorry; I just re-read that and uhh...sorry for the technobabble. It's what I do, and I can easily get carried away. __________________ "Cheap, good or fast. You can only have two out of three."

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tracer bullet Spring King Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: St. Paul, MN Vehicle: 01 GT PP Posts: 3,382	No input from me, I can build a PC blindfolded but know precisely jack shit about software. Mods do know it's cropped up again and are discussing it.

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Glenn Um... Yeah!? Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GT Posts: 28,592	My understanding is that we already have our own dedicated servers for this site. Beyond knowing that, as MCMike has said, there's not much us mods can do.

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MCMike37 Photoshop Bitch Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cali Vehicle: 2000 GT Posts: 3,635	Just to let you know, the problem was administrative in nature, and not technology related. Please let us know if anyone has any further issues.