Protein and Supplement Thread

[Cam]

Originally Posted by BigFri

I have been told to take in one gram of protein for every pound of body weight for cutting or bulking. Your body can only process 20 grams of protein in one hour, if you take in more than that you are just shitting it out.

People who follow 1 gm per body pound usually are taking in too much protein. And 20gm thing doesnt go for everyone. When i started taking protein i had bad stomach aches b/c i was taking too much....now i can take much more with no effect. Besides absorbtion rates are different for every person. If you only count out and take 20gm per shake chances are you will only absord 15gm tops, which is why you should take in more. The goal is to have a constant supply of good nutrients in you stomach so that at no point your muscles are starving for anything.

[Cam]

Originally Posted by proteus_2k2

I don't think this is necessarily true. Do you have any scientific proof of this or a paper or two I can read?

Exactly....and taking that one step further, which protein are you talking about? Whey, soy, egg, casien? All have different absorbtion rates the can go beyond an hours time.

I think that 20 gram thing came out of the old days when protein was just a crappy whey source that when you took in more than 20gms made you sit on the pot all afternoon. Times have changed.

[charged_eclipse]

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[SilverRage]

Ok guys,

I have been reading that your body can only absorb a certain amount of protein at a time. So for instance, when I come home from the gym and make my protein shake (taking a 600 cal, 52 g protein, 80 g carbs per serving shake) Am I wasting it by drinking it all at once? Should I just drink half when I get home and the other before sleep? And how does that affect the protein I get from dinner? What do you guys recommend, dont wanna be wasting my money and protein down the pooper.

[Cam]

Yes you can only absorb a certain amount at once. But that depends on a factor of things. It the blend strictly soy?egg?whey?casien? All of which have different absorbtion rates. How much your body can actually absorb at once varies. Then the simple fact you dont actually absord 100% of the protein you take it.

So while you are taking in 50gm, you might only be absorbing 35-40gm of it. The goal really is, is to at no point have your body starving for nutrients. For that reason i break my shakes up periodicly throughout the day. I have Muscle Milk for instance and i do 1 scoop in the morning, before workout, after workout, and before bed. So that totals in me taking in 2 servings of it a day(2 scoops=1serving for Muscle Milk).

I would say for you to do the same, break up the servings you take in throughout the day. Atleast that is for a whey protein. Also if you want to time realease it and slow absorbtion and increase your bodies intake add it in milk. But dont do that after the gym, that is the time you want to fuel it in as fast as possible.

[SilverRage]

Originally Posted by 20eclipse01

Yes you can only absorb a certain amount at once. But that depends on a factor of things. It the blend strictly soy?egg?whey?casien? All of which have different absorbtion rates. How much your body can actually absorb at once varies. Then the simple fact you dont actually absord 100% of the protein you take it.

So while you are taking in 50gm, you might only be absorbing 35-40gm of it. The goal really is, is to at no point have your body starving for nutrients. For that reason i break my shakes up periodicly throughout the day. I have Muscle Milk for instance and i do 1 scoop in the morning, before workout, after workout, and before bed. So that totals in me taking in 2 servings of it a day(2 scoops=1serving for Muscle Milk).

I would say for you to do the same, break up the servings you take in throughout the day. Atleast that is for a whey protein. Also if you want to time realease it and slow absorbtion and increase your bodies intake add it in milk. But dont do that after the gym, that is the time you want to fuel it in as fast as possible.

Well its hard to break it up when im working fulltime, I have been doing one half serving in the morning with milk, and a full serving with milk after the gym. Im gonna change to half a serving with water after the gym, and a half serving with milk right before bed. Think that would be better?

[SilverRage]

Bump for anybody who gives an ishh...lol

[Cam]

Actually i would take a large serving right after the gym in water, that is when it counts the most. Then either before bed or in the morning with milk. I think you will be fine then.

[SilverRage]

Well I take it in the morning as it is, half a serving (2 scoops with milk). Then I was taking a full serving after the gym with milk. Last night I changed it to a half serving with water after the gym and a half serving with milk before bed. Should I stick with my old routine?

[Cam]

I would say 2 scoops after gym and before bed is good. Do you work out later in the evening?

[SilverRage]

Originally Posted by 20eclipse01

I would say 2 scoops after gym and before bed is good. Do you work out later in the evening?

Yeah I workout after work, usually from 6 to 7:30 pm.

[Cam]

Originally Posted by SilverRage

Yeah I workout after work, usually from 6 to 7:30 pm.

Then your fine with the way you changed it.

[SilverRage]

Thanks for the information

[roadrage]

Originally Posted by ShineStreet3g

That's really good to hear, i was assuming that they didn't have that much regulations. I been using protein for the past two years. I don't have a problem with it and used many brands, i think the best tasting stuff so far is elite, it doesn't have any artificial sweetners, aspertame, or anything like that. It also has a digestive enzyme. I know i have a lot of it and the protein is stored upstairs in a cabinet where it is not hot. Here's the point im at right now.

6ft, 214lbs. Took this a few weeks ago.

Looking good, but I think you need to work your traps a little more

[Cam]

[Shelly]

I just tried the 20g Builder's Bar by Clif... in the chocolate mint flavor. By far better than any other bar I've had.

[ShineStreet3g]

Try the Elite protein whey mix. It's 28 grams a scoop. I buy the chocolate and mix 2 scoops with 12-16 ounces of skim milk. A litte over 50 g's of protein and tastes really good.

[Darko]

nearly 3 months with no posts, I'm going to unstick unless you guys feel the burning need to keep this stuck

[Anus!]

it doesn't have to be continually updated to still have good info in it.