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Old 07/17/2009, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I bought this car in may 2007 and up until this month i have been slowly working on it. Nothing special :
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Then i decided to go all out and try to cram a 3.8 6g75 from an 07 eclipse into it. So far the only person in the world to attempt this on a stock computer. I drove about 2 1/2 hours to pick this thing up from the scrapyard.

Its from a 2007 eclipse with almost 1000 miles on it. Nice lookin engine if you saw what was left of the car it came out of.


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Out With the old


And in with the new:


The finished project:


Here are some of the parts that had to be modified for the swap:
First and most obvious the ignition issue was solved by using the distributor from the 6g72 with spacer in place of the stock 6g75 cam position sensor. The mounting location:

Mocked up, as you can see there is a need for another 1/2 inch of metal in there.

The plate that was made to fill the space.


The location of the distributor is now in the way of the waterneck. It had to be modified to fit:



Also the 75 has no sender for the coolant temp gauge so the one from the 72 needs to be added.



Next up is the crank position sensor. This is a direct swap from the 72. Swap over the sprocket and the sensor itself.
from the 75

from the 72


The stock 75 fuel rail does not have a return as on those cars it is built into the tank. So one needs to be added.

I chose to cut mine up and make it with the return on the other end of the rail for equal pressure across all the injectors. Not necessary i just did it for future FI plans.


The throttle body needs to be swapped also as the 75 uses drive by wire so its all electronic. I used the diamante one i had from a previous project. There is no place to mount the throttle cable on the 75 intake manifold so i made one using the egr solenoid mounting bolts. You may notice the orientation of the TB 90 degrees from where it normally is. This was for clearance issues.


The EGR solinoid on the 75 is also electronic so you must use the one from the 72 it is a direct fit.

More pics and info as i get time to post it up.

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Old 07/17/2009, 07:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting to see a 4g engine in a 3g. I'd like to see how it all works out for you.
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Interesting to see a 4g engine in a 3g. I'd like to see how it all works out for you.
i agree /\. This might be the first i have heard of this being done. Hope it works out for you. Good luck.
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I hope this works out. Post a video of the start up if you can please. Any plans for forced induction?
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correct me if im wrong on this but doesnt pharm already have this motor in our platform and its up and running?
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correct me if im wrong on this but doesnt pharm already have this motor in our platform and its up and running?
I think you are right. It's in his 2g Stratus I believe, but I'm not sure if he has it up and running yet...does he?
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correct me if im wrong on this but doesnt pharm already have this motor in our platform and its up and running?

The last time i read, he didn't have it running yet. He was still waiting on some parts and his EMS to get back from being repaired.

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The last time i read, he didn't have it running yet. He was still waiting on some parts and his EMS to get back from being repaired.

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I thought that was the case. Even so, definitely a LOT of work to do a 6g75 swap. Well... a lot of work in general for engine swaps.

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Pharm is also doing this swap but he is using an ems whereas i am using the stock 3g computer. So far we are both waiting on parts and neither has started the car yet.

And yes any swap requires a lot of work but this is feasible IMO for someone that would attempt the 6G74 swap. Its a bit more expensive though.

Yes the plan is to turbo next year the way i had originally planed on this year. I even have two turbos laying around that i bought in January.
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looks to be an assload of wires to deal with
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looks to be an assload of wires to deal with
Believe it or not the wiring is done now and that was one of the easier parts to this whole thing
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Pharm is also doing this swap but he is using an ems whereas i am using the stock 3g computer. So far we are both waiting on parts and neither has started the car yet.

And yes any swap requires a lot of work but this is feasible IMO for someone that would attempt the 6G74 swap. Its a bit more expensive though.

Yes the plan is to turbo next year the way i had originally planed on this year. I even have two turbos laying around that i bought in January.
Well I hope everything turns out well for you and pharm. Thumbs up to both of you for doing the swap.
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Well... to me.. the neon is , but, the swap is pretty daring. Looks like its all coming together. Goodluck.
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I don't think it's possible to run this engine on the stock computer. But I hate to be a naysayer. Prove us wrong! Good luck with the project
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Looking forward to how this turns out. I've had the idea of doing this for awhile.
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I was able to get it to start without the waterneck i only let it run for about 2 min, Just to see if it would. It ran like s*** though its not getting enough fuel for some reason. I should have a vid tomorrow after i get some tuning done.
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good luck with it. After watching over Pharms thread I don't see only using the stock computer either. Keep everything detailed, thanks.
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I have pics on all the parts i swapped and made to make it work. Im not gonna post them till i have mine 100% done.

And like i said over there i cant run the mivec with the stock computer. I have Greddy for that issue. Right now it on a ricer switch till i have the money for the MSS
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Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks a 6g72 valve train and injectors make a lot of noise. You should hear this thing. Whole lot of ticking going on on there somewhere.
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This is awesome. Hopefully you get it running good soon.
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Good job on the progress so far. Can't wait to see pics and videos of the car running and driving.
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Sounds about like the 4B11 in the X. Nice and noisy injectors.
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Well it running now, turns out there was just air in the fuel rail. The video is in the 3.8 swap thread. Its not the best thanks to my cell phone but its proof.
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Well it running now, turns out there was just air in the fuel rail. The video is in the 3.8 swap thread. Its not the best thanks to my cell phone but its proof.
Congrats man! Good luck with it
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Good job man! That's awesome!
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Great job! Cant wait to hear more info. Let us know when you take it for a spin or have you?

Now lets see some dyno runs, to see how it runs without the Mivec for now.
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Great job! Cant wait to hear more info. Let us know when you take it for a spin or have you?

Now lets see some dyno runs, to see how it runs without the Mivec for now.
I drove it last night for like an hour and i plan on taking it to school today, after all its my DD. Dyno is a bit far off yet until i get some more money ill shoot for sometime in augest. and i can use the mivec whenever i want to i just have to activate it manually.
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I drove it last night for like an hour and i plan on taking it to school today, after all its my DD. Dyno is a bit far off yet until i get some more money ill shoot for sometime in augest. and i can use the mivec whenever i want to i just have to activate it manually.
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It idles smoother than the 72 that was in the car. Its not missing or anything. Hell its practically a new engine.
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I drove it last night for like an hour and i plan on taking it to school today, after all its my DD. Dyno is a bit far off yet until i get some more money ill shoot for sometime in augest. and i can use the mivec whenever i want to i just have to activate it manually.
When you say you activate it manually does that you can turn it on throughout the entire rpm range or only after a set rpm?
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When you say you activate it manually does that you can turn it on throughout the entire rpm range or only after a set rpm?
It will engage whenever i press the ricer button on the shifter. When i drive round town i rarely get to 4000 rpm point where the stock crossover would be anyway so its not like ill use it that much.
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It will engage whenever i press the ricer button on the shifter. When i drive round town i rarely get to 4000 rpm point where the stock crossover would be anyway so its not like ill use it that much.
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How does your button work? I guess I don't understand how it can engage the mivec. Is it hooked to your e-manage or something?
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How does your button work? I guess I don't understand how it can engage the mivec. Is it hooked to your e-manage or something?
The mivec system is basically turned on and off by 2 solenoids one in each head. When the solenoid is engaged it allows oil pressure to flow into the mechanism that engages the high lift rockers. At least that's the way i understood it works. When it engages there is an audible difference in the exhaust tone.
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The mivec system is basically turned on and off by 2 solenoids one in each head. When the solenoid is engaged it allows oil pressure to flow into the mechanism that engages the high lift rockers. At least that's the way i understood it works. When it engages there is an audible difference in the exhaust tone.
i've actually seen something like this. i was in a civic del sol vtec, and the owner had a ricer button to manually control the vtec. there really was a considerable difference in exhaust tone for sure.

anyway, great job on the swap! please keep us updated
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~$2400 ish For engine, parts, fluids ect. If I could weld i would have saved like $250 of that. Thats also with $1800 on the engine alone. There is still the Greddy MSS that's gonna be like another $200 or so.

Still more bang for your buck than turbo 72
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Turbo is on the agenda for next year. Im not made of money. And i will show the dyno results when i put the car on one.
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Its on my list of meets to go to next year if it is held. Now that the car is actually worth showing people.
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Now correct me if I am wrong, but you have a Greedy system running the motor, why not a Haltech?
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haha no i am using the stock 3g computer for the engine, that is why the swap is so different from everyone elses. And the haltech is on the list when i go to a standalone system.
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I bought a new toy today.


Looks like i might be going the s/c rout instead of turbo.
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