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Old 06/17/2007, 01:41 AM   #61 (permalink)
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A few issues i dont like are the fact that you have nothing protecting your radiator hose from getting really hot and busting. You should upgrade to a lower thermostat. put your manifold heat shield back on. Your radiator is getting heat soaked from your turbo and manifold. Gotta do something about it. I think you should get your DP jet coated. IT will prolong it plus lower your under hood temps. Change out your radiator fluid. Get a antifreeze bottle and fill about a 1/3 of it with antifreeze and the rest distilled water. Add a complete bottle of redline water wetter to the bottle before pouring it into your radiator. Take out the 5mph bump stop between your front bumper and bumper cover. That should help with some airflow. Take off the weather stripping on the rear of your engine bay. THis allows about a 1/4 of space between the hood and the engine bay so heat can excape out the rear. After looking at it where are your radiator fans?
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A few issues i dont like are the fact that you have nothing protecting your radiator hose from getting really hot and busting. You should upgrade to a lower thermostat. put your manifold heat shield back on. Your radiator is getting heat soaked from your turbo and manifold. Gotta do something about it. I think you should get your DP jet coated. IT will prolong it plus lower your under hood temps. Change out your radiator fluid. Get a antifreeze bottle and fill about a 1/3 of it with antifreeze and the rest distilled water. Add a complete bottle of redline water wetter to the bottle before pouring it into your radiator. Take out the 5mph bump stop between your front bumper and bumper cover. That should help with some airflow. Take off the weather stripping on the rear of your engine bay. THis allows about a 1/4 of space between the hood and the engine bay so heat can excape out the rear. After looking at it where are your radiator fans?
I have one trimline fan and I'm gonna install 2 10" pusher fans in front. I'm thinking of the greddy radiator hoses and I've been searching for a lower thermostat. Do you have a Number for one? Thanks for any help
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greg has the number. You should wrap your hose with some header wrap asap. Install those fans now or kiss your car goodbye
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As long as he's not overheating big time he will be fine. The cast pistons are much more resistant to heat than forged pistons are. Todd had already purchased a fan but it ended up being too big. He's taking care of it.
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greg has the number. You should wrap your hose with some header wrap asap. Install those fans now or kiss your car goodbye
I have regular header wrap from summit I can use. I don't drive the car a lot but I noticed it gets hot in stop and go situations. I want to install a boost cooler to see if that helps since I have no intercooler. I ran against a cobalt tonight and I noticed the temp going up so I backed off quick. I should have my new fans by the middle of the week. I need to talk to greg about wiring them up.
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As long as he's not overheating big time he will be fine. The cast pistons are much more resistant to heat than forged pistons are. Todd had already purchased a fan but it ended up being too big. He's taking care of it.
If you have a lower thermostat number maybe you can hook me up. Oh I never got down to pick up my cover and stuff. Maybe we can meet up tomorrow. For some reason it heated up past the halfway mark tonight and it was the first time running it hard tonight.

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How far above the 1/2 way mark? 1/2 way is normal. You really need a logger Todd so you can watch actual values. The gauge will stay in the same place even with 30 degree temperature fluctuations.

I honestly don't have a lower thermostat number to give you or I would.
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How far above the 1/2 way mark? 1/2 way is normal. You really need a logger Todd so you can watch actual values. The gauge will stay in the same place even with 30 degree temperature fluctuations.

I honestly don't have a lower thermostat number to give you or I would.

I got one. Has only 2-3 month of use. I changed everything when I redid the heads. I tested the new 82 degree (Celsius) with the old one in a pot of water and they both reacted the same. So it is yours Todd if you want it.

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Ill tell you this again. Get that coolling system fixed NOW!!!!!! you should also look into getting a vented hood. Im just waiting on a good deal for a evo hood
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I didn't need one. It was just a bad connection. On that note I just bought a sony Vaio so all I need now is the Evoscan from Greg.
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I just installed all my wideband info plus I downloaded the EvoScan and bought the cable. Now I need to hook up with Repforenzo (Phil) and maybe I can get my car to act up.
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I just installed all my wideband info plus I downloaded the EvoScan and bought the cable. Now I need to hook up with Repforenzo (Phil) and maybe I can get my car to act up.
I'm happy to. I'm just out of town until the weekend.
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I found one of rulez old post and found a 170 degree thermostat. I'm getting ready to go pick one up. I'm still waiting on my fans which should have been here already but today isn't over yet. My heat shields are dry and ready to be put back on and my down pipe is wrapped (that was a bitch to do on the car). Of course my car acted up again today and I haven't recieved my cable yet. I'm hoping it doesn't have anything to do with my secondary injectors. Come one Cable!!
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The 170 should be OK. But keep this in mind: the car is designed to run at a specific temperature. If it runs too cool, you'll start to build up carbon. The heat from the turbo and the back pressure will help you in your case. I think you would have been fine with the 180.
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The 170 should be OK. But keep this in mind: the car is designed to run at a specific temperature. If it runs too cool, you'll start to build up carbon. The heat from the turbo and the back pressure will help you in your case. I think you would have been fine with the 180.
Ok, I'll just have to get that one from you if you still have it. I'll give you a call some time tomorrow to see what your plans are. Can't wait to get my cable so I can start datalogging it. I hook up my labtop to my wideband to check it out and it seems pretty easy to use.
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I met up with Phil and got the lower thermostat he had and got it put in. Thanks to him I'm running about 10 to 13 degrees cooler. I data logged some runs after I put in the lower thermostat and compared them to some runs from yesterday and I'm staying around 200-203 now compared to 210-214 at times. I also checked my knock count on the graph and my highest count was 8, thats if I'm reading it right.
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I forgot to mention I installed a greddy oil catch can and sanded off the bullshit high temp paint that didn't work and pretty much polished it a little here some new pics. If you look to the left of the intake manifold you'll see the catch can mounted to the firewall



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looks good im following the same route as you. I just need to my split second controller and injector bungs then im good
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I met up with Phil and got the lower thermostat he had and got it put in. Thanks to him I'm running about 10 to 13 degrees cooler. I data logged some runs after I put in the lower thermostat and compared them to some runs from yesterday and I'm staying around 200-203 now compared to 210-214 at times.
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I also checked my knock count on the graph and my highest count was 8, thats if I'm reading it right.
Not good. Send me that log (excel) via e-mail so I can look at it.
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great numbers man, i love this car. What do you have next on the list. Btw, if you don't mind me asking, how much would it cost to run an identical setup to what you have? I would have greg do it of course, i already have it lined up for him to work on my car for me. I am wondering if this setup would be safe on GTS motor??
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Well today I had some bad luck. I was driving to work in my car (cause I'm having issues with my truck) and I start to make a left hand turn and the whole left side drops down on the tire and my car stops dead. I get out and look underneath and I see axle fluid, it was riped out the inner joint:


Once It was up on the truck, the tire rack, I noticed the lower control arm, where the ball joint goes through the arm ripped out:


I'm gonna call my insurance company back tomorrow cause they never called back. My car was in a accident before and kept hearing a noise from that side but they never heard it when they drove it. The axle ended up busting on that side before about a year after the repairs were done. This is not gonna be pretty!
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thats sucks man when i first started to read the post im thinking you blew the motor. Quick question are you running a aftermarket fpr
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thats sucks man when i first started to read the post im thinking you blew the motor. Quick question are you running a aftermarket fpr
Not yet! that will be when I have the rest of my money for my build but this has put me back right now. Yea I have a 1:1 aeromotive, you can but it from Tearstone.com

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I should be getting my car back by the end of the week. I'm getting new tires so I can get my car back to normal now. I have a little one on the way so I'm getting a boostcooler and try to hook up with phil and up it to 7psi for now and the rest is being saved for my kid and the wedding in October. I'll post pics next weekend
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I should be getting my car back by the end of the week. I'm getting new tires so I can get my car back to normal now. I have a little one on the way so I'm getting a boostcooler and try to hook up with phil and up it to 7psi for now and the rest is being saved for my kid and the wedding in October. I'll post pics next weekend
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hey i have been readin this post and i love it..but i have a question..i have been looking all over and yes i have used the search to try and find a turbo kit fo my 3.0 gt...is there anyway you can help me out...from the pics you have it does not seem to me that you have a turbo manifold..well if you can help me out let me know..thanks...and the car is lookin good..
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It is a Y-pipe. It connects the two stock manifolds, and routes the exhaust to the turbo.
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so on the y pipe the 2 manifolds go into one side of the y and the ehaust from the turbo goes into the other side?? and once those are connected to the y, you connect the back of the y to the exhaust right..just want to know if i am getting this right...and the other pipe all the way on the right,that is the one that connects to the filter right..everything else i am good on..i just love this set-up..so let me know..thanks for everything..
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Alright let me see if i can clear things up...with a visual. Here is a picture of a Y-pipe. If spuds didn't change it, it should be the same one.


-The flange outlined in blue connects to the bank 2 exhaust manifold (Front one).
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Thanks for the quick answer Adam! Planning a wedding takes a lot of my free time right now.
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Interesting kit. Is this the one Greg plans on producing? Get the issue with your axle and control arm sorted out? And congrats on your upcoming wedding.
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Thanks on the congrats! That Y pipe is from an old X-Tech kit that Russ (Tearstone) had made for our car. Greg just installed everything and fabricated the rest of the piping including the downpipe. I'm sure Greg's kit may be similar but hopefully it will be all stainless steel (including the Y pipe). As for my car they are having trouble finding me an axle and will only pay for a rebuilt one and not one from the dealer. Maybe Greg will come through with a axle for me if they can't find one. Also if you look at this pic you can sort of see the the pipe coming from the rear manifold and connecting to the front:
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She's back home here are some pics parked in the garage just cause I was happy. Like the old time wheel balancer? It still works and I have plenty of weights if anyone needs a balance!
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Well my SES light came on and I thought I fixed it so I plugged in the scanner and it was P0300. Is this what I think it means?? I think the bodyshop ran the AC when I told them not to. I think they overheated my car. Any help is appreciated.
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multiple misfire problem. Who knows what they might have led unpluged. Check your oil and tell me if its creamy at all
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No I check it when I first got it back and no Antifreeze or anything abnormal. I just put in a Optima battery cause the other one died but thats it.
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LOL. well that makes sense then. Your ecu was reset and is now fighting the battle with the emanage.
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LOL. well that makes sense then. Your ecu was reset and is now fighting the battle with the emanage.
I have the ECU flashed for timing and a Split second controller to add fuel to the secondary injectors under boost. It could be messing with that
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Just a little update. I noticed my Fuel pressure gauge was dropping when I turned off my car. First time it went to 30psi then it went to 0psi then around 20psi. Could this be the reason my Air fuel ratio is going crazy, because of a fuel problem? Also if I'm right, isn't the gauge suppose to stay at what ever it's set at or am I wrong? Anyone have any input cause my car has been possessed lately and I really don't want to drive it and hurt it.
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I wouldn't worry too much about fuel pressure when the car is off. What is it when the car is warm and idling? You should be around 39 psi with vacuum and about 50 psi without. What are your AFR readings currently?
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Thanks, I have one run on video but it's not a digital camcorder. My air fuel has been staying at 14.7 but sometimes after I speed up a little and then drive normal it drops to 20.4 and the car seems like it wants to stall. I'll give it a little gas and have to mess with the pedal to get it to stay at 14.7. I'm going to the track Friday and might do a run or 2 and log them.
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Thanks, I have one run on video but it's not a digital camcorder. My air fuel has been staying at 14.7 but sometimes after I speed up a little and then drive normal it drops to 20.4 and the car seems like it wants to stall. I'll give it a little gas and have to mess with the pedal to get it to stay at 14.7. I'm going to the track Friday and might do a run or 2 and log them.

That is typical after the ECU is reset with your car FIed. But it should go way fairly soon. You should not be still having that issue. And you would go to the track when I'm out of town!
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Just an update. Well since I'm married now and the wife is 4 months along, the fun had to stop for a little. I can't wait untill she has it cause she is driving me nuts! any way my car is running pretty good but my air/fuel is still acting up a little but not to much. Watch its gonna act up next time I drive it. The other day I hit the gas to make a left turn, before the light turned red, and the BOV went off kinda loud and the car shut off. This is not the first time this has happened, twice at the same intersection. I checked the hose and it was on tight so I'm kinda of confused about this because I don't know what else would cause it to shut off like that. I might try to go to the track friday if it doesn't rain. since I didn't go the last time I was suppose to.
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Todd, it may be nothing but I wouldn't recommend racing with that slight stalling issue.
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were u getting on it when the bov went off? What was ur boost gauge reading? Theres a chance that your turbo/wastegate/boost controller might not be working right and causing a boost spike or surge
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I was on it about half throttle for a couple of seconds and was only at 3psi or a little more. I don't have a boost controller hooked up to it yet, I'm just running wastegate pressure. I'll have to hold off on the racing. I was poking around today and noticed I have a little bit of a fuel leak at the T for the additional injectors. I'll have to hop on that ASAP.
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Sounds like going turbo has been more trouble than what it's worth for you.

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Sounds like going turbo has been more trouble than what it's worth for you.
I'll tell you that the SDS is not any better in terms of reliability. FIing this platform takes a major commitment. Even when you think you are 'done', you really aren't.
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I been thinking between 18'' x8 RIMS and 19'' x 7.5..+ I see you Installed a 1.75 B&G springs 1.75" Lower ? does your Wheels Fit well ? what about BUMPS and Turns ?
19'' Looks Awesome.. but here I have one more question, about Rotors are the 12.5'' Rotors posibly required with 19'' Rims ? Sorry I'm too LAME just got my 2003 GTS.
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I hope you get all the problems worked out.
It runs good. Just a thing or two that needs to be fixed and It will be good again. The car has been a daily driven car until 2 weeks ago (now my water pump went up in the civic I just bought) and with @ 10,000 miles on this setup, it has been running awesome compared to other 3G FI issues I've read about. I'm not turning back now!
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19'' Looks Awesome.. but here I have one more question, about Rotors are the 12.5'' Rotors posibly required with 19'' Rims ? Sorry I'm too LAME just got my 2003 GTS.
My wheels fit fine. They rub a little when I cut the wheel all the way like to make a U-Turn. You need atleast 17" to put the power slot upsized rotors on
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My wheels fit fine. They rub a little when I cut the wheel all the way like to make a U-Turn. You need atleast 17" to put the power slot upsized rotors on
I'm gonna chnge some parts anyway, like KYB AGX SHOCKS & SPRINGS w/ 1.8'' Drop, Just wanted to Make Sure that 19'' will fit fine, Otherwise I'm gonna put a CAMBER KIT to avoid the rub.
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I'm gonna chnge some parts anyway, like KYB AGX SHOCKS & SPRINGS w/ 1.8'' Drop, Just wanted to Make Sure that 19'' will fit fine, Otherwise I'm gonna put a CAMBER KIT to avoid the rub.
A camber kit won't stop the rub but it will save some life on your tires. Well my update is that my car has not moved it 3 weeks and I have a Antifreeze leak and I can't see where it is coming from. It looks like it could be one of the lines going to the firewall (heater core?) or its maybe where the thermostat housing bolts to the rear head I've been working a lot of OT so I've only had a little time to mess with it. I had all the turbo piping off and could see jack. It doesn't leak until the car warms up and the thermostat opens and you can hear a hissing sound and see antifreeze dripping from underneath the distributor. I think I'm just gonna call Greg and see if he'll fix it for me. After changing my distributor and then the water pump, I think I need a little break on working on cars for right now anyway. Who knows I might buy an EVO or a 2G eclipse and sell this one
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