First AWD 3rd Gen Eclipse

bluebomber · 04/22/2007, 11:14 PM

I present to you the first All Wheel Drive 3rd Generation Eclipse "Eclipse Evolution"

For more pictures go to BlueEclipse.net.

Video - YouTube - First AWD 3rd Gen Eclipse

BlueEclipse.net

ahspimp023 · 04/22/2007, 11:21 PM

Yeah I have read about this, is this yours.

supergouki · 04/22/2007, 11:25 PM

what kind of rims are those?

bluebomber · 04/22/2007, 11:30 PM

Uh... yeah, its mine, my pride and joy.

They are sport max wheels.

McLarenross · 04/22/2007, 11:31 PM

Gonna need more details on the conversion man. What rear end? What Gas tank? What mods to get the rear end in place? Custom driveshaft? Hows it drive? That exhaust must be really low run under the driveshaft. What rear suspension are you using?

LUNAR · 04/22/2007, 11:42 PM

Yeah I remember reading your thread in the other forum. I actually like it.

Needs to be lowered some. And get your pics fixed. Only 5 of them opened. The rest were no good.

rocketbass88 · 04/22/2007, 11:48 PM

The car is pretty sick. I have to say though, that graphic is SO tasteless it hurts me to look at it. You did all the right stuff, got the Stratus doors, molded the kit, and then you go and slap some corny sticker on the side? I just don't understand. I think your car would be GREATLY improved if you removed that thing. The chrome tails need to go too. Black would be MUCH nicer.

bluebomber · 04/22/2007, 11:54 PM

For the record, those are not stickers, it is painted on there, I do not believe in vinyls. The doors are Eclipse but just fully shaved.

crpearce · 04/22/2007, 11:58 PM

Just because of the fact that this is the first AWD 3G Eclipse, I will say that I do not mind the graphics at all. With such a labor-intensive modification as an AWD swap is, you are free to do just about anything you want. Ahaha, anyways, the car looks great, and awesome work with the AWD.

rocketbass88 · 04/23/2007, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebomber

For the record, those are not stickers, it is painted on there, I do not believe in vinyls. The doors are Eclipse but just fully shaved.

Ouch. IMO, that was not a good move. I think the car would be drop dead gorgeous if that graphic wasn't there and you had black tails.

LUNAR · 04/23/2007, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketbass88

Ouch. IMO, that was not a good move. I think the car would be drop dead gorgeous if that graphic wasn't there and you had black tails.

CujoJpN · 04/23/2007, 12:19 AM

Now post a how-to guide to help out the community!

EclipseMan · 04/23/2007, 12:29 AM

The bodykit / paintjob is really cool. Those rims are nice too. Cool AWD setup.

rippedeclipse · 04/23/2007, 08:16 PM

very nice work

00TampaBlueGS · 04/23/2007, 08:38 PM

Great pics, Mike. Congrats on finishing out the exhaust. The duallies look great.

The "graphic" works quite well with your theme, as do the chrome tails. Don't worry too much over the more outspoken members here and their preference for understated/subdued 3G's. They haven't seen the Bomber in person!

Very nice show car/garage queen.

xxtrurida75xx · 04/23/2007, 08:48 PM

nice car man, congrats on being the first.

Special_K · 04/23/2007, 09:10 PM

Looks like a lot of work, but congrats on a job well done. I like it.

3gEclipseRS · 04/23/2007, 09:16 PM

Awesome car! Great work on the awd conversion.

Chief Brody · 04/23/2007, 09:31 PM

Nice work. Be sure to stop by the FI forums and share your knowledge.

smack682 · 04/23/2007, 09:42 PM

Thats amazing work. A more informative write-up on the build process would be really cool. Congrats!

NiteRyd · 04/23/2007, 10:15 PM

Nice job, but seems like an awful lot of work. Personally I would have just gone out and got an AWD vehicle but to each their own. How's it drive?

snake · 04/23/2007, 10:37 PM

Good job, post some track launches when you can.

Eclipse_kid · 04/23/2007, 11:11 PM

yo man.............

I LOVE YOUR CAR, theres no other way to put it, like everyone else said, a HOW TO post would be good.

I would buy a beater car and go this route, ff i knew how

callmeebryan · 04/24/2007, 12:06 AM

Great job man!

I remember Pharm saying that you were using a 2g GSX rear end, but did you end up fixing that problem? I sure hope so, because a Evo8 tranny with a GSX rear end just wont work out...

. Just wondering...

np2fast · 04/24/2007, 12:31 AM

Sites down and pics are not working. Youtube link is still good.

Rebel1088 · 04/24/2007, 01:20 AM

now to see if extra weight and increased traction stress on axles hold up and perform as any other AWD would

awesome job man, keep us posted!

LUNAR · 04/24/2007, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebomber

I have to say that shot of the rear is badass looking. Those duals look alot better than I thought. Very well done.

Oh and since your car is the first awd 3rd Gen. I'll let the chrome tails and graphics slide.

mstabil · 04/24/2007, 03:31 AM

Car of the Month

Nice car...how much did you spend for AWD conversion?

bluebomber · 04/24/2007, 10:21 AM

I know this is what you all want and will answer a 100 questions

Here is my list of non 3G Parts used for the swap:

2G rear subframe
2G Control Arms
2G Rear Axles
2G Gas tank
2G Diff Plate
2G Diff Hub
2G E-brakes
Evo 8 Trany
Evo 8 Transfer case
Evo 8 Drive Shaft
Evo 8 Front Axles
Evo 8 Front Knuckles
Evo 8 Rear Diff
Evo 8 Oil pan
Evo 8 Starter
Evo 8 Brakes
Evo 8 FlyWheel, ACT
Evo 8 Clutch, ACT
Evo 8 Clutch Slave

That's Everything I can think of from the top of my head.

callmeebryan · 04/24/2007, 10:30 AM

Yeh, just to me it looks like the front wheels are spinning faster than the rear ones, but i guess thats my mind playing tricks.

crpearce · 04/24/2007, 11:19 AM

I noticed that too, but I thought it was all in my head as well.

superfueled · 04/24/2007, 12:26 PM

AWD isn't alway 50/50 distribution I don't think....I just figured, more power to the front than the rear. I know some of the old subaru's in auto were 50/50 but stick shift they were 40/60 with more going to the rear.

rocketbass88 · 04/24/2007, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfueled

AWD isn't alway 50/50 distribution I don't think....I just figured, more power to the front than the rear. I know some of the old subaru's in auto were 50/50 but stick shift they were 40/60 with more going to the rear.

This is correct. Usually the more "performance oriented" the AWD is, the more power goes to the rear. The more "safety oriented" the AWD is, the more power goes to the front.

buttercup · 04/24/2007, 01:09 PM

thats awesome man!

callmeebryan · 04/24/2007, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfueled

AWD isn't alway 50/50 distribution I don't think....I just figured, more power to the front than the rear. I know some of the old subaru's in auto were 50/50 but stick shift they were 40/60 with more going to the rear.

That is refering to torque, not the gear ratio of the differential.... two totally different things.

In AWD cars, there is a center diff that will distribute torque 40%f/60%r or however.... it works much like a LSD in the front or the rear... So if say you motor puts out 300ftlb torque, at full throttle 60% of that will transfer to the rear differential, 40% of that will transfer to the front differential... (arbitrarily)

In an AWD car, you need the front and rear differential gear ratios to be exactly the same (atleast in a street car) or else you will burn up the transmission amongst other things.

bluebomber · 04/24/2007, 02:05 PM

Well one thing is for sure the Front Evo axles are bigger than the rear, which I would suspect that more power is delivered to the front than the rear. As for my setup the trany transfer case and rear diff are from the same doner car so all gearing is the same.

HIJACKER · 04/24/2007, 02:13 PM

I admire the amount of effort and craftsmanship that went into this project 100%, however, I just don't understand the purpose of it on a 3G. Unless you're delivering some serious power to warrant AWD, it's pretty much pointless in my eyes.

Either way.. good work.

00TampaBlueGS · 04/24/2007, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HIJACKER

I admire the amount of effort and craftsmanship that went into this project 100%, however, I just don't understand the purpose of it on a 3G. Unless you're delivering some serious power to warrant AWD, it's pretty much pointless in my eyes.

Either way.. good work.

Steve.

As the owner of a show-only 3G, surely you can understand his purpose. Mike now has the notoriety of being the first documented AWD 3G, a valuable thing at car shows.
Not to mention, he's installed turbo in HIS showcar.

(A very clean setup it is, as well.)
He's likely got more "serious power" to his wheels than yours, and with two fewer cylinders!

You're right, though. It seems a rather labor-intensive conversion to tackle... and it is some good work he's done.

icemanrld19 · 04/24/2007, 05:18 PM

Magizine articles will love the first AWD 3g and the fact im pretty sure he will be putting down alot of power in the future. It just proves that theres never a end to moding

permalink · 04/24/2007, 05:33 PM

In the face of all the negative attitudes and doubtful eclipse owners, you have created something very special.

Well done....

BEISSEN · 04/24/2007, 06:10 PM

get some vidsup with it running on the street not on jack stands it would be great to actully hear it run on the street.I have to agree with 00tampabluegs that his car is alot better in respects to being AWD and how can you say its pointless when you spent 5g in your trunk some would say that was a waste as he is the first and a pioneer so far with the AWD 3G.

alucard · 04/24/2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HIJACKER

I admire the amount of effort and craftsmanship that went into this project 100%, however, I just don't understand the purpose of it on a 3G. Unless you're delivering some serious power to warrant AWD, it's pretty much pointless in my eyes.

Either way.. good work.

i agree 100% with you, i could never see the purpose of putting so much money into a 3g or any car for that matter.

superGT · 04/24/2007, 07:01 PM

Read this over on .org.. I'm like everybody else.. I'd like to see some videos out on the street or track with some dyno numbers or something.

All in all tho' ... very impressive!!

00TampaBlueGS · 04/24/2007, 07:15 PM

Yeah, his thread on the .org is actually my only bookmark to over there.

We'll do better with the pics and video for next meet. The 14th caught most of us with little documenting equipment. (read: few cameras & dead batteries)
I'm interested in some dyno numbers as well. I saw a sheet from before the conversion, but it'd be a great addition for the next show... an AWD dyno sheet!

HIJACKER · 04/24/2007, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00TampaBlueGS

an AWD dyno sheet!

That's what I would like to see.

bluebomber · 04/24/2007, 08:02 PM

I will try to have one for the next show.

00TampaBlueGS · 04/24/2007, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebomber

I will try to have one for the next show.

????
Which is ____.
????

Since you don't want to answer my PM, apparently. Despite checking this thread overandoverandover today...

bluebomber · 04/24/2007, 08:33 PM

Dreams To Reality Tour

May 20th – 2nd Annual Spring Dust Off at Dashworks
Location: 49th and Peoria
Move-In: 9am-12pm
Show: 11am-5pm
Entry is $20

This is one of them there are a whole bunch on the 19th, just don't know which to attend.

bluebomber · 04/24/2007, 08:37 PM

Heres a good list of local events
http://unifiedproductions.com/forums...splay.php?f=27

BEISSEN · 04/25/2007, 05:19 AM

How about a street vid of it actually rolling that would be nice also.

Mitsuboy1102 · 04/25/2007, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebomber

Dreams To Reality Tour

May 20th – 2nd Annual Spring Dust Off at Dashworks
Location: 49th and Peoria
Move-In: 9am-12pm
Show: 11am-5pm
Entry is $20

This is one of them there are a whole bunch on the 19th, just don't know which to attend.

You now I will be there, I might just might even put mine in the show just for shits a and grins.

But great work on the pipes man they look kick-ass. We should try to get a miny meet together my girlie would love to see your car. And I would love to see how it runs and sounds.

Shadow · 04/25/2007, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icemanrld19

Magizine articles will love the first AWD 3g and the fact im pretty sure he will be putting down alot of power in the future. It just proves that theres never a end to moding

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboBoostMan

In the face of all the negative attitudes and doubtful eclipse owners, you have created something very special.

Well done....

I agree with all the positive comments. If I could make one suggestion, Lower it more and maybe get19's for it. Also, I like how the molding came out.
Goodjob!!

Circuit · 04/25/2007, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow

I agree with all the positive comments. If I could make one suggestion, Lower it more and maybe get19's for it. Also, I like how the molding came out.
Goodjob!!

I would also put some upgrades into the audio system. All that Legacy/Audiobahn crap is super

.

00TampaBlueGS · 04/25/2007, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitsuboy1102

You now I will be there, I might just might even put mine in the show just for shits a and grins.

But great work on the pipes man they look kick-ass. We should try to get a miny meet together my girlie would love to see your car. And I would love to see how it runs and sounds.

Yep. I'm down, and should be prepared for another show entry myself by that weekend (May 19th/20th).

It may even behoove Mike to have a couple of essentially stock 3Gs near his to compare the level/number of modifications he's done.

Mini meet? Well, Greg's place is a quick drive south into Wheatridge. I'll bet the Red Beast and Blue Bomber would get along famously! Let's discuss this further in the Southwest Regional section, shall we? This thread is for our new friend to present his ride, not for meet planning.

LLDre · 04/25/2007, 01:57 PM

Looks much better in person, any luck adding some ICE like you planned?

Regulator · 04/25/2007, 02:13 PM

Thank you for doing this

You did an AMAZING job on everything

t0t4leclipse · 04/25/2007, 02:54 PM

lmao i love that exhaust

lilbttrcup · 04/25/2007, 03:05 PM

the Gear ratios should be right from what i see, the trans, transfer case, and rear diff are all from the evoVIII so he shouldnt have any problems there

Im a 2g guy learning about 3g's on here because my girlfriend and another friend both have one, hence the name. Now i not only have to know about GSTs and GSXs, but also GSs and GTSs its going to get confusing soon im sure of it

drelo · 04/25/2007, 03:30 PM

Excellent job on everything. Hats off to you.

alfbocanegra · 04/25/2007, 03:54 PM

Nice job... All we need now is a How-To thread.

04/22/2007, 11:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
bluebomber Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Vehicle: 03 AWD DOHC Turbo GSX Posts: 197	First AWD Turbo DOHC 3G Eclipse -new video added I present to you the first All Wheel Drive 3rd Generation Eclipse "Eclipse Evolution" For more pictures go to BlueEclipse.net. Video - YouTube - First AWD 3rd Gen Eclipse BlueEclipse.net __________________ Last edited by bluebomber; 11/16/2008 at 12:17 PM.

04/22/2007, 11:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
bluebomber Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Vehicle: 03 AWD DOHC Turbo GSX Posts: 197	Uh... yeah, its mine, my pride and joy. They are sport max wheels. __________________

04/22/2007, 11:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
McLarenross Ya feel ME??? Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Shepherd, Texas, USA!!!! (North of Houston a bit) Vehicle: 04 Cummins 4x4, 01 Spyder Posts: 3,928	Gonna need more details on the conversion man. What rear end? What Gas tank? What mods to get the rear end in place? Custom driveshaft? Hows it drive? That exhaust must be really low run under the driveshaft. What rear suspension are you using? __________________ Gig'em Aggies!!! My Spyder Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."~ Thomas Jefferson The inner circles of Hell are reserved for cheaters and betrayers. "Greater love hath no man, than to lay down his life for a friend" - Jesus. Last edited by McLarenross; 04/22/2007 at 11:36 PM.

04/22/2007, 11:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
LUNAR Never say never! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Midland MI Posts: 10,619	Yeah I remember reading your thread in the other forum. I actually like it. Needs to be lowered some. And get your pics fixed. Only 5 of them opened. The rest were no good. __________________ BACK FROM THE DEAD!

04/22/2007, 11:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
bluebomber Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Vehicle: 03 AWD DOHC Turbo GSX Posts: 197	For the record, those are not stickers, it is painted on there, I do not believe in vinyls. The doors are Eclipse but just fully shaved. __________________

04/22/2007, 11:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
ahspimp023 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Owensboro, Kentucky Vehicle: 13psi 6G72 Posts: 2,052	Yeah I have read about this, is this yours.

04/22/2007, 11:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
supergouki Mein Teil Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: NC Vehicle: 3G :idea: Posts: 5,607	what kind of rims are those?

04/22/2007, 11:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
rocketbass88 Ass To Mouth Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greeley, CO Vehicle: '86 CJ-7 Posts: 6,268	The car is pretty sick. I have to say though, that graphic is SO tasteless it hurts me to look at it. You did all the right stuff, got the Stratus doors, molded the kit, and then you go and slap some corny sticker on the side? I just don't understand. I think your car would be GREATLY improved if you removed that thing. The chrome tails need to go too. Black would be MUCH nicer.

04/22/2007, 11:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
crpearce Christopher Pearce Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: PA Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS (5-speed) Posts: 2,542	Just because of the fact that this is the first AWD 3G Eclipse, I will say that I do not mind the graphics at all. With such a labor-intensive modification as an AWD swap is, you are free to do just about anything you want. Ahaha, anyways, the car looks great, and awesome work with the AWD. __________________ Christopher R. Pearce Information Sciences and Technology Information Context: People, Organizations, and Society (ISPP) The Pennsylvania State University

04/23/2007, 12:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
CujoJpN Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Brooklyn Park, MN Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS Posts: 794	Now post a how-to guide to help out the community!

04/23/2007, 12:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
EclipseMan 4G64 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Macomb Vehicle: 01 Eclipse 4banger Posts: 37	The bodykit / paintjob is really cool. Those rims are nice too. Cool AWD setup. __________________ My Videos: Racing and Cruising

04/23/2007, 08:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
rippedeclipse Turbonetics T4@17psi Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Delavan Wi 53115 Vehicle: 2000 GT 5-Speed TURBO Posts: 2,562	very nice work __________________ 331whp and 314 wtq Ripp stage 2 14 psi (now Stage 3 Advanced 20+ psi)

04/23/2007, 08:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
00TampaBlueGS imiTatum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS 5-spd. Posts: 4,357	Great pics, Mike. Congrats on finishing out the exhaust. The duallies look great. The "graphic" works quite well with your theme, as do the chrome tails. Don't worry too much over the more outspoken members here and their preference for understated/subdued 3G's. They haven't seen the Bomber in person! Very nice show car/garage queen.

04/23/2007, 08:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
xxtrurida75xx Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GT Posts: 603	nice car man, congrats on being the first. __________________

04/23/2007, 09:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
Special_K N my Flippy Floppies Aqua Slug Champion! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mentor, OH Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT PP Posts: 13,951	Looks like a lot of work, but congrats on a job well done. I like it. __________________ JIC Muellerized... Secsiness 2001 GT PP A/T 205whp/203wft-lbs *Tuned by LogicGate, Sponsored by Tearstone*

04/23/2007, 09:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
Chief Brody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin Vehicle: 2000 GST 5spd Posts: 1,429	Nice work. Be sure to stop by the FI forums and share your knowledge. __________________ Turbonetics DSM manifold Turbonetics T3/T4 AAI intercooler & charge piping Greddy Emanage Blue 440cc injectors Pocketlogger and PLX wideband Tsudo 2.5" Catback Hook'em Horns!

04/23/2007, 09:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
3gEclipseRS The GLR 4x4 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cincinnati,OH Vehicle: 04 Dodge Ram Posts: 1,239	Awesome car! Great work on the awd conversion. __________________ http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7...gnatureem3.jpg

04/23/2007, 09:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
smack682 Premium Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Vehicle: 02 GT Posts: 1,096	Thats amazing work. A more informative write-up on the build process would be really cool. Congrats!

04/23/2007, 10:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
NiteRyd AKA Nick Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pewaukee, WI Vehicle: 06 RX-8 Shinka, 09 Matrix Posts: 1,445	Nice job, but seems like an awful lot of work. Personally I would have just gone out and got an AWD vehicle but to each their own. How's it drive?

04/23/2007, 10:37 PM	#22 (permalink)
snake ol' #4 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Vehicle: F-150 Posts: 225	Good job, post some track launches when you can.

04/23/2007, 11:11 PM	#23 (permalink)
Eclipse_kid SilverBullet Convert Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodbridge, VA Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GT (auto) Posts: 237	yo man............. I LOVE YOUR CAR, theres no other way to put it, like everyone else said, a HOW TO post would be good. I would buy a beater car and go this route, ff i knew how

04/24/2007, 12:06 AM	#24 (permalink)
callmeebryan Turbo Buick > you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jersey Shore Vehicle: 1984 Buick Regal T-type Posts: 1,336	Great job man! I remember Pharm saying that you were using a 2g GSX rear end, but did you end up fixing that problem? I sure hope so, because a Evo8 tranny with a GSX rear end just wont work out... . Just wondering... __________________ Buick.... IPS 70mm DBB , FAST XFI standalone Forged and girdled w/ roller cam Single digits in 2009 .... it's luxury!

04/24/2007, 01:20 AM	#26 (permalink)
Rebel1088 boostin past V8s Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Racine, Wisconsin Vehicle: RIPPED GT Posts: 534	now to see if extra weight and increased traction stress on axles hold up and perform as any other AWD would awesome job man, keep us posted!

04/24/2007, 03:31 AM	#28 (permalink)
mstabil RS rocks! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 09 Lancer GTS Posts: 796	Car of the Month Nice car...how much did you spend for AWD conversion? __________________ 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS

04/24/2007, 10:21 AM	#29 (permalink)
bluebomber Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Vehicle: 03 AWD DOHC Turbo GSX Posts: 197	I know this is what you all want and will answer a 100 questions Here is my list of non 3G Parts used for the swap: 2G rear subframe 2G Control Arms 2G Rear Axles 2G Gas tank 2G Diff Plate 2G Diff Hub 2G E-brakes Evo 8 Trany Evo 8 Transfer case Evo 8 Drive Shaft Evo 8 Front Axles Evo 8 Front Knuckles Evo 8 Rear Diff Evo 8 Oil pan Evo 8 Starter Evo 8 Brakes Evo 8 FlyWheel, ACT Evo 8 Clutch, ACT Evo 8 Clutch Slave That's Everything I can think of from the top of my head. __________________

04/24/2007, 10:30 AM	#30 (permalink)
callmeebryan Turbo Buick > you Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jersey Shore Vehicle: 1984 Buick Regal T-type Posts: 1,336	Yeh, just to me it looks like the front wheels are spinning faster than the rear ones, but i guess thats my mind playing tricks. __________________ Buick.... IPS 70mm DBB , FAST XFI standalone Forged and girdled w/ roller cam Single digits in 2009 .... it's luxury!

04/24/2007, 11:19 AM	#31 (permalink)
crpearce Christopher Pearce Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: PA Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS (5-speed) Posts: 2,542	I noticed that too, but I thought it was all in my head as well. __________________ Christopher R. Pearce Information Sciences and Technology Information Context: People, Organizations, and Society (ISPP) The Pennsylvania State University

04/24/2007, 12:26 PM	#32 (permalink)
superfueled lowered!HappyNow? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mount Union, PA Vehicle: 2000 Fed spec GS 5spd Posts: 135	AWD isn't alway 50/50 distribution I don't think....I just figured, more power to the front than the rear. I know some of the old subaru's in auto were 50/50 but stick shift they were 40/60 with more going to the rear.

04/24/2007, 01:09 PM	#34 (permalink)
buttercup Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: IL Vehicle: 01 3G GS Posts: 228	thats awesome man!

04/24/2007, 02:05 PM	#36 (permalink)
bluebomber Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Vehicle: 03 AWD DOHC Turbo GSX Posts: 197	Well one thing is for sure the Front Evo axles are bigger than the rear, which I would suspect that more power is delivered to the front than the rear. As for my setup the trany transfer case and rear diff are from the same doner car so all gearing is the same. __________________

04/24/2007, 02:13 PM	#37 (permalink)
HIJACKER SCC-PHOTOGRAPHY.com Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Vehicle: 04 NSX, 10 Murano, 08 Alt Posts: 14,389	I admire the amount of effort and craftsmanship that went into this project 100%, however, I just don't understand the purpose of it on a 3G. Unless you're delivering some serious power to warrant AWD, it's pretty much pointless in my eyes. Either way.. good work. __________________

04/24/2007, 05:18 PM	#39 (permalink)
icemanrld19 stupid booster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: claysburg, camden, martinsburg, bridgeport, addison/dallas. Vehicle: Single snailed spyder Posts: 7,064	Magizine articles will love the first AWD 3g and the fact im pretty sure he will be putting down alot of power in the future. It just proves that theres never a end to moding

04/24/2007, 05:33 PM	#40 (permalink)
TurboBoostMan Guest Posts: n/a	In the face of all the negative attitudes and doubtful eclipse owners, you have created something very special. Well done....

04/24/2007, 06:10 PM	#41 (permalink)
BEISSEN Boosted FTW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Woodbridge,VA Vehicle: 05 EVO MR Posts: 2,628	get some vidsup with it running on the street not on jack stands it would be great to actully hear it run on the street.I have to agree with 00tampabluegs that his car is alot better in respects to being AWD and how can you say its pointless when you spent 5g in your trunk some would say that was a waste as he is the first and a pioneer so far with the AWD 3G. __________________ "Its not the the Size of the Dog in the fight,Its the size of the fight in the Dog." 2003 Eclipse GTS "SOLD" 2005 EVO MR 292 AWHP 273 AWTQ

04/24/2007, 07:01 PM	#43 (permalink)
superGT Kidney Krusher Bejeweled Champion! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cheese Pizza Box Vehicle: umm let me guess Posts: 3,672	Read this over on .org.. I'm like everybody else.. I'd like to see some videos out on the street or track with some dyno numbers or something. All in all tho' ... very impressive!!

04/24/2007, 07:15 PM	#44 (permalink)
00TampaBlueGS imiTatum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, CO Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS 5-spd. Posts: 4,357	Yeah, his thread on the .org is actually my only bookmark to over there. We'll do better with the pics and video for next meet. The 14th caught most of us with little documenting equipment. (read: few cameras & dead batteries) I'm interested in some dyno numbers as well. I saw a sheet from before the conversion, but it'd be a great addition for the next show... an AWD dyno sheet!