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Boost 44203 · 01/15/2013, 09:36 AM

What would be the best way to make a strong weatherproofed adhesion between a CF hatch and lexan? I have been searching for it and cannot find much. All of the threads I have read up on just balance weight gains/losses and if it's beneficial. Any ideas?

ICEMAN99TURBO · 01/16/2013, 06:59 PM

Window Urethane, comes in a tube and you can get it from the Automotive Finish supplier. 3M

Boost 44203 · 01/17/2013, 11:20 AM

I had looked into that, but a lot of people said it dried funky colors. Not trying to make my car look like it's a disaster art project...

polaris91 · 01/17/2013, 12:14 PM

it should not dry funky colors. it is the same stuff that holds in an oem windsheild, the 3m stuff has always dryed the same color it came out of the tube for me. (black)

Badtimmy66 · 01/17/2013, 03:31 PM

That is why the outside 1 to 2 inches of most windows are blacked out so no one can see the adhesive.

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Boost 44203 · 01/20/2013, 02:11 PM

So it is safe to say that the 3M would dry clear? (From popular belief)

XwP1ayawX · 01/20/2013, 02:15 PM

On the drag car we drilled holes in the perimeter of the lexan and bolted it in. You're building a drag car out of a 3g?

XwP1ayawX · 01/20/2013, 02:16 PM

I would use window urethane as well. Even if it dries a bit yellow, who cares, you're building for function, correct? It's not like lexan looks as good as glass after a while

ICEMAN99TURBO · 01/21/2013, 07:38 PM

I never heard of it changing colors... is it a 3M product or some look-a-like?

Boost 44203 · 01/21/2013, 10:08 PM

My hatch decided to rust through under the emblem, so I figured if I'm gonna buy a hatch it might as well be cf! And not really a 'drag car', but definitely not my dd. Eventually I want it to drag, but that's a story in itself. And other people have told me to screw it on so I could change it out, but 3M sounds smarter.

bwracing00 · 01/22/2013, 12:04 AM

Black window urethane ..... we use it all the time lol it stays black. If i was you i would rivet that bitch incause everytime you open and shut your doors you put cabin pressre in and actualy move your window and being lexan and light weight. With you driving aswell it could goo woosh. Right out.rivet it in amd then take black and out a nice small paint line to.hide them around the window. I know my punctuation is bad right now, im on phone and im tired as hell. Good luck cant wait to see i loved my cf hatch please stay wingless.

Boost 44203 · 01/22/2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bwracing00

Black window urethane ..... we use it all the time lol it stays black. If i was you i would rivet that bitch incause everytime you open and shut your doors you put cabin pressre in and actualy move your window and being lexan and light weight. With you driving aswell it could goo woosh. Right out.rivet it in amd then take black and out a nice small paint line to.hide them around the window. I know my punctuation is bad right now, im on phone and im tired as hell. Good luck cant wait to see i loved my cf hatch please stay wingless.

Planning on wingless forsure! I was thinking to rivet it, only problem with that is getting caught in rain... Hmmm... I guess no matter what I do there will def be ups and downs. And thanks for the cabin pressure comment. Never thought of that. Makes sense.

bwracing00 · 01/22/2013, 04:18 PM

Urethane with rivets

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Boost 44203 · 01/22/2013, 04:21 PM

If I did that though wouldn't that seal the cabin pressure like you said? Any any specific brand of that urathane?

Boost 44203 · 01/24/2013, 07:33 AM

And also does anyone know of a company that makes preshaped lexan for our cars? I can't seem to find anything. Thanks!

ICEMAN99TURBO · 01/27/2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Boost 44203

And also does anyone know of a company that makes preshaped lexan for our cars? I can't seem to find anything. Thanks!

Your local glass shop should be able to help you out.

Boost 44203 · 02/04/2013, 11:27 AM

After contacting quite a few places in my area I cannot seem to find much of anything. Anyone else know of any places that manufacture or could produce lexan or something similar to the OEM rear hatch shape?

Lil Mitsu · 02/04/2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Boost 44203

After contacting quite a few places in my area I cannot seem to find much of anything. Anyone else know of any places that manufacture or could produce lexan or something similar to the OEM rear hatch shape?

I haven't read the entire thread, but if you could make a mold of the outside of the glass you might be able to heat form the lexan/material to the original OEM shape.

thahnic1080 · 02/04/2013, 11:40 AM

theres no company that produces lexan glass for the 3g. There's a shop in chicago (forgot the name) that claims they can make one if you send out your hatch to them. They way our hatch bends makes it very difficult to make out of lexan. This is why i havent done it yet but i have something in the making

Boost 44203 · 02/04/2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil Mitsu

I haven't read the entire thread, but if you could make a mold of the outside of the glass you might be able to heat form the lexan/material to the original OEM shape.

Yea, I have thought about this, but with the contours of the glass I highly doubt I could shape it without an oven big enough to heat it. :l

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01/15/2013, 09:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Boost 44203 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio 44203 Vehicle: 03 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 161	Lexan w/ CF Hatch What would be the best way to make a strong weatherproofed adhesion between a CF hatch and lexan? I have been searching for it and cannot find much. All of the threads I have read up on just balance weight gains/losses and if it's beneficial. Any ideas?

01/17/2013, 03:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Badtimmy66 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington IL Vehicle: 01 eclipse gs Posts: 23	Re: Lexan w/ CF Hatch That is why the outside 1 to 2 inches of most windows are blacked out so no one can see the adhesive. Sent from my SGH-T999 using AutoGuide.Com Free App

01/22/2013, 12:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
bwracing00 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: dekalb,IL Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 2,067	Re: Lexan w/ CF Hatch Black window urethane ..... we use it all the time lol it stays black. If i was you i would rivet that bitch incause everytime you open and shut your doors you put cabin pressre in and actualy move your window and being lexan and light weight. With you driving aswell it could goo woosh. Right out.rivet it in amd then take black and out a nice small paint line to.hide them around the window. I know my punctuation is bad right now, im on phone and im tired as hell. Good luck cant wait to see i loved my cf hatch please stay wingless. __________________ 2000 Eclipse GS-TURBO GI CF hood KYB/Tein s-techs Custom Body Kit 18" HP evo lightning Custom skyline taillights Carbon Fiber interior http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b.../bwracing2.png

01/22/2013, 04:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
bwracing00 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: dekalb,IL Vehicle: 2000 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 2,067	Re: Lexan w/ CF Hatch Urethane with rivets Sent from my DROIDX using AutoGuide.Com Free App __________________ 2000 Eclipse GS-TURBO GI CF hood KYB/Tein s-techs Custom Body Kit 18" HP evo lightning Custom skyline taillights Carbon Fiber interior http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b.../bwracing2.png

01/16/2013, 06:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
ICEMAN99TURBO Your Reality Check Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bad Axe, MI Welcome 2 HICKTOWN Vehicle: Y2K GT-P Posts: 30,275	Window Urethane, comes in a tube and you can get it from the Automotive Finish supplier. 3M

01/17/2013, 11:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
Boost 44203 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio 44203 Vehicle: 03 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 161	I had looked into that, but a lot of people said it dried funky colors. Not trying to make my car look like it's a disaster art project...

01/17/2013, 12:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
polaris91 Member Join Date: May 2010 Vehicle: 00 eclipse gs Posts: 85	it should not dry funky colors. it is the same stuff that holds in an oem windsheild, the 3m stuff has always dryed the same color it came out of the tube for me. (black)

01/20/2013, 02:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Boost 44203 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio 44203 Vehicle: 03 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 161	So it is safe to say that the 3M would dry clear? (From popular belief)

01/20/2013, 02:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
XwP1ayawX GT35 Monster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Space Vehicle: V-ROD, R6, GST Posts: 10,276	On the drag car we drilled holes in the perimeter of the lexan and bolted it in. You're building a drag car out of a 3g?

01/20/2013, 02:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
XwP1ayawX GT35 Monster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Space Vehicle: V-ROD, R6, GST Posts: 10,276	I would use window urethane as well. Even if it dries a bit yellow, who cares, you're building for function, correct? It's not like lexan looks as good as glass after a while

01/21/2013, 07:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
ICEMAN99TURBO Your Reality Check Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bad Axe, MI Welcome 2 HICKTOWN Vehicle: Y2K GT-P Posts: 30,275	I never heard of it changing colors... is it a 3M product or some look-a-like?

01/21/2013, 10:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Boost 44203 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio 44203 Vehicle: 03 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 161	My hatch decided to rust through under the emblem, so I figured if I'm gonna buy a hatch it might as well be cf! And not really a 'drag car', but definitely not my dd. Eventually I want it to drag, but that's a story in itself. And other people have told me to screw it on so I could change it out, but 3M sounds smarter.

01/22/2013, 04:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Boost 44203 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio 44203 Vehicle: 03 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 161	If I did that though wouldn't that seal the cabin pressure like you said? Any any specific brand of that urathane?

01/24/2013, 07:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
Boost 44203 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio 44203 Vehicle: 03 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 161	And also does anyone know of a company that makes preshaped lexan for our cars? I can't seem to find anything. Thanks!

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02/04/2013, 11:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
Boost 44203 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio 44203 Vehicle: 03 Eclipse GS-T Posts: 161	After contacting quite a few places in my area I cannot seem to find much of anything. Anyone else know of any places that manufacture or could produce lexan or something similar to the OEM rear hatch shape?

02/04/2013, 11:40 AM	#19 (permalink)
thahnic1080 REDLINE ALL GEARS Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: virginia beach Vehicle: 2002 GT SDS Posts: 4,624	theres no company that produces lexan glass for the 3g. There's a shop in chicago (forgot the name) that claims they can make one if you send out your hatch to them. They way our hatch bends makes it very difficult to make out of lexan. This is why i havent done it yet but i have something in the making