THE ONLY DAMN GT-R THREAD IN HERE, POST ANYWHERE ELSE ABOUT IT AND YOU'LL BE BANNED.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Autoblog

Oh, what we would have done to be the gas station attendant on duty when this rolled up. Some lucky New Mexicans had a chance to adore a GTR prototype up close, when it stopped for fuel while undergoing altitude testing in New Mexico yesterday.

Not much is camo'd in the pics, with the exception of the front end and, according to the photographer, the interior. While there's nothing new to report on the styling front, we'd ask you to direct your attention to the absolutely stunning seven-spoke rimmage, framing the equally drool-worthy gold binders.

We can't wait. We can't wait. We can't wait. And this is just the latest reminder that we'll be able to finally experience the pinnacle of Nissan performance here in the States.

[Bitter]

i saw the pic earlier, they're all asians standing around so i thought it was a lie that it was in the USA

sam, dont you wish you were the test driver? i think you need to apply to nissan.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Bitter

sam, dont you wish you were the test driver? i think you need to apply to nissan.

Actually, no. They wouldn't pay me enough, and as much as I love cars, I love a nice wage too.

[Bitter]

Originally Posted by Sam

Actually, no. They wouldn't pay me enough, and as much as I love cars, I love a nice wage too.

you'd love to drive through the new mexico mountains, tearing around each corner in that car.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Bitter

you'd love to drive through the new mexico mountains, tearing around each corner in that car.

Hell yes I would love it, love it enough to leave what I have? Nope.

[Bitter]

Originally Posted by Sam

Hell yes I would love it, love it enough to leave what I have? Nope.

i said nothing about leaving you've owned enough nissans and love your 350 enough to qualify to take that thing for a spin i think

[Mav]

I need to tell my grandparents to keep a lookout for this as they live in the highest city in NM. yeah right, they have no idea what to look for.

-a friend of mine (and co-worker) is going to Sacramento this weekend to interview w/ nissan. He said the initial offer is $76k. not too bad.

[Tearstone]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=119564#6

^^^ Click link for video

Originally Posted by Edmunds

Four months ago we brought you the first spy photos and video of the 2009 Nissan Skyline GT-R as it lapped the Nürburgring test track in Germany. Now, after an intensive stakeout that covered two states, we present these exclusive spy shots and video of the next-generation Nissan Skyline GT-R testing in the U.S.

It all started when a spy photo surfaced early last week of the 2009 Skyline at a gas station in New Mexico. We figured that particular Skyline prototype was working out of Nissan's Arizona proving grounds, so we dispatched our crack spy photography team to get more on the high-powered supercar. Sure enough, after staking out Nissan's secluded test facility our shooters managed to snag some long-range shots of the GT-R turning hot laps on the proving ground road course.

But of course we wanted more, so when the Skyline crew headed for Southern California our photographers followed. Not surprisingly, Nissan's engineering team was bound for a facility in Torrance, California, not far from the company's recently vacated corporate headquarters. Along with an empty warehouse for storing the Skyline prototype and its Porsche 911 Turbo competitor, the engineers have a semitruck stuffed to the gills with wheels, tires and other testing equipment.

Once they got situated in their new digs, Nissan's engineers headed out for some tire and highway ride testing on various L.A. freeways. Nothing radical, just cruising at moderate speeds on the concrete blocks that make up the rarely smooth 405 and 10 freeways. After a few loops, the Skyline returned to the shop, swapped wheels and tires, and hit the road for additional testing with the 911 Turbo in tow at all times.

As for the car itself, it reveals no new styling details we haven't seen before. The front and rear ends remain covered and even the interior is shrouded in camouflage. One detail we were able to make out is the set of steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters for the transmission. As we reported previously, the 2009 Skyline won't get a manual gearbox. Whether that means we'll be stuck with a traditional automatic or a newly developed dual clutch setup similar to Volkswagen's DSG setup is still unclear. Engine details have also eluded us, but we're working on digging up those specs as well.

One thing you can count on is more footage of this particular Skyline prototype. Our shooters are still on the hunt, so if this Skyline ventures out in public again we'll be there to capture more spy photos and video. Stay tuned for more updates later this week.

[Audax]

Wow, that car is so fucking amazing. I want to go find it!! I'm surprised there was enough open room on the 405 to even get up to speed.. .

[Jar]

[SidIsOnFire]

Can't wait to see more of it.

[Sam]

Russ, for fuckssakes, we don't have to make a new thread about the GTR; especially since I've already started one before you.

[Tearstone]

Originally Posted by Sam

Russ, for fuckssakes, we don't have to make a new thread about the GTR; especially since I've already started one before you.

I was waiting for you to come along and find the thread for me

[Sam]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikefie...020753/detail/

Originally Posted by Motor Authority

An Arizona local calling himself Badgermike managed to take some close-up images of the all-new GT-R in testing. Nissan have been relentless in its final testing of the all-new GT-R that’s due next year, running extensive shakedown tests both in Germany at the famed Nürburgring circuit and more recently in the south-eastern states of the US, and always with a Porsche 911 Turbo in tow.

Of course, the Nissan engineers weren’t too happy to see him pull out his camera but when quizzed about the performance, one engineer replied “911 Turbo.” There are no new details about the car’s mechanical package. Only that it will feature a high-performance turbo V6 engine developing between 450 and 500hp. The new GT-R also drops a conventional manual set-up in favor of paddle-shifters located behind the steering wheel.

[Mark]

[Sam]

I'll own this car after it's been out for a year and the bugs get worked out.

[Rulez]

Man, that car is going to be pure sex.

[Spuds]

beautiful. I can't wait to see it out on the streets.

[rocketbass88]

So there's not even going to be a manual option? That blows...

[Jar]

Originally Posted by rocketbass88

So there's not even going to be a manual option? That blows...

Sam will piss on his until it turns into a manual.

[LUNAR]

That is very nice looking indeed.

[rocketbass88]

Originally Posted by Jar

Sam will piss on his until it turns into a manual.

If I ever own one... I guess I'll have to give him a call so he can piss on mine too.

[LUNAR]

Originally Posted by rocketbass88

If I ever own one... I guess I'll have to give him a call so he can piss on mine too.

[FLiPMaRC]

Paddle shifters

[rshank]

Originally Posted by rocketbass88

So there's not even going to be a manual option? That blows...

[dklau33]

I'd be really shocked if Nissan didn't release this, their halo sports car, with a manual. Maybe it will be only automated manual at first and then manuals later on in production.

[dklau33]

GT-R doing hotlaps at Infineon (Sears Point) Raceway

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

[rocketbass88]

The posters at the NASIOC forums always seem to find primo stuff, and today's no exception. The entrance to the Nürburgring Nordschleife has a webcam mounted above it, which you can check throughout the day as it refreshes. (That sucking sound you hear is the at-work productivity of enthusiasts everywhere being vacuumed into oblivion.)

Sometimes you can eyeball some really neat stuff getting ready to enter the Green Hell, like, for instance, this black Opel Zafira. We kid, we kid! Of greater interest is the passel of GT-R prototypes lined up behind that Zafira, on the other side of the fence. And that wasn't the only look at the upcoming barn-burner from Nissan -- you can see a couple of others in the gallery below. Make sure you check out the full NASIOC thread, too. In it, you'll get peeks at a Gallardo Superleggera, a bunch of Morgan owners out for a ride together, what looks to be a gathering of every sportbike on the European continent, and a Phoenix Racing Aston Martin DBRS9 getting ready for a closed-track session. Awesome stuff.

[spydermn]

What are the performance specs of the new GTR? Is it going to be a great platform to build on (ie R34) or is it going to be a great car out of the box that will make an incrdilbe platform to build on (ie C6)?

[Mr.3G]

i think they said V6 twin turbo 0-60 un 4sec and 450hp

[SilverBullet]

Okay, I know everybody is saying it will be SMG/DSG/Auto/whatever, but anyone who watched the video. Did it sound to you like someone was feathering a clutch on the car? It's about half way in the vid, where the car is stopped somewhere at a light and when it starts rolling again, you hear two small throttle blips and a slow take off. Kinda sounds like someone driving stick to me.

Whaddya' think? Or am I being too optimistic......

[dklau33]

According to the latest rumors there are going to be 3 trims. The base one being a regular 6-spd manual. But who knows, it's just all speculation at this point.

[Mark]

only 8 seconds long, but apparently Darth Vader is piloting this thing Sounds AWESOME!

No front mask either, but can't see shit. I've tried to grab it at certain frames, but can't get anything worth looking at.

[bsprogs]

look at Darth go! That sounds fucking awesome and it's hauling ass!

[Rulez]

That is awesome!

[ShaneM]

I loved the guys opening statement of "Holy Jesus!"

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Autoblog

New scans of Nissan GT-R models surface


Japenese car mags sometimes provide the juiciest of news for us Yanks to drool over. Take these scans from an unnamed Japanese car mag that show Nissan's upcoming GT-R. The pictures look a bit photoshopped, as they differ from spy shots we've seen of the car testing at the Nurburgring in Germany and elsewhere in the world. The car in these pics is much more aggressive with an extra intake for rear brake cooling behind the doors and accompanying vent behind the wheel wells. The rear wing is also larger and a more serious looking affair.

Then again, the GT-R will come in three flavors, standard, V-Spec and EVO, so most of these shots may be showing the GT-R EVO trim that ups the car's aggression by a factor of ten. The translation of the article accompanying these photos tell us that the standard GT-R will start at $57,000 and feature a 480-horsepower version of the VQHRTT. Whether or not the twin-turbo V6 is 3.7L or 3.8L large wasn't mentioned. The V-Spec GT-R, meanwhile, will start at $67,000, while the top perfroming EVO spec will begin at $94,000 and feature a 530-horsepower version of the VQHRTT engine while shedding 220 lbs. from the car's overall weight through the use of lighter seats, ceramic rotors and the like.

[Mikolan]

Damnit!! Out of my price range again!!

[Oscardms]

I don't like that wing. I'm sure it's at least functional though.

[Clipse3GT]

I'd pick up a Z06 over that if I would have to choose.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Clipse3GT

I'd pick up a Z06 over that if I would have to choose.

I'm sure Nissan is very saddened to hear that, especially coming from a Mitsubishi Eclipse owner - that very demographic these high performance sports cars appeal to.

[Clipse3GT]

THe GTR's styling is just all over the place, vent here, vent there, vent everywhere, and the rear wing is tacky to say the least. Who know's we will see when the number's roll in the performance category.

The funny fact is once you become a Mitsu owner, you learn quickly never to buy another Mitsu again.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Clipse3GT

THe GTR's styling is just all over the place, vent here, vent there, vent everywhere, and the rear wing is tacky to say the least.

Those last pictures I posted said they thought the photos were photoshopped; besides that everything they have done to that car is for a reason, as ugly as it may look, it's purposeful.

This new GTR is the successor to the old GTR, and this new GTR's performance benchmark is the 911, well, I am quite sure Nissan will make this car perform just fine.

[black04spec]

Originally Posted by Clipse3GT

The funny fact is once you become a Mitsu owner, you learn quickly never to buy another Mitsu again.

imo not true... selling my 2g was the biggest mistake ever. so i bought a 3g lol

[Clipse3GT]

Originally Posted by black04spec

imo not true... selling my 2g was the biggest mistake ever. so i bought a 3g lol

The 2G was plagued with reliability issues. The 3G is more reliable, minus all the good stuff the 2G or 1G had.



In the end people grow up and want something else. Like me, the 3G is fun little car, but I am thinking of bigger and badder things in the future.

[rocketbass88]

More pics from Goodwood- Autoblog


Although Toyota was the featured marque at this year's Goodwood Festival of Speed, according to our man on the ground, a series of Nissan ads kept popping up on the jumbotrons. The idea that the new GT-R would make its way up the hill was joked about between Frank and his cohorts, but shortly thereafter, a partially disguised gray coupe darted up the tarmac.

According to Frank, the GT-R had a distinctly muscular sound about it, even with the slight muffling provided by the turbos. The camo, concealing both the front fascia and rear end, was particularly thin, allowing observers to imagine the finished product.

We'll be on hand in Tokyo when the next generation GT-R is unveiled, but in the meantime, check out the pictures in the gallery below and follow this link to see a larger static shot that gives a great view of the GT-R's seven spoke rolling stock.

[Patrick]

As we reported previously, the 2009 Skyline won't get a manual gearbox. Whether that means we'll be stuck with a traditional automatic or a newly developed dual clutch setup similar to Volkswagen's DSG setup is still unclear.

I hope they'd still offer the R35 Skyline with a manual gearbox though.

[LLDre]

Cant wait

[Raiku]

Originally Posted by LLDre

Cant wait

+1

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by LLDre

Cant wait

I'd but not if they will not offer a true stick-shift option.

[Rulez]

Under the hood of the Nissan GT-R: Engine details revealed - Autoblog

Originally Posted by Autoblog

Under the hood of the Nissan GT-R: Engine details revealed

The upcoming Nissan GT-R is already a streetbound race car, but rather than just toss the tasty-enough VK V8 in the engine bay and call it a day, Nissan's going all out with an engine befitting an actual racer. The VK45 was rumored to be the engine for the GT-R, but Nissan felt its overall style was more Grand Touring than was appropriate, so they reached back into history and pulled out a little number from the R390 LeMans racer.

The R390 sported a 3.5 liter V8 known as the VRH35L, which was essentially recreated as a V6 production engine in the form of the upcoming GT-R's VR38VETT. Even though it loses two cylinders, it gains 300cc of displacement, for a total of 3.8 liters. Oh yeah, there's a couple of turbochargers thrown in for good measure, too. Despite the amount of air it can pump, the VR38 is a compact mill with lots of trick touches. Among the most interesting features, and probably the ones that tuners will hate the most, are the integrated turbine housings in the exhaust manifolds. Having the impellers right in the manifold keeps weight down and improves response, while also making the overall package more compact and thus easier to nestle down into the frame. Each cylinder bank has its own independent intake manifold, which is the main thing you see when lifting the hood. The cylinders fed by that plumbing are occupied by lightened pistons, which are in turn flung around by svelte connecting rods and crankshaft, too. Cosworth had a hand in engineering the engine, which has an alloy block with linerless bores, plenty of magnesium alloy pieces, an oiling system capable of coping with high g's, and an eagerness to rev in a way 3800ccs usually aren't.

The GT-R will be impressive when it debuts in just a couple of months, and from the numbers, it looks like it'll give a Porsche 911 Turbo quite a run for its (big pile of) money. The horsepower figure for both cars is 480ps, and while the GT-R gives up some torque to the Porsche, the GT-R rips off equally quick dashes to 100 km/h (3.9 seconds) and has been designed with vehicular balance as an overarching theme. While the chassis of the GT-R can handle more power, Nissan's considerable Group C racing experience showed that cars with better balance are faster than horsepower champs. With a front engine/AWD layout, it'll be less a widowmaker than the 911, which can get wiggly at times. How's this sound – performance equal to (and potentially better) than the 911 Turbo for half the price (7.9 million Yen versus 18.2 million Yen)? Yeah, we thought so. Besides, the GT-R isn't stuck in some kind of iconoclastic styling purgatory the way the 911 is.

[Rulez]

7tune.com » Blog Archive » VR38VETT Confirmed by Holiday Auto

Originally Posted by 7tune

Japan’s Holiday Auto magazine goes on the record confirming the name and specification of the upcoming GT-R’s engine in its latest ‘GT-R Perfect Manual’ edition.

Even though the 2008 GT-R’s release is still just under two months away, Holiday Auto has been hard at work putting together a 10 page article exploring the new GT-R’s engine, chassis, driveline and interior features, some of which is old news by now but included nonetheless. We’re told that Nissan was in fact looking at a V8 engine to use in the GT-R in its early stages of development but found that the VK45 from the Nissan President wasn’t an engine worthy of the ‘R’ in the GT-R’s badge. Although it could satisfy the power, torque and driveability deemed necessary for the GT-R, the way in which it delivered those attributes was more befitting of a large saloon than a GT car. There was also a status problem, the VK45 being associated with Nissan’s luxury sedan would cause problems with potential GT-R buyers who were looking for more exclusivity… well exclusivity is what they got.

The VR38VETT

Holiday Auto broke the news about the existence of a VR based GT-R engine last month, and since then has gone one further and given us a actual alphanumeric designation: VR38VETT. The VR38 is actually a recreation of the famed VRH35L V8 powering the R390 Le Mans car albeit in V6 form. A lot of knowledge gained from Group C and endurance racing has allowed Nissan to take the performance aspect of the GT-R that little bit further (over say, a VQ based engine) by taking the basic design of the VRH35 and using it for the new GT-R’s V6 engine block and cylinder heads. A surprising feature of the twin turbo system is the ‘Integrated Exhaust Manifold Turbine’ where the exhaust manifold and turbo exhaust housing are formed as one piece. We’re told this is for weight saving, packaging and high response and was chosen over the more costly ‘motor assisted twin turbo system’ that was predicted way back in mid-2004. What all this has resulted in is an engine design that could be viewed as two 1.9L straight 3-cylinder DOHC turbo engines joined by a common crankshaft, with separate intake manifolds and throttle bodies for each bank. The intake manifold is actually the centerpiece of the engine bay, its intake runners being used as a design feature of the VR38VETT as shown in the CG mock up image shown below.



Cosworth’s involvement in the GT-R’s engine development has been mentioned before on many occasions but until now there hasn’t been much information on what they’ve actually done. Holiday Auto tells us the GT-R’s aluminum engine block is a ‘monoblock’ design, meaning it doesn’t use sleeves inside each cylinder bore so that the pistons make direct contact with the block. Cosworth has also reduced the weight of the crankshaft, conrods and pistons to achieve maximum response and a free revving nature that belies its larger 3.8L capacity. It comes as a surprise too that the whole engine looks a lot shorter than what you would expect a 3.8L engine to be, its compact design and light weight being a major contributing factor in the cars overall balance. Many other parts such as the cam covers, timing chain cover, oil pan and a multitude of bolts, screws and washers are all made of magnesium. The GT-R will also use a semi-wet sump system which can handle higher g-forces over a traditional wet sump which start to suffer from ‘oil sloshing’ at around 1.8g. As pointed out in our previous article, the power delivery of the VR38VETT is extremely linear and does not drop off after hitting maximum power at 6,800rpm which was a big factor in proceeding with the development of an all new engine. From as little as 1,500rpm a powerful surge can be felt with - what seems like - all 480ps available with very little throttle application. It has been said that there are very few people with enough skill to drive the new GT-R at its limit, this limit being so high that a driver of average skill level would never be able to test the boundaries of the GT-R’s performance… this could possibly be an exaggeration on Holiday Auto’s part, but the point has been made clear: the new GT-R is every bit a Supercar.



Group C Influence

Kazutoshi Mizuno, who headed Nissan’s Group C and Le Mans racing programs, has brought a lot of Group C racing knowhow to the new GT-R in the form of an overall design theory rather than just a particular specification level or layout on paper. Where the BNR32 GT-R was specifically designed to conquer the Group A Championship in Japan (and subsequently Australia) and then sold on to the public, the new GT-R takes the opposite approach being a car designed for the public using knowledge gained from Nissan’s racing exploits. The Group C cars of the early 1990s were all about outright speed and this has been applied to the new GT-R right from the word ‘go’, every part of the car has been designed to gain maximum speed without upsetting the cars outstanding balance. As an example, during the Group C racing era it was found that cars with around 750hp were more drivable and could actually lap quicker than cars with 1,000hp and thus detuned, so this led the GT-R design team to limit its output to under 500hp despite the fact that the chassis could handle well in excess of that figure.

Multi Function Display and Price

The new GT-R’s Multi Function Display will offer more information than previously available in the BNR34 GT-R. Four main presets categorize the information:

Preset 1: boost pressure (1.5kg/cm limit), oil pressure and temperature

Preset 2: selected gear, gearbox oil pressure/temp

Preset 3: cornering g’s, accelerator opening

Preset 4: acceleration g’s, braking g’s, front and rear torque split

Nissan Japan’s dealer network has been given pricing for the officially named ‘Nissan GT-R’ at 7,900,000 yen with certain options like a Bose Premium audio system incorporating - and this might come as a shock to current GT-R owners - a subwoofer mounted over the transmission tunnel between the rear seat footwells thus rendering the GT-R a strictly 2+2 seating arrangement. About a year after the GT-R has been released in Japan there will also be a model to go head to head with the Porsche 911 GT2, possibly to enter the market badged as a ‘Nismo Version’ and based on a V-Spec model.

Words: Justin Karow

[Inferno]

Wow. Just wow.

7,900,000 Yen = $69,100.

[rocketbass88]

Looks like the Z06 is about to be dethroned of it's "best bargin sports car" title.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Inferno

7,900,000 Yen = $69,100.

If it actually produces the performance they have been trying to achieve, that's not really a whole bunch of money for what you are getting.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by DIMERYDER

while i was in japan...

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Sam

If it actually produces the performance they have been trying to achieve, that's not really a whole bunch of money for what you are getting.

Not at all. If Nissan can somehow magically bring the price closer to $60k, it's a hell of a bargain. The car itself looks like a hell of a street machine, but there's two things I'm concerned about:

-According to the specification sheet Rulez posted, this boy's a bit chunky at 3850 pounds. I guess it's a bit unrealistic to expect it to weight 3300-3400 pounds like its predecessor, considering the enlarged dimensions and what's lurking beneath the hood, but at least it will have considerably more gusto than the VR-4.

-What about the interior? Unless I missed out on something, there has not been a single picture of the interior.

Let me ask you a sincere question Sam. If this new Skyline lived up to its hype and the price remained ungouged when it comes over the 'States, would you buy it?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Let me ask you a sincere question Sam. If this new Skyline lived up to its hype and the price remained ungouged when it comes over the 'States, would you buy it?

I would give it one year of production, and if it in fact lives up to the hype, I'll own one.

[Mark]

The "Integrated Exhaust Manifold Turbine" sounds odd to me...maybe I'm just not familiar enough with turbo cars, but that sounds kinda shitty.

I still think that it just LOOKS porky, which I'm not very fond of. Nor the window line. That VR38 looks like it's got a six-pack though

[Jar]

Originally Posted by Mark

The "Integrated Exhaust Manifold Turbine" sounds odd to me...maybe I'm just not familiar enough with turbo cars, but that sounds kinda shitty.

Yep, you're right. You're just not familiar enough with turbo cars.