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Old 04/18/2011, 11:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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P0141 Thread #3million-1

Fed-Spec 2003 GT. Four oxygen sensors. P0141 Error.

Once I get this fixed I'm going to post the correct information here. no point in leaving all this false crap that I wrote. :/

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Old 04/18/2011, 11:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Track the wires back to the wiring harness. The wires have a tendency to slip out of their harnesses on these cars... obvoiusly if you replaced the o2 sensor twice already it's not on the side of the sensor it's self.

meaning you plug the sensor in to another wiring harness, and that wiring harness potentially busted.
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Old 04/18/2011, 11:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Track the wires back to the wiring harness. The wires have a tendency to slip out of their harnesses on these cars... obvoiusly if you replaced the o2 sensor twice already it's not on the side of the sensor it's self.

meaning you plug the sensor in to another wiring harness, and that wiring harness potentially busted.
Sounds good man, will look into this tomorrow if I can get a second... Finals and work are Fxcking my face.
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Old 04/19/2011, 12:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sounds good man, will look into this tomorrow if I can get a second... Finals and work are Fxcking my face.
I know the feeling, minus the work. my finals aren't too bad cause it's only my first year of college. if you don't think you can properly look at it yourself usually (not always) you can take it in to your local autoparts store, (autozone or orielies) and usually those guys can give you some good advice.
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Old 04/19/2011, 08:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well seems as though I'm wrong, I just found two other o2 sensors this morning. Am I even replacing the correct sensor??? Ugh. Looking like I'm going to end up dropping my pants at the dealership on this one... :/
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Old 04/19/2011, 08:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You will have four O2 sensors. Two before the cat and two after the cat. usually the O2 sensors BEFORE the cat (between the header and cat) are the ones that die/need to be replaced. Just replace these two together and you should be good to go.
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Bank 1 Sensor 2:

o2 sensor replacement, i think theres 3, but how do i know which?

Location of Bank 1 Sensor 2 Oxygen sensor?
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Heh...well forget what I said then...
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Ugh, how did neither of these come up in my search... lmao Thanks Finesse.. for the hundredth time xP... Going to have to start paying you as my mechanic... @.@

Will update once I get this straightened out.. could very well be a week but It'll happen.
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Ugh, how did neither of these come up in my search... lmao Thanks Finesse.. for the hundredth time xP... Going to have to start paying you as my mechanic... @.@

Will update once I get this straightened out.. could very well be a week but It'll happen.
No problem, by the way I used (and always use) the Advanced Search option.
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No problem, by the way I used (and always use) the Advanced Search option.
Duly noted

Drove onto my neighbors ramp today and looked at it. Also reading one of the other threads that Finesse linked it appears that I would need to drop part of the exhaust, to get to it eh? Gross.
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Duly noted

Drove onto my neighbors ramp today and looked at it. Also reading one of the other threads that Finesse linked it appears that I would need to drop part of the exhaust, to get to it eh? Gross.
Drop part of the exhaust to get to what? Certainly not an O2 sensor.
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Drop part of the exhaust to get to what? Certainly not an O2 sensor.


Think a breaker bar would be my best bet? It's a tight frakken fit up there.
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Think a breaker bar would be my best bet? It's a tight frakken fit up there.
All you have to do is jack the car up, put it on jackstands, get underneath the car and while you're under there spray some kind of penetrate (WD-40, PB Blaster) on the back of the sensor and have a socket wrench and this tool handy:

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Gotcha, I was in a bit of a rush when I looked at it yesterday. I'll have to take another look after finals this coming week. Already have the o2 Sensor socket also.
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Gotcha, I was in a bit of a rush when I looked at it yesterday. I'll have to take another look after finals this coming week. Already have the o2 Sensor socket also.
Cool. It's truly one of the easiest jobs you can do on the car. It only gets difficult if the sensor is REALLY rusted onto the exhaust which then you may have to resort to getting the propane torch out.
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Cool. It's truly one of the easiest jobs you can do on the car. It only gets difficult if the sensor is REALLY rusted onto the exhaust which then you may have to resort to getting the propane torch out.
Yeah, I got the sensor that I had pictured earlier out with little trouble once I got the o2 socket. P0141 is just in such an awkward place, cramped as hell.

Gonna keep trying... xD I'm Bull headed. You say it can be done, now I have to do it... lmao
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This is it at the top of this pic right? Right below these *******



If that's it there is no way I'm getting that thing off without taking something else off. I got the o2 socket onto it but there is literally 0 room to move the wrench / BB... Am I doing something incredibly stupid? I'm starting to think that I am.... ugh.
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