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Old 12/14/2011, 11:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New brakes - sounds like metal rubbing- do I need these 2 metal clips pads slide on?

On my brake pads, where you put them and slide them in.
Those two metal pieces that the pad slides on, do I need that?

They started to come off and now my brakes squeal like they are hitting the rotor. They are new brake pads too.


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Old 12/14/2011, 11:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yepp you need those clips. Its what hold the brake pads in place.

Edit: Im pretty sure some autoplaces sell the clips seperately

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Most new pads need to be bedded in. The sound should go away in 3 or so days. Google stop techs article on how to properly bed brake pads. The clips help pull the pad off the rotor by attaching it to the piston.
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Yepp you need those clips. Its what hold the brake pads in place.
Op are you referring to the clips that came with the pads? Or the 2 slider shims that clip onto the caliper?
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Old 12/14/2011, 11:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I looked it up and they said shims as well, but I didn't want to type shims and confuse people if they weren't called shims.

But, yes I believe so. They clip on to that little rectangle notch on the piece that holds the brake pads.

Should I just re-seat them and see if it goes away?



I just kinda thought they weren't really needed because it doesn't look like they do anything.

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Old 12/14/2011, 11:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I just kinda thought they weren't really needed because it doesn't look like they do anything.
I had a girlfriend like that.

Even if it doesn't solve the noise, yes you should put those back on. Those are the pad clips, keeps the pads aligned in the middle of the caliper.

If you want new ones, Autozone (or similar) would sell them in a front brake hardware kit. You might need new ones since you said your old ones started coming off on their own.
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Old 12/14/2011, 12:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The one part of the shim/clip was sticking out. So I pushed it back in - hopefully that will help.

Also, on the passenger outer brake pad, it has a crack in the pad..
That do anything? It's a small crack, however. Only on the passenger side.

I'll keep the clips on and see if the noise is gone.

ALSO, when my car sits at like college, I start it up and when I drive and press on the brake - it like feels odd. The brake makes a weird grinding noise and feels odd..

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Replace the cracked pad. Your breaks are the most important part of you car. Everything should be in perfect working condition. Those shims hold the pads in place and what they slide on. You are hearing metal on metal because the metal pad base is loose and grinding against the metal caliper.

Put the shims back on and do yourself a favor and put some anti sieze on the metal part of the pad that makes contact with the shims to help reduce typical brake noise.

You need to go into a lot more detail than my brakes feel wierd in the morning if you want help. For starters when was the last time your lines were flushed or the fluid was completely replaced?
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Well, about 6 months ago - I took off the front calipers and drained the fluids.

Then I bled the brake lines.

I had the brake fluid to the top - I cannot see it now because the cap is SO tight, but today I'm going to check.

Anyhow, will advanceauto give me another brake pad set because of the warranty?
Maybe they were faulty, causing it to crack. I know heat can do that as well.
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Well, about 6 months ago - I took off the front calipers and drained the fluids.

Then I bled the brake lines.

I had the brake fluid to the top - I cannot see it now because the cap is SO tight, but today I'm going to check.

Anyhow, will advanceauto give me another brake pad set because of the warranty?
Maybe they were faulty, causing it to crack. I know heat can do that as well.
Both of those depend in the brand and quality. For the brake bleed its very easy to mess up and get air in there. Also if it has a low wet boiling point air developed in there. I bleed every 6k miles when I rotate my tires to be safe.

If the brakes have a warranty they should be able to be replaced. High quality pads shouldn't crack from heat.
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Old 01/06/2012, 03:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Are Wearever Silver good? Should they crack?

I did not look again because I don't feel like taking my tires off again. I've done it like 15 times and it's getting annoying and old. I think the person that had the car before me, got really good brakes. I had NO brake dust. The brakes lasted for so long. Now these Wearever brakes, the dust is all over. :/

When I go slow and put my brakes on, it rubs. Not metal rubbing. Maybe bad rotor?
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Did you bed in your pads?
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Did you bed in your pads?
I did not. I never heard of it. Just looked it up and says brake judder. Probably what I have..

I'm a PC technician with my own business. I only know how to change the brakes and research and all, but never heard of that before. I will look it up and maybe try it.
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Google brake pad bedding. It is a series of hard stops w/o coming to a complete stop to use intense friction and high heat to match your pads and rotors to each other. As Chavez said bendix are good OEM quality brakes
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Okay thank you. I did not know that at all. Now I know. I will try to do that in a while. The one time, going down a mountain - it didn't feel like the brakes had maximum stopping power.. Maybe that is because they were brand new.
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