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Old 10/28/2005, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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cold shifting

does anyone else have a problem with shifting when the tranny is cold?
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Old 10/28/2005, 10:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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try a different tranny fluid.
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Old 10/28/2005, 11:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 10/28/2005, 11:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Not really, but I switched to the Scott Gray mix first week I had the car.
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Old 10/28/2005, 01:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i dont have a manual, but i would think that due to a colder temp, the oil is thicker, and therefore your shifts would be a little harder.
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Old 10/28/2005, 05:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not really, but I switched to the Scott Gray mix first week I had the car.
I had the same problem. The only diff. is that I used REDLINE 85w-95w trany fluid, (the same thats in the EVO VIII). Since then I noticed a big + difference in shifting, especially @ high temp., but since I live in CO I still get the cold shift every once in a while. As long as you let your car warm up enough, you should be fine.
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Old 10/30/2005, 07:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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the only time I do get stiff cold shifting is when it's below 32F outside. Other than that, not really. mine's a 03 GTS 5-spd BTW and am using the stock tranny fluid.

most stick shift cars I've owned have done this in cold weather, and it does have to do with the tranny fluid not being warmed up first is all. on colder mornings, try letting the car idle up a couple minutes before you drive it is all. cures 99% of cold shifting right there and then and try to be gentle on shifting until the car's temp is in the normal operating range.
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Old 10/30/2005, 09:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah mine is terrible when its cold. Especially trying to get it into 2nd......forget about it. Letting the car idle for a couple of minutes does the trick though. It sucks when you wake up in the morning and your late for school or work,and you don't have time to let it ilde.
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Old 10/30/2005, 10:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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shifting sucked not matter what the temp was with the stock fluid. Now i have the "Scott Grey mix" and its a ton better, but in the cold chicago winter mornings its still hard to get into reverse
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Old 10/30/2005, 11:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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try a different tranny fluid.
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Old 10/30/2005, 11:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't get it....what does fluid have to do with the car not going into gear? I've always wondered that...
That seems more like a "mechanical" problem, than something that involves fluid...
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Old 10/30/2005, 11:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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When you shift there is a layer of oil between the syncro and the gear. This oil needs to be squeezed out of that space before syncro can get the gear to the correct speed so the hub can slide over the gear. When the oil is cold, it is thicker and less likely to flow. You can use a slightly thinner oil like B&G syncroshift or redline MTL. You can also use a mixture of the two different types of oil aka "Scot Gray Mix". Right now I am using 2 quarts Redline MT-90 and 1 quart Redline MTL. However, now that it is getting colder I wish I would have used 2 quarts of MTL.

Also, there is an adjusment on the side to side shifter movement that I had never read or heard about until I had to take my transmission apart. It is underneath the battery tray. There are two bolts that hold the lever that the small shifter bushing is attacted to. The holes on the lever base are slotted. If you find the sweet spot your car will shift smoooooooth. If this lever is out of adjustment the mechanism inside of the transmission will try to push on two shift forks at the same time. This will cause the shifter in your hand to feel like it is hanging up as you are going into gear. However, getting this adjustment just right is a PITA.

Another problem that I ran into was that the bushings on the transmission end of the shifter cables were rusted to the pins of the shift levers. This took away a pivot point and caused very rough shifting. To prevent this, take the shifter cables off, sand the shift lever pins with fine sand paper, sand the inside of the metal sleeve of the shifter bushings, and grease all surfaces with axle grease.

Another trick is to take out the center console so you can see your shifter. Loosen the four bolts that hold the shifter base to the bottom of the car. You should be able to move the shifter base around a little to find the sweet spot. Basically this allows you to adjust the tension on the shifter cables. This will not work if you have the ES shifter base bushings though, because they are too hard to deform.

I have come to the conclusion that cable shifters suck.
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I see.
So even though my car is an auto, does it still have a hard time shifting into 2nd? I mean, it doesn't seem like it....actually, when the car is dead cold...it shifts a hell of a lot smoother...wierd. Its a smooth, shift that kinda "blends" into the next gear. Very noticible on the 1-2 shift. Once the car is warm, the shifts are faster, but more abrupt. Been like that since I bought it, and I've flushed it.
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I see.
So even though my car is an auto, does it still have a hard time shifting into 2nd? I mean, it doesn't seem like it....actually, when the car is dead cold...it shifts a hell of a lot smoother...wierd. Its a smooth, shift that kinda "blends" into the next gear. Very noticible on the 1-2 shift. Once the car is warm, the shifts are faster, but more abrupt. Been like that since I bought it, and I've flushed it.
Sorry, I thought you were talking about a 5spd. I don't know jack about automatics, and I only just learned about 5spds because I had to take mine apart.
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Yeah mine is terrible when its cold. Especially trying to get it into 2nd......forget about it. Letting the car idle for a couple of minutes does the trick though. It sucks when you wake up in the morning and your late for school or work,and you don't have time to let it ilde.
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