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Old 10/29/2011, 06:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Drewski's 16g build, a long term process

If you looked at my ride thread (Drewski's '03 Black GS) at all, you would know that I have been collecting parts for an Evo VIII build for almost a year now. It started with a great deal on a stock header manifold, Evo 8 16g turbo, Megan Racing o2 housing and J pipe, most of which I won't be useing, but it has lead to this.

I've been reading and am still reading as much info on the subject as possible. I am by no means an expert at this but i have learned a lot. I am turning my car into a huge project but plan on spending a lot of time reading and Researching and collecting parts before I do the various builds I have planned, starting with my manual trans swap hopefully coming around August. This forum has been a huge help and through it I have made some friends to help guide me along and I am getting to know the right people to ask the right questions.

Tons of thanks to the following: Jared529, Finesse49ers, Masta560, Yahh, Chaveseclipse, Newdie, Silvertune, Osirisfool, isaurio and everyone who has helped me or provided the info used

Finally here are up-to-date pics of my 16g build parts:



I will be using the Megan header, with the 10.5 Evo 9 hotside on the left and the no shaft play, already ground compressor on the right, Megan o2 housing and 2 1/2" spacers











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Evo 8/9 Injen solid pipe kit with OEM J-pipe, OEM intercooler couplers and a Greddy Type-RS BOV











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OEM Evo 8 intercooler



OEM 6g72 Throttle Body



OEM GS fuel pump basket assembly, OEM Evo 8/9 wire harness clips, Evo 8 560 cc injectors, Walboro 255 fuel pump and DSM injector resistor pack







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OEM Evo 8 fuel rail and FPR



40" SS 4AN to m12x1.25 banjo oil feed, 17" 10AN oil return (will be cut shorter), and 2 10" 6AN nipple fittings to m14x1.5 banjo bolt water lines





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OEM 4G64 oil pan with a welded on 10AN oil return fitting



Evo 8/9 GrimmSpeed EBCS with OEM Evo pigtail to be connected to the ECU for ECU controlled boost and Omni Bar 4 MAP sensor





05 Evo 8 GSR ECU p/n 1860a118



3 Evo 8 4g63 header gaskets, header to hotside gasket, o2 housing gasket, compressor to j-pipe gasket and oil return gasket, all OEM

My current goal is to get 300WHP with a manual trans (to be swapped in place of my auto) and my current 4g64 rebuilt. I am looking at the 4g63 head swap and that may be a possibility way down the road. And even further down I plan on a 2G GSX/Evo AWD swap (Yes I have huge pipe dreams)

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I4 Manual trans with under 40k miles and a Quaiffe LSD with under 8k on it (3k with this trans). Rust is minimal and yes it is grimy but nothing a bit of engine degreaser won't fix. Am contemplating a fresh coat of high heat silver before I install it.



OEM Flywheel and ACT Street Disk Clutch with 3k miles



Brake and Clutch pedals with pigtails and OEM manual trans mount (will have a prothane insert when the time comes)



Clutch fluid resivior, clutch master cylinder, clutch slave cylinder and all fluid lines (I plan on using redline clutch fluid)





Shifter base with Megan Racing Short Shifter and ES Shifter Base Bushings, and Shifter cables with Speed Source brass shifter bushings

Not pictured are the Evo 8 ECU to be reflashed with Tephra's or TX4Codeman's 2003+ Manual I4 ROM and the manual 03+ guage cluster

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whats the part number on that walbro? you don't need any that installation kit that came with it.
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Walbro GSS342 255LPH Fuel Pump Mitsubishi Eclipse 1990 - 2005 -this exact one. But the part number is the one tearstone gave in the thread
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Thanks man, I do need the luck.
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Good parts list man. If you want to sell that J Pipe let me know and maybe the AEM Wideband also lol
two n00bs going fi at the same time lets do this lol
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The pump that has the offset inlet is the 341. so your good there.

even though your not doing the swap until next year I'd suggest test fitting as much as possible whenever you get some downtime. It's pain having to order something like a coupler and waiting on it when your ready to throw it on. Or realizing that something just isn't going to work like you planned. That's one ugly turbo
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I have the same j-pipe you've got and I just picked up a new oem jpipe...only 30 bucks online.
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Yea I know what you mean. I'm going to read up on a few installs and mess with the fittment.

Yea this thing needs cleaned and coated . . . Bad
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Where did you get it from? I found a few in the $40 range online
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Its 30 plus the gasket and anything else you need + 10$ Shipping.
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The little tube on the j-pipe is where the wastegate hose goes for boost reference the intake fittings are for bov and crankcase vent most likely.
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The little tube on the j-pipe is where the wastegate hose goes for boost reference the intake fittings are for bov and crankcase vent most likely.
Thanks and that's what I thought but wanted to make sure about the j pipe/waste gait fittings
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The link took me to R C Hill Mitsubishi located in FL, try googling that. Text me if your really are interested in those parts bro
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Search the 2003 Mitsubishi lancer evo and type in turbo and click on the illustration for the turbocharger. Then click on the number for the parts you need.
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Yup I went on last night and checked the price of all gaskets, stock water lines, j pipe, heat shields and intercooler couplers. I think I'm buying used lol. New gaskets and j pipe though. Thanks again for the link
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Be careful with used gaskets. I'm glad I could help though
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It was sent in a huge box, unwrapped or protected, with the intercooler, fuel rail and injectors.

Here's the whole story: http://www.club3g.com/forum/good-guy...clipsegst.html

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Thanks man. Yea that shipping thing sucks but what can you do right? Just making the best of it. Definitely make a thread I would like to see your setup and what not. As for the boxes that is much cleaner than it used to be lol. I condensed and stacked the boxes. There used to be nowhere to walk in the room they were in.
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Didnt post these last night, but after the incident that happened with the shipping of my IC that many of you know about, I found some dents. Are these going to cause a problem?



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The dents in the tanks won't cause a problem unless they develop cracks. Any bent fins are just a loss of efficiency. I'd do a boost leak test on the intercooler before using it at least. They're common and easy to replace cheap if its not on the car yet.
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Decided to put parts collecting on hold till after the holidays/my re-enlistment bonus gets in. Decided I have more than enough time and a nice Christmas for my family was more important.

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sorry to hear that but family comes first, how were u planning on clearing the starter with the evo set up ?? spacers ??
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I'm most likely selling the current AEM wideband I have to someone else who wants to deal with it, and getting another. I've read a lot on and seen a few discussions on the difference between the AEM Wideband and the Innovate Motorsports LC-1 and still would like to know more before I make a descision. Does anyone have any fact as to why which one is better than the other? Fact over opinion. I'm going with ECU controlled boost if that will make a difference.

Thanks for the input guys. I like the features of both and feel they are more or less the same, and am leaning toward the LC-1 just because it will match my other 2 and I can find it cheaper.

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Go with which ever is cheaper or if your paying a tuner go with what they're most comfortable with. They're both accurate the AEM has a prettier gauge and slightly simpler install, but doesn't come with logging software like LOGworks. All your logging will most likely be done with evoscan so doesn't really matter. Innovate reputation is on the decline but I haven't had any problems with mine.

Would take about a half hour to wire it up and see if it was working properly. Seems like a bigger hassle to sell it and buy another when it could be fine. My LC-1 survived a fire and about 30 gallons of water and it was powered up the whole time. I'm sure AEM is just as durable.
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Go with which ever is cheaper or if your paying a tuner go with what they're most comfortable with. They're both accurate the AEM has a prettier gauge and slightly simpler install, but doesn't come with logging software like LOGworks. All your logging will most likely be done with evoscan so doesn't really matter. Innovate reputation is on the decline but I haven't had any problems with mine.

Would take about a half hour to wire it up and see if it was working properly. Seems like a bigger hassle to sell it and buy another when it could be fine. My LC-1 survived a fire and about 30 gallons of water and it was powered up the whole time. I'm sure AEM is just as durable.
Selling and getting another is not too much of a hassle. I already have one of my friend who is willing to buy it. I will take into consideration what my turner prefers. I will be using Evoscan so your right the software is uneccessary. I just would like to know from experience if one is slightly better than the other.

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I prefer the look of the LC-1 too but I care more about performance than looks.
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LC-1 is a bit quicker and more accurate, AEM is easier to install and you seem to hear less problems with AEM. The problems with the LC-1 are usually installer problems from people who can't seem to follow directions I'm sticking with my LC-1
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That's what I figured Greg and you would go with. Just figured I would ask.

Marc, I like the look and styling of the LC-1, but the ease of use and customer support of AEM. Plus I've seen the work Greg can do with the AEM on chavezeclipse's 6g74 N/A tune. I'm just going to stick with the AEM, but I would love see the difference between the 2 on the same car with the same tune . . .

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This is true. In actuality they are both great gauges and you can't go wrong with either but AEM is tried and true and from what I've seen of these newer widebands they haven't separated/distanced themselves from AEM to the point where anyone can say that hands down the others are better.
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Ha, I kno what you mean and added to my last post about the other Charles's tune. Greg's got that thing damn near perfect on WOT.
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dude, eBay. It was brand new, $57 shipped

Although a lot of people use them without any problems, $57 guarantees it's a fake. A limited edition hks that has been discontinued forever on ebay in mass quantities and even comes with mounting flange lol, quite a few red flags there. Sucks HKS USA is forced out of business due to everything they make being flooded by knock offs.
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Although a lot of people use them without any problems, $57 guarantees it's a fake. A limited edition hks that has been discontinued forever on ebay in mass quantities and even comes with mounting flange lol, quite a few red flags there. Sucks HKS USA is forced out of business due to everything they make being flooded by knock offs.
Maybe so, they obviously got me. No wonder it seemed as though it were to good to be true. Should have done more research
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