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DaMitsuMan00 · 06/30/2008, 09:23 PM

Hey i want to get a quick answer before i would have to contact the people who tinted my windshield but i was wondering if the suction cups that hold the radar detector on would damage the window tint with the constant pressure on the two little areas around the suction cups...thanks...maybe a stupid question but would rather have a stupid question that ruined window tints...

2005EclipseGs · 06/30/2008, 09:26 PM

you have your front window tinted? but if it was professional installed itll hold up

morbidjester · 06/30/2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMitsuMan00

Hey i want to get a quick answer before i would have to contact the people who tinted my windshield but i was wondering if the suction cups that hold the radar detector on would damage the window tint with the constant pressure on the two little areas around the suction cups...thanks...maybe a stupid question but would rather have a stupid question that ruined window tints...

You have tint on your windshield?

Tx4Codeman · 06/30/2008, 09:34 PM

Generally you can tint the top 6 inches of the windshield. Varies on state etc.

DaMitsuMan00 · 06/30/2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2005EclipseGs

you have your front window tinted? but if it was professional installed itll hold up

ya i got the whole thing tinted 50% and the top stripe 5%...but it is professionally done so i hope it holds up...and its warrantied for life but i just dont want that to void the warranty either

Black Menace · 06/30/2008, 10:05 PM

Why not ask the people who did your tint?

In general you shouldn't have any issues after you wait out the 7 day period. Just like any window you can't operate for a few days, I wouldn't put anything on it til your time has passed.

Our kids have those suction cup thingys on their window in the Lancer. I tinted the windows and waited 7 days before anything got put on to guarantee the moisture/water has evaporated and the adhesive is dry.

morbidjester · 07/01/2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaMitsuMan00

ya i got the whole thing tinted 50% and the top stripe 5%...but it is professionally done so i hope it holds up...and its warrantied for life but i just dont want that to void the warranty either

No offense, but why 50%?

Cam · 07/01/2008, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by morbidjester

No offense, but why 50%?

Maybe because going any lower on a windsheild would be stupid?? I had my windsheild tinted the same until it cracked and i had to get a new one. From here on out i will always have my windsheild tinted.

Like everyone else said i would not mount it on the windsheild for atleast 7 days. Just attach it to the dash or create a way to mount it to the rear view mirror.

morbidjester · 07/01/2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cam

Maybe because going any lower on a windsheild would be stupid?? I had my windsheild tinted the same until it cracked and i had to get a new one. From here on out i will always have my windsheild tinted.

Like everyone else said i would not mount it on the windsheild for atleast 7 days. Just attach it to the dash or create a way to mount it to the rear view mirror.

I said why %50 because we can't have any on our cars (NC), unless its the top 6in.

R6-Rider07 · 07/01/2008, 08:35 AM

It is actually a "safe" idea, to add to what film is already in the glass. The tint will help incase of any damage done to the windshield, that will cause it to split open. The film will hold the pieces together. Not sure what tint is the lightest, but I think you can go higher then 50%. I wouldn't go any darker tho.

Cam · 07/01/2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by R6-Rider07

It is actually a "safe" idea, to add to what film is already in the glass. The tint will help incase of any damage done to the windshield, that will cause it to split open. The film will hold the pieces together. Not sure what tint is the lightest, but I think you can go higher then 50%. I wouldn't go any darker tho.

Ugh....all windsheilds are made as to not fracture. Tint isnt going to make it any better.

Cam · 07/01/2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by morbidjester

I said why %50 because we can't have any on our cars (NC), unless its the top 6in.

Youre not allowed to do it here in FL...but it didnt stop me. Just like the tint on the rest of my car is darker than legal. Not like i am ever going to get in trouble for it. Its not blacked out or anything.

morbidjester · 07/01/2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cam

Youre not allowed to do it here in FL...but it didnt stop me. Just like the tint on the rest of my car is darker than legal. Not like i am ever going to get in trouble for it. Its not blacked out or anything.

Plus you don't have state safety inspections like NC, but there are ways around that.

R6-Rider07 · 07/01/2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cam

Ugh....all windsheilds are made as to not fracture. Tint isnt going to make it any better.

So with the "UGH" you included in your comment, implies that I should have known this about windshields???...so i'm guessing you haven't seen a windshield that was "fractured"?...other then when a person has been ejected from the car, through the windshield. How could you say it WOULDN'T make it any better?

Cam · 07/01/2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by R6-Rider07

So with the "UGH" you included in your comment, implies that I should have known this about windshields???...so i'm guessing you haven't seen a windshield that was "fractured"?...other then when a person has been ejected from the car, through the windshield. How could you say it WOULDN'T make it any better?

Oh my bad....i forgot to realize that a tiny piece of film tint would keep the dumbass who decided not to fasten his seatbelt from shooting through the windsheild.

04GT · 07/01/2008, 10:36 AM

There might just be some reason for why it's illegal, other than the ability to see. I'm not a windshield expert, but Google works pretty good...

Applying a tint to a laminated glass affects the heat absorption. A darker tint increases the heat abosrption and causes the laminate to get hotter than the recommended specifications for the glass. Heated laminate can lose its strength and be more prone to breakage.

In that instance, a simple gravel dinging the windshield can cause more damage than just a small chip or crack. Hitting the window with a flying body is also going to do more damage.

So, adding film to the front glass is probably less safe than more safe. The question would be how much strength of the laminate is lost due to overheating and how much is gained by adding the tint film.

http://www.tintdude.com/forum/index....0&#entry468290

http://www.tintdude.com/forum/lofive...hp/t41019.html

http://priuschat.com/forums/knowledg...ing-101-a.html

Cam · 07/01/2008, 12:16 PM

Really 50% tint is not all that huge a difference.

sketch66 · 07/01/2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cam

Really 50% tint is not all that huge a difference.

But it's still illegal in Wisconsin. You seriously found someone who did this professionally?

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/WI/

Cam · 07/01/2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sketch66

But it's still illegal in Wisconsin. You seriously found someone who did this professionally?

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/WI/

Welcome to Florida....yes i had a legit shop do it. I payed cash though.

DaMitsuMan00 · 07/01/2008, 03:28 PM

ya muntz audio and video in appleton did it...they even gave me a reciept and it has a lifetime warranty not to purple, bubble, or do anything else...and since my side windows are 15% it actually makes the windshield pretty dark on the outside but you cant notice it on the inside so its safe at night...ill try to get a good picture of it...

DaMitsuMan00 · 07/01/2008, 03:37 PM

stylez · 07/01/2008, 06:44 PM

Appleton, I was born there.

I like that tinted winshield, but there's no way in hell I could get by with that here in Cali.

DaMitsuMan00 · 07/01/2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stylez

Appleton, I was born there.

I like that tinted winshield, but there's no way in hell I could get by with that here in Cali.

i actually live in kaukauna if you can remember that...such a small city...but in the sun light you cant really tell that it is tinted but it still looks good...i really recommend it to anyone...it makes such a difference

stylez · 07/02/2008, 08:34 AM

Ah yes, Kaukauna, the wonderful little town a few miles north on the 41 where I received a speeding ticket from a state trooper on my way to the Packers NFC Championship game in January.

DaMitsuMan00 · 07/02/2008, 03:04 PM

we gotta do what we gotta do in ktown i guess....haha sorry to hear about that...

R6-Rider07 · 07/08/2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cam

Oh my bad....i forgot to realize that a tiny piece of film tint would keep the dumbass who decided not to fasten his seatbelt from shooting through the windsheild.

HAHA..i get your point. I however wasn't setting my point on the tint stopping someone from going through the window. I was just stating that its only a benefit to have. (added film to have a stronger resistance of shattering, and the darkness to block the bright sun.) Thats it. I now see though that Google says it's not such a good idea, and those sites give their reasons. To each their own.
It's all good tho my man. You bad

whitley87 · 07/11/2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cam

Ugh....all windsheilds are made as to not fracture. Tint isnt going to make it any better.

A windshield produces very fine pieces of glass when it breaks and having the windshield tinted will keep all of that from going into your eyes in case of an accident. At one of my competitions I rolled my truck busting the windshield in the upper left corner. I got a little glass in my eye but if it wasn't for my tint strip at the top I'm sure my eyes would have been filled with glass. Sorry to bring this thread back up but I thought I'd share my experience.

finesse49ers · 07/11/2008, 08:04 PM

I too have a radar detector mounted to the windshield and was gonna tint it also. After reading this thread I think I'm gonna hold off on that now. I don't wanna sacrifice safety for style.

06/30/2008, 09:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
DaMitsuMan00 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wisconsin Vehicle: 02 JGC Limited Posts: 306	radar detector on window question Hey i want to get a quick answer before i would have to contact the people who tinted my windshield but i was wondering if the suction cups that hold the radar detector on would damage the window tint with the constant pressure on the two little areas around the suction cups...thanks...maybe a stupid question but would rather have a stupid question that ruined window tints... __________________ LD

06/30/2008, 09:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tx4Codeman Legendary Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: AL Vehicle: 2003 GT 3.5L Posts: 4,609	Generally you can tint the top 6 inches of the windshield. Varies on state etc. __________________ http://www.club3g.com/forum/members-...-03-3g-gt.html

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Black Menace n00b hater Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Grafton, WI Vehicle: 2003 GTS/2008 Lancer GTS Posts: 5,169	Why not ask the people who did your tint? In general you shouldn't have any issues after you wait out the 7 day period. Just like any window you can't operate for a few days, I wouldn't put anything on it til your time has passed. Our kids have those suction cup thingys on their window in the Lancer. I tinted the windows and waited 7 days before anything got put on to guarantee the moisture/water has evaporated and the adhesive is dry. __________________ October 2008 COTM Customized TYC's - From SC-Customs! Website: Sport Compact Customs

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R6-Rider07 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Vehicle: 2K2 GT Posts: 637	It is actually a "safe" idea, to add to what film is already in the glass. The tint will help incase of any damage done to the windshield, that will cause it to split open. The film will hold the pieces together. Not sure what tint is the lightest, but I think you can go higher then 50%. I wouldn't go any darker tho. __________________ //\\ // )_.-"""-._,-""-. \\ ^,'_\ /_\ ) ./ /O\\| \|/O\\ / \ \_/\| \|\_/ \_/ \ .' _ `. / .-. ( . (_):. ) ,-. ( `._`._.-._, _, ) ) ( ( .------------- ) `-' `- '

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06/30/2008, 09:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
2005EclipseGs aka KickzRUs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Syracuse, NY Vehicle: 05 Eclipse Posts: 221	you have your front window tinted? but if it was professional installed itll hold up

07/01/2008, 10:36 AM	#16 (permalink)
04GT Dread Pirate Roberts Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southeast U.S.A. Vehicle: 2004 GT Titanium Pearl Posts: 361	There might just be some reason for why it's illegal, other than the ability to see. I'm not a windshield expert, but Google works pretty good... Applying a tint to a laminated glass affects the heat absorption. A darker tint increases the heat abosrption and causes the laminate to get hotter than the recommended specifications for the glass. Heated laminate can lose its strength and be more prone to breakage. In that instance, a simple gravel dinging the windshield can cause more damage than just a small chip or crack. Hitting the window with a flying body is also going to do more damage. So, adding film to the front glass is probably less safe than more safe. The question would be how much strength of the laminate is lost due to overheating and how much is gained by adding the tint film. http://www.tintdude.com/forum/index....0&#entry468290 http://www.tintdude.com/forum/lofive...hp/t41019.html http://priuschat.com/forums/knowledg...ing-101-a.html

07/01/2008, 03:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
DaMitsuMan00 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wisconsin Vehicle: 02 JGC Limited Posts: 306	ya muntz audio and video in appleton did it...they even gave me a reciept and it has a lifetime warranty not to purple, bubble, or do anything else...and since my side windows are 15% it actually makes the windshield pretty dark on the outside but you cant notice it on the inside so its safe at night...ill try to get a good picture of it... __________________ LD

07/01/2008, 03:37 PM	#21 (permalink)
DaMitsuMan00 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wisconsin Vehicle: 02 JGC Limited Posts: 306	__________________ LD

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stylez Pee in the sink Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: 2005 Black GTS Posts: 5,783	Appleton, I was born there. I like that tinted winshield, but there's no way in hell I could get by with that here in Cali. __________________ Stylez' 2005 GTS

07/02/2008, 08:34 AM	#24 (permalink)
stylez Pee in the sink Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: 2005 Black GTS Posts: 5,783	Ah yes, Kaukauna, the wonderful little town a few miles north on the 41 where I received a speeding ticket from a state trooper on my way to the Packers NFC Championship game in January. __________________ Stylez' 2005 GTS

07/02/2008, 03:04 PM	#25 (permalink)
DaMitsuMan00 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wisconsin Vehicle: 02 JGC Limited Posts: 306	we gotta do what we gotta do in ktown i guess....haha sorry to hear about that... __________________ LD

07/11/2008, 08:04 PM	#28 (permalink)
finesse49ers R.I.P. silverside Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Queens, NYC Vehicle: '03 6G74+, '98GSX, EVO IX Posts: 5,264	I too have a radar detector mounted to the windshield and was gonna tint it also. After reading this thread I think I'm gonna hold off on that now. I don't wanna sacrifice safety for style.