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martin m · 02/14/2010, 12:53 PM

Well I have the front of my car lowered and when I moved to the back to take the struts off, the bottom bolt came off but the strut wouldn't budge at all. I read everything and tried the hammer and chiesel, deep creep, and today I took it to a shop and they couldn't get it. The guy said it was rusted on and I might have to cut it. I haven't tried to torch it yet however. If i cut it then could i just get another bolt the same size and have a shop put the bolt on then go back and change out the struts?

heres a pic of the dragracer

Black_out · 02/14/2010, 12:56 PM

I'd get a torch on there first and see what you can do. When working with rusty bolts heat is your best friend.

martin m · 02/14/2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_out

I'd get a torch on there first and see what you can do. When working with rusty bolts heat is your best friend.

I've heard that is one of the best options. Unfortuneatly I don't have a torch but my friend said I could maybe use a hairdryer.

Black_out · 02/14/2010, 01:04 PM

Hairdryer more than likely isn't going to get hot enough, unless it's like a super dryer.

Do you have a pic of the bolt that is stuck?

aaronsspyder · 02/14/2010, 01:12 PM

I know people have problems getting the strut to slide off and they end up cutting the ring part of the strut. I was lucky and mine slid right off.

martin m · 02/14/2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_out

Hairdryer more than likely isn't going to get hot enough, unless it's like a super dryer.

Do you have a pic of the bolt that is stuck?

I think I'm gonna go with the torch. And the bolt thats behind the bottom of the strut will come off, but the part with the bushing will not budge at all.

martin m · 02/14/2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronsspyder

I know people have problems getting the strut to slide off and they end up cutting the ring part of the strut. I was lucky and mine slid right off.

You lucky bastard.

Bitter · 02/14/2010, 01:14 PM

keep working at it, me and my friend thought we were boned back there too until we got lucky and persistence got it done.

martin m · 02/14/2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bitter

keep working at it, me and my friend thought we were boned back there too until we got lucky and persistence got it done.

I would really like that to work, but we were hammering and prying and chiseling forever. My friend is calling a guy he knows to see if he would be able to torch it tomorrow.

martin m · 02/14/2010, 04:18 PM

Ok, so the bolt I have in my hand comes off but the strut and bushing will not come off the little bar on the inside since it's rusted and what not. I tried the hairdryer and PB blaster and everything today. Tomorrow I am taking it to a guy that can torch it.

Black_out · 02/14/2010, 04:20 PM

Can you get a pry bar and wedge it in there and pry it off? I think that's what I used on a friends cavalier. It was a while ago though, so I don't remember exactly.

martin m · 02/14/2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_out

Can you get a pry bar and wedge it in there and pry it off? I think that's what I used on a friends cavalier. It was a while ago though, so I don't remember exactly.

woudn't work man lol

Black_out · 02/14/2010, 04:40 PM

You sure? If you got a long pry bar inbetween the shock bottom and the metal rod it touches you could be able to get enough force to pry it off there.

Bitter · 02/14/2010, 04:41 PM

torch will work.

Meest00GT · 02/14/2010, 04:44 PM

The first pics you posted remind me of this white integra around town that rolls around with the front damn near scraping and its rear way up

Hopefully I don't run into the same problem as you when I go to install my new setup when it gets a little warmer around here.
I can already see the car is going to look great with those wheels and the drop.

martin m · 02/14/2010, 04:49 PM

yea I'm anxiously waiting to see the final outcome

scarr · 02/14/2010, 08:39 PM

looks like a job for an air hammer, and pickle fork.

tracer bullet · 02/14/2010, 08:49 PM

^ Yep. Or the torch. Or cutting it with a Dremel. Basically it's brute force that does it, whichever path you go.

This is really common. I'd consider closing the thread since it's one of those things that *has* been asked a ton of times. But it's somewhat entertaining so it'll stay open...

martin m · 02/14/2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tracer bullet

^ Yep. Or the torch. Or cutting it with a Dremel. Basically it's brute force that does it, whichever path you go.

This is really common. I'd consider closing the thread since it's one of those things that *has* been asked a ton of times. But it's somewhat entertaining so it'll stay open...

fawk

eclipse001 · 02/14/2010, 10:55 PM

Your car looks badass

HIJACKER · 02/14/2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by martin m

Unfortuneatly I don't have a torch but my friend said I could maybe use a hairdryer.

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Originally Posted by martin m

I tried the hairdryer

Holy fuck.

martin m · 02/15/2010, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by eclipse001

Your car looks badass

thanks

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Originally Posted by HIJACKER

Holy fuck.

Bitter · 02/15/2010, 07:13 AM

hey now, those hairdryers can get pretty hot.

possibly a heat gun could cook the bushing out of there...but you'll still need to get the crap off the stud that the strut goes onto.

Phil · 02/15/2010, 09:46 AM

We used an angle grinder to cut off the bottom part of the ring and even then, part of the rubber bushing was still seized to the shaft. We then used a dremel with some high grit sandpaper to remove the bushing remains. After that, we put ANTI-SEIZE onto shaft before installing the new shocks.

MCMike37 · 02/15/2010, 09:51 AM

Yup, I had the same issue way back when Sam and I were swapping suspensions. Tried everything under the sun in our power to no avail. Took it to a shop, put it on a lift, and tried a pry bar with a 7 foot pipe with no luck. The only thing left was to torch the bushing, and then you could work on the inner "sleeve" with various tools. I think we put a pair of vice grips on there and were able to break it free.

And I did drive back with the bushing torched. Just took it slow and careful since the rear shock was in pieces at that point. Figured it would be fine for a one way trip and replacing the shock as soon as I got back to Sam's place.

tracer bullet · 02/15/2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil

ANTI-SEIZE

Did that after the first time I replaced the rears (about a year or two after buying the car new), and have done it ever since. Makes a huge difference.

travion · 02/15/2010, 09:24 PM

Damn, your car looks good lowered on those gold wheels. Can't wait to see the rear lowered too.

martin m · 02/15/2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by travion

Damn, your car looks good lowered on those gold wheels. Can't wait to see the rear lowered too.

believe me I can't either. We will have to meet up sometime

martin m · 02/16/2010, 08:19 PM

Ok, so I just bought a set of KYB GR2's for the rear, so I'm waiting on those to ship so I can lower the back and I will probably get the front 2 GR2's later on when I have more money lol

travion · 02/16/2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by martin m

believe me I can't either. We will have to meet up sometime

Yea, we will have to when it gets warm!!

martin m · 02/16/2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by travion

Yea, we will have to when it gets warm!!

Sounds good bro.

smty 33 · 02/16/2010, 08:52 PM

martin m · 02/16/2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by smty 33

haha just save that for when the back is dropped

and I would have bought those rear struts but I kinda needed brand new struts anyways.

scarr · 02/16/2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smty 33

STINKBUG!!!

martin m · 02/16/2010, 09:26 PM

Haha cause the back is up?

rapairmanrage · 02/16/2010, 10:35 PM

What springs did you go with?

martin m · 02/16/2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rapairmanrage

What springs did you go with?

Tein S-techs. I love the stance they give

scarr · 02/16/2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by martin m

Haha cause the back is up?

yeah, that is an old muscle car term, for when you jack the rear in the air for big meats back there... like a stinkbug.

martin m · 02/16/2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scarr

yeah, that is an old muscle car term, for when you jack the rear in the air for big meats back there... like a stinkbug.

martin m · 02/20/2010, 09:56 AM

Got these in this morning. Hopefully gonna put them on today if I can get the old ones torched off. Then wash and go take some pics

Rylands Dad · 02/20/2010, 01:52 PM

hairdryer thing was a joke right?

martin m · 02/20/2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rylands Dad

hairdryer thing was a joke right?

hey I tried it along with everything else. Just need the torch and I will be good now. No more stinkbug lol.

wright06jhs · 02/20/2010, 10:17 PM

Your car is going to look great once you get the back lowered (not that it doesnt look great already)

My struts should be here monday

Im going with Megan Racing springs on my Stratus.

martin m · 02/21/2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wright06jhs

Your car is going to look great once you get the back lowered (not that it doesnt look great already)

My struts should be here monday

Im going with Megan Racing springs on my Stratus.

Nice, I wanna see some pics when you get it dropped.

Rylands Dad · 02/22/2010, 12:19 PM

just use a propane one. Get the kits for like $15 at the hardware store.

martin m · 02/22/2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rylands Dad

just use a propane one. Get the kits for like $15 at the hardware store.

I might do that.

Rylands Dad · 02/22/2010, 05:24 PM

If all you need is heat, that will work fine.

wright06jhs · 03/14/2010, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by martin m

Nice, I wanna see some pics when you get it dropped.

Lowered today, take a look at my members ride thread.

Will get more pics once the rain goes away.

02/14/2010, 12:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
martin m new project = s13? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: rock hill, SC Vehicle: 2003 eclipse gt sporty Posts: 3,015	Need help ASAP! Well I have the front of my car lowered and when I moved to the back to take the struts off, the bottom bolt came off but the strut wouldn't budge at all. I read everything and tried the hammer and chiesel, deep creep, and today I took it to a shop and they couldn't get it. The guy said it was rusted on and I might have to cut it. I haven't tried to torch it yet however. If i cut it then could i just get another bolt the same size and have a shop put the bolt on then go back and change out the struts? heres a pic of the dragracer __________________

02/14/2010, 01:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
aaronsspyder Senior Member Tetris Champion! Hexxagon Champion! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pikesville/Baltimore, MD Vehicle: 08 IS350 Posts: 2,543	I know people have problems getting the strut to slide off and they end up cutting the ring part of the strut. I was lucky and mine slid right off. __________________

02/14/2010, 04:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
martin m new project = s13? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: rock hill, SC Vehicle: 2003 eclipse gt sporty Posts: 3,015	Ok, so the bolt I have in my hand comes off but the strut and bushing will not come off the little bar on the inside since it's rusted and what not. I tried the hairdryer and PB blaster and everything today. Tomorrow I am taking it to a guy that can torch it. __________________

02/14/2010, 04:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
martin m new project = s13? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: rock hill, SC Vehicle: 2003 eclipse gt sporty Posts: 3,015	yea I'm anxiously waiting to see the final outcome __________________

02/16/2010, 08:19 PM	#29 (permalink)
martin m new project = s13? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: rock hill, SC Vehicle: 2003 eclipse gt sporty Posts: 3,015	Ok, so I just bought a set of KYB GR2's for the rear, so I'm waiting on those to ship so I can lower the back and I will probably get the front 2 GR2's later on when I have more money lol __________________

02/14/2010, 08:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
tracer bullet Spring King Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: St. Paul, MN Vehicle: '11 135i, '98 Ranger 4x4 Posts: 4,640	^ Yep. Or the torch. Or cutting it with a Dremel. Basically it's brute force that does it, whichever path you go. This is really common. I'd consider closing the thread since it's one of those things that has been asked a ton of times. But it's somewhat entertaining so it'll stay open...

02/14/2010, 10:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
eclipse001 BoostN4G63T Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Racine, Wisconsin Vehicle: 99 GSX Posts: 451	Your car looks badass

02/15/2010, 09:46 AM	#24 (permalink)
Phil Ph.D > me Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Chicagoland Vehicle: '04 TSX ; '07 G35x Posts: 4,952	We used an angle grinder to cut off the bottom part of the ring and even then, part of the rubber bushing was still seized to the shaft. We then used a dremel with some high grit sandpaper to remove the bushing remains. After that, we put ANTI-SEIZE onto shaft before installing the new shocks.

02/15/2010, 09:51 AM	#25 (permalink)
MCMike37 Photoshop Bitch Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cali Vehicle: 2000 GT Posts: 4,499	Yup, I had the same issue way back when Sam and I were swapping suspensions. Tried everything under the sun in our power to no avail. Took it to a shop, put it on a lift, and tried a pry bar with a 7 foot pipe with no luck. The only thing left was to torch the bushing, and then you could work on the inner "sleeve" with various tools. I think we put a pair of vice grips on there and were able to break it free. And I did drive back with the bushing torched. Just took it slow and careful since the rear shock was in pieces at that point. Figured it would be fine for a one way trip and replacing the shock as soon as I got back to Sam's place.

02/15/2010, 09:24 PM	#27 (permalink)
travion Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: raleigh, NC Vehicle: 03 eclipes gts Posts: 1,140	Damn, your car looks good lowered on those gold wheels. Can't wait to see the rear lowered too.

02/16/2010, 08:52 PM	#32 (permalink)
smty 33 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Hampshire Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Posts: 327

02/16/2010, 09:26 PM	#35 (permalink)
martin m new project = s13? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: rock hill, SC Vehicle: 2003 eclipse gt sporty Posts: 3,015	Haha cause the back is up? __________________

02/16/2010, 10:35 PM	#36 (permalink)
rapairmanrage Meow? Join Date: May 2008 Location: 9 Mile, MI Vehicle: 2001 Eclipse GT Posts: 278	What springs did you go with?

02/20/2010, 09:56 AM	#40 (permalink)
martin m new project = s13? Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: rock hill, SC Vehicle: 2003 eclipse gt sporty Posts: 3,015	Got these in this morning. Hopefully gonna put them on today if I can get the old ones torched off. Then wash and go take some pics __________________

02/20/2010, 01:52 PM	#41 (permalink)
Rylands Dad Don't Take Kindly Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Windsor ON Vehicle: 08 Sport Trac Adrenaline Posts: 647	hairdryer thing was a joke right?

02/20/2010, 10:17 PM	#43 (permalink)
wright06jhs Shut up. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lexington, Ky Vehicle: 2007 Infiniti G35X Posts: 3,684	Your car is going to look great once you get the back lowered (not that it doesnt look great already) My struts should be here monday Im going with Megan Racing springs on my Stratus. __________________ 07G35x\|Premium\|15%tint\|HKS\|Zwheels\|TopSpeed\|BC BR Coils\| My Ride G35Driver

02/22/2010, 12:19 PM	#45 (permalink)
Rylands Dad Don't Take Kindly Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Windsor ON Vehicle: 08 Sport Trac Adrenaline Posts: 647	just use a propane one. Get the kits for like $15 at the hardware store.

02/22/2010, 05:24 PM	#47 (permalink)
Rylands Dad Don't Take Kindly Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Windsor ON Vehicle: 08 Sport Trac Adrenaline Posts: 647	If all you need is heat, that will work fine.

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