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Old 04/20/2006, 02:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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***Tips to avoid getting jacked***

I found this on caraudio.com from someone who got it from http://audioforum.termpro.com/ubb/ul.../t/000677.html, it's mainly tips on how not to get your car and audio equipment jacked. Sorry if this is a repost, I searched and didn't find anything, but even if it is I still think it's a good refresher

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• ALWAYS use common sense. Don't 'bump' where you live, esp. if you live in an apartment
• If at all possible, avoid putting any stickers on your car (be it performance or audio) they just scream "steal me! steal me!"
• If you go to car shows/soundoffs, I suggest removing your license plate temporarily. This will at least make it hard for people to remember your car is packing what gear(s)
• Consider getting dark limo tint and car cover. Remember - out of sight, out of mind.
• when you go to a mall or a store, turn down your system at least 2 miles BEFORE you get there. When a thief hears you bumpin down the road, he will follow you till you park and jack your equipment when you leave. Anybody who's desperate for money will do ANYTHING to steal something.
• Please Please Please install an alarm. I know about 30 people who pack thousands of dollars worth of competition-grade Audio Equipments in their SPL vehicles and they don't even have a $100 car alarm How stupid can you be..
• 'modify' your car alarm.. It might be an overkill, but I'll install 10 additional siren around the car - two inside the hood, two underneath beside the cat, two in the trunk, and four in the cabin. Thieves don't have enough time to cut all those wires while they're blaring 130bD.
• I betcha right now I can guess where you all have your alarm brains.. they're under the dash. right? that thing can be disabled in less than 5 seconds! Don't be a fool, move that brain somewhere hidden. Mine has mixed wire colors and false wires all around, Not even a professional installer can unload it.
• modify your Kickpanels to hide the hood release latch under the dash. Mine is covering the whole thing so you will have to reach inside the kicks to pop the hood. One time I took it in for an oil change it took the guy about 10 minutes to figure out where the hood release is This is extremely important so that the thief can't disconnect your +12 source and disable your alarm.
• I can't emphasize enough how extremely important security screws are. These are oddly-shaped head screws that you can get from any hardware store. Nearly ALL thieves carry a flat screwdriver and/or phillips screwdriver all the time. A hex or square head screw will definately slow them down. If your amp is bolted to the amp rack like this, there's NO WAY they can take your equipment.. but make sure your amp rack is bolted as well.
• Ask your insurance provider if they can cover your equipment.
• Be careful on who you show your system to... remember that every person is a possible thief. Even people who post here.
• Don't leave anything "interesting" inside your car (cellphone, jewelry, heck even a quarter) this will only attract passerbys that can possibly lead to theft.
• make sure all your fuses are good and have the right rating. Moreover, make sure your equipments are FUSED. In worst case scenario, after an equipment is stolen, wirings short out literally putting the car on fire.

The next time you roll down the parking lot, remember to keep them bass down cause having a system is like having sex--- you'll never know when you're gonna get jacked

Additional Tip: For those of you with websites about your ride... BE CAREFUL! That website can easily turn into a 'shopping catalog' for a thief. Try not to list personal information on the site (ie what city you live in, what school you go to). If you have any pictures of your ride, always blot out the licence plate. Also, if you have your own domain name try to use a different mailing address then the one your car is located at (ie Use a PO Box). Remember that's public information and can easily be obtained by doing a "WhoIs" report (http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois).

ALSO-- Manual fuel cut off switches.....hey they cost a freakin dollar. Invest in them. Its a simple cut and splice between the fuel pump line and will piss the hell out of anyone attempting to move your car.

Speaking of the hood, Hiding the hood pop switch is a step in the right direction but will only stop petty kids who are just f'ing around in the game. The real vulnerabillity is in the line that connects the lever to the hood pop mechanism...in most cars these are routed throught the driver side fender. Pull the plastic molding back strip the insulation and get a plier to pull the wire inside and POP ....you have an open hood.
solutions? reroute the wire somewhere else or add additional lines to confuse.

The main point is no matter what you cannot stop someone from getting into your car. You can SLOW them but not totally stop. There are big holes in the side of the car covered with glass....i believe people call these windows. Since it is imposible you to stop someone from getting in one should focus on slowing them down as much as possible as well as preventing the moving/disabling of the car.

An expensive alarm won't do much for you. They are all the same with some added bells and whistles. All you really need is a starter kill, and dual stage siren....an expensive alpine alarm with LCD screens does not do anything if it can be yanked from under the dash.

BUY A PEDAL LOCK
[someone] has thought many hours about this and still have yet to figure a way around it. The infomercial is correct. That pedal is made of some hard freakin steel. And even if you could manage to break the pedal off youd have to sit with your ass facing either up or our of the car for a long period of time....not something smart to risk..

Record time sawing through a steering wheel....48 seconds.

I don't know if alarm stickers (such as "Protected by Viper", etc) is a good idea or not. Some say it's a good deterrent, some say it makes it easy for code scanners to 'unlock' your code. If somebody knows more about this issue, please shed some light...

Another security feature that you can get is Wheel Locks. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...item=1846139244 I don't know yet if it can be defeated, but it's worth a try.

LoJack is also a good investment. Although they run around $600 installed, you might get something in return from your insurance company just for having it. Also see 'peace of mind'

IMO, the *only* equipment that you cannot protect is your subwoofers. Whether you put a grille or not, if a thief can't pull it out, he will stab it with screwdriver. (reconing a sub is way cheaper than replacing it)

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Old 04/20/2006, 02:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This post is regarding alarm systems and how to best protect your equipment from being stolen.

Here are some common features that are included with most decent quality alarm units:
115dB Siren
Impact Sensor
Keyless Entry
Starter Kill
Horn Honk
Parking Light Flash
Headlight Flash (Low and Hi)
Hood and Trunk Pins0
Door Pins

Although those features will stop most timid thieves out there, they probably aren't going to stop veteran thieves, crack heads, and thieves with a lot of guts. So here are some ideas on how to go one step further in preventing these people from stealing our hard-earned belongings.

1) This is the major problem: A thief can simply bust out your driver's side window, reach in without opening the door, pop your hood, cut the battery cable, and now the car alarm is totally disabled. For a skilled thief this process would literally take about 15 seconds. There are two things I would recommend you do to prevent a thief from disabling your alarm in this manner. The most recommended method is for you to invent in a steel cable hood lock. The cable runs from under the dash of your car, through the firewall, and mounts itself underneath the hood. It is locked and unlocked using a key from the inside of the vehicle. Without this key, the hood cannot be popped open. This will prevent easy access to your battery. At this point the thief can either run away, try to grab and dash, or try to access the battery by crawling under the car. Although I highly doubt a thief would go through the trouble of crawling under your car to cut the battery cable, it has happened before. Mount your multi-tone siren next to the battery pointed downward. Mount a peizo siren next to it, also pointing downward. We want to make it very uncomfortable for our thief to stick his head under the car with those sirens blazing right in his ear.
If you aren't interested in the hood lock, the other method is to invest in a siren with an internal battery "backup system". This siren will continue to sound even after the battery has been cut and power has been disabled. The siren is disabled using a special key. A thief would have to take this siren and smash it on the ground in order to disable it. Because of this, I recommend you use more than one battery backup siren in your alarm system.

2) Most alarm installs are done by splicing into one of the vehicle's constant +12 volt wires either at the steering column or at the fuse box. I am pretty certain that a thief can smash the fuse box with a crowbar or baseball bat and destroy the vehicle's electrical fuses. Of course this would disable the alarm system without the thief even having to mess with the battery. To prevent a thief from using this method to disable your alarm system, I recommend that you run your own constant +12 volt and ground wire from the alarm's brain straight to the battery, and fuse the 12+ wire at both the brain and the battery. This way, if the fuse box gets smashed it won't affect the alarm at all.

3) At this point our thief is more than likely very frustrated. There's a chance he will now choose to get under the dash and snip some wires to disable the alarm. Any single bright colored or red wires are going to be targets. I recommend that you run all of your wires through black loom tubing so that they appear to be part of the vehicle's factory wiring. Wrap the loom in black electrical tape to prevent the thief from opening up the loom and looking inside. And use black plastic zip ties to mount the loom high up inside the dash. Mount a peizo siren under here pointed downward toward the floor. It will be extremely uncomfortable for a thief to have his head anywhere near this type of siren.
But you definitely do not want to mount the alarm's brain here under the dash. You want to hide the brain as best as possible. I recommend you mount the brain inside the dash, underneath your center consol if possible, or in the trunk. You could also mount it under one of the seats but a thief may check there.

4) I just want to mention the sirens once more. Most alarms come with a single multi-tone siren, around 115dB or so. I recommend you purchase one or two more multi-tone sirens and several 115dB peizo sirens and incorporate them into your alarm system. The louder the alarm is when it is tripped, the more attention is drawn to your vehicle and the more likely a thief is to give up and run away. Not to mention it will hurt a thief's ears if he goes anywhere near the peizos.

5) Let's talk about something I mentioned earlier, the good old grab and dash. Even with a security system of this caliber, that won't necessarily stop a thief from popping your trunk lid using the trunk latch inside of the vehicle, grabbing your subwoofer enclosure or amplifier, and running away with it. If possible you may want to remove your trunk latch. That way, you would have to use your key in order to open the trunk lid.
Another thing you could do is bolt your subwoofer enclosure or amplifier rack to the trunk floor. Use safety torx or another odd-shaped screw to do this. Chances are a thief won't have the correct tool to unbolt your equipment and will give up.
Also, you want to secure your headunit to your dash's frame so that it cannot be removed using those slide rail "keys". Use safety torx screws for this as well.

6) If you want to take your security system one step further, I recommend you incorporate a blue police beacon. This may be considered overkill by some, but it is very effective in preventing thieves from continuing with the robbery once the alarm is tripped and the police light is activated. Especially in a public area such as a parking lot or a residential neighborhood. People don't really tend to pay attention when they hear someone's car alarm go off in a parking lot, but everyone tends to take notice when they see those blue rotating police lights. It would draw a lot of attention to your vehicle, therefore causing the thief to flee. Of course, it would have to be mounted somewhere on the inside of the car.

7) Always check with your insurance provider to make sure your stereo equipment is covered in case of a robbery. If it is not covered under comprehensive, as them if you can take out a separate policy on your equipment. Make sure your insurance provider has receipts for all of your equipment and pictures as well. Often times when a thief realizes they are unable to steal your equipment they will destroy it in anger. If your insurance company refuses to cover your stereo equipment, I highly suggest you switch to a different provider who offers this.

8) Besides insurance, the most important thing is to not draw attention to your vehicle. Car audio stickers are a dead giveaway to a thief that the vehicle has something worth stealing inside of it. Vehicles with expensive rims, exterior modifications and body kits, alteza tail lights, racing decals and stripes, etc, are also targets for thieves. Always remove your faceplate before exiting your vehicle. Always lock your doors. Do not tell anyone that you do not trust 100% that you have an expensive audio system. Turn OFF your stereo about five minutes before you stop and park your car somewhere. Bumping your system in the mall parking lot as you look for a space to park may not seem like a big deal, but you have pretty much told every would-be thief in the area to "steal my stuff". Also, if you are in high school or college, NEVER turn on your system anywhere near campus. There are a lot of stupid kids out there who have no respect for other people's property. Be smart and protect yourself.
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very good info

any recommendations for alarm systems? I know that viper just came out with a system that actually has a remote display that will show the sensor-locations in the car and which ones specifically have been tripped...it apparently works for up to half a mile as well.
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That seems to be a pretty good alarm system, but just because it has upgraded display screen doesn't mean its so much better than all the others. A cheap alarm system will also do if you hide the brain in a good spot and trick the thieves with extra wires and etc..
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He is talking about an alarm with a 2 way pager remote. It alerts you when your alarm is tripped, even if you cant hear it. It is a good idea if you have the money for one.

My brother installs alot of alarms. And he runs power right off the battery, and uses lots and lots of electrical tape so they cant see any of the wires. He tapes everything.
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He is talking about an alarm with a 2 way pager remote. It alerts you when your alarm is tripped, even if you cant hear it. It is a good idea if you have the money for one.
Oh, ok I see what you mean. That would also be a very good option incase you cannot hear your alarm going off.
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sry that's what I was referring to.
I was thinking about investing in one because I'm not usually going to be within earshot of my car (work, etc.) but am usually within the signal range of that alarm.
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Yea that would probably be the optimal thing to do if you can't always hear your car because a lot of people don't really pay that much attention to car alarms anymore.
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Certain parts of this make me wonder if the author was high when he wrote this.

Telling you to run the 12v to the battery so that someone doesn't disable your alarm by smashing the fusebox? Come'on.. what kind of a moron would smash a fuse box before cutting the battery cables? Secondly, a small wire going to the battery just screams "alarm!". In this entire post the only mention of a battery backup is in the siren? What about an actual battery backup on the alarm itself? That would cover all the sirens, remove the need for hood locks, hiding the latch, etc.

There is some good info here but the author must be a paranoid person.
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There is some good info here but the author must be a paranoid person.
Lives or works in ghetto maybe?
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how about just put your shit in an alarmed garage?

My car sits an alarmed garage with the alarm on...

I may be paranoid, but my shit dont get stolen no more.
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'modify' your car alarm.. It might be an overkill, but I'll install 10 additional siren around the car - two inside the hood, two underneath beside the cat, two in the trunk, and four in the cabin. Thieves don't have enough time to cut all those wires while they're blaring 130bD.
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The most recommended method is for you to invent in a steel cable hood lock. The cable runs from under the dash of your car, through the firewall, and mounts itself underneath the hood. It is locked and unlocked using a key from the inside of the vehicle. Without this key, the hood cannot be popped open. This will prevent easy access to your battery.
Great ideas!

Also, hood pins in older cars.
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• Don't leave anything "interesting" inside your car (cellphone, jewelry, heck even a quarter) this will only attract passerbys that can possibly lead to theft

My friend got his truck broken into because he had some change for a parking meter in his ash tray. The smashed 2 windos and dented his driver side door, all for a lousy $3-4
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Ummmmmm can a fuel cut off switch be defeated how effective is it im interested in getting one.....
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I imagine ANYTHING can be defeated... just a matter of how long it takes and how obvious the thief would look while doing it. However, I don't think a fuel cutoff device would be a bad thing at all. I always assumed that is what the stock immobilizer is for.... the car will start if they break the steering column but it shuts down immediately if the programmable key wasn't used to start the car. I believe tryig to start it several times without the right key will cause the car to be immobile until it is serviced by Mitsu (could be wrong on that but I thought the Mitsu tech told me that last time I was their with ECU/immob questions).
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Well what about a battery cutoff I saw some cool ones around.....
Do they work well or at all can they be defeated easily?
Well if I have an imobilizer how secrue is that?.....
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an alarm is probably the best bet cuz if someone REALLY wants your car they could just put it up on a truck. if u have an alarm that has a tilt and window sensor then it is about best you can do w/o boltin the darn car to the ground. you have to trust people so far.
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I found this they make alot of claims not sure if its really worth it.....
I'm just being paraniod cause it's my first car and theres been alot of recent car theft in our local mall and I work there so yea, my moms car got stolen there just last week luckily all our cars have insurance so if all goes bad atleast im covered..... But I still would not like to part with my baby
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Another security feature that you can get is Wheel Locks. eBay I don't know yet if it can be defeated, but it's worth a try.
Wheel locks are so easy to defeat, it's a joke. Just get an outsized cheap-o socket from any auto parts store that you can wedge over the wheel lock and hammer it into place. Then take a breaker bar and pull off the socket with the wheel lock inside. There ya go, free wheel all for the cost of one ruined $3 socket.

Not that I recommend that people not get wheels locks but realize that the best thing you can do is get insurance that will cover the cost of replacing your wheels if they're aftermarket. There's no credible way of preventing wheel theft.



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That might slow em down a tad, and that's going to make ALOT of noise. That'd be about 150 worth of lugs though eh?
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I did a google search on the hood locks, and the one I found is aournd $50, and it also cuts off the starter. Pretty good deal, if you ask me.
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how about getting viper alarm stickers on your windows but having a different one? like prestige or somethin?

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Hey, I know this is an old thread but I feel it is very useful and important. I have an alarm system and my mechanics classes are in a rough area theft and such is just as big as the street racing, my last car had gotten broken into and my subs were stolen. Any ideas of how I can boost my security on a student budget??

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^^ Theres latinos in omaha nebraska?
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tons. no joke either if you don't speak spanish at least a little bit then you won't understand over 3/4ths of the city.
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Good info here, you can also install razor blades where the typical person would grab if they wanted to steal something, i had a guy break into my car last year and he lost half a finger in the process, didnt steal anything in the cab but he did manage to get my sub because i didnt disconnect the trunk latch, dirrrrr, but i think it was an even trade, window+sub=finger?
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