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Old 01/22/2007, 10:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Scot Grey (RRE) Manual Transmission Mix

Since alot of people ask what this is. I will give you guys the mixture and what oil should be properly used.

From RRE's Website
"Who the heck is Scot Gray and what is his mix? Well Scot is some famous internet personality/ tuner/ DSM guru guy and he had this special mix of 2 quarts of Redline MTL gear oil along with one quart of BG Syncroshift. He told one guy, they told another... someone told the internet and now people always ask for the "Scot Gray Mix" So we sell it. Some trannys just shift better. BG and Redline MTL are very similar. Basically a thinner gear oil with all the right combination of slippery and grippy qualities to make your transmission both shift well and last a long time. "

2x Redline MTL SAE 70w-80 API GL-4 Gear Oil
1x BG SyncroShift Part# 790


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how much? I need some now
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When I ordered it form them, it came to about $30.
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How long until you got it? Im going on a trip to FL on the 2nd and i need it quick
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How long until you got it? Im going on a trip to FL on the 2nd and i need it quick

Since its coming from Cali, it took about 5 business days via UPS to get to my door in FL.
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I always wondered how close, or how different, this is to what Mitsu recommends? Are people actually solving a problem with this or just hell bent on modifying anything possible?

I'm not saying it's bad, or good, just wondering more info -
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To tell you the truth Mitsu Recommends 75w-90 gear oil. Now if you would try to get 3 quarts of "Mitsu OEM fluid" it owuld probably cost you the same.
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I always wondered how close, or how different, this is to what Mitsu recommends? Are people actually solving a problem with this or just hell bent on modifying anything possible?

I'm not saying it's bad, or good, just wondering more info -
Its not going to solve any problems that exists in the transmission.

The history of this mix is described in the original post;

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"Who the heck is Scot Gray and what is his mix? Well Scot is some famous internet personality/ tuner/ DSM guru guy and he had this special mix of 2 quarts of Redline MTL gear oil along with one quart of BG Syncroshift. He told one guy, they told another... someone told the internet and now people always ask for the "Scot Gray Mix" So we sell it. Some trannys just shift better. BG and Redline MTL are very similar. Basically a thinner gear oil with all the right combination of slippery and grippy qualities to make your transmission both shift well and last a long time. "
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Bringing this thread back from the dead! Hey Kris, are you currently using Redline MTL 70W-80 or 75W-90? Do you know if there is any improvement when using BG syncroshift 2 part #792 instead of using BG Syncroshift.
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Bringing this thread back from the dead! Hey Kris, are you currently using Redline MTL 70W-80 or 75W-90? Do you know if there is any improvement when using BG syncroshift 2 part #792 instead of using BG Syncroshift.
I would like to know also because I am badly due for a change!

I just read that is was the 75w90

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MT-90 or 75W-90NS?
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MT-90 or 75W-90NS?

I just contacted RRE. I will update this when I find out.

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Well, I found out that the local Subaru dealership has BG syncroshift in stock for $19.95. So I'll be getting that and 2 quarts of Red line MT-90 from a local performance shop too. I'm 99% sure it is MT-90 instead of 75W-90NS. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
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There is a new BG synchroshift that is all "syn". I haven't tested the new one out yet. I still have two bottles of the old version. I'm using the regular redline 75-90 in the Scion and 75w-80 in the Eclipse. I have to say that I prefer the 75w-80 over the 90. But it is really hard to come by and generally there is very little difference in performance. Eitherway, it takes about 1000 miles to get the full effect of this mix. Straight of the bat there is a difference, but its not super significant. Later on you will see how much smoother everything works.
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There is a new BG synchroshift that is all "syn". I haven't tested the new one out yet. I still have two bottles of the old version. I'm using the regular redline 75-90 in the Scion and 75w-80 in the Eclipse. I have to say that I prefer the 75w-80 over the 90. But it is really hard to come by and generally there is very little difference in performance. Eitherway, it takes about 1000 miles to get the full effect of this mix. Straight of the bat there is a difference, but its not super significant. Later on you will see how much smoother everything works.
Wow... I know this discussion has gone around for many years, but in all honesty, I never noticed a LOT of improvement using the Scot Grey mix. Yes, it was better than OEM, but not by much. I have, however, noticed MUCH better results using Amsoil MTF. I don't sell the stuff, and in all honesty, I never even knew about it until recently. I was, however, VERY satisfied with the improved shifts, especially into reverse and 2nd gears. It costs less than the Scot Grey mix and it's from a company that's been around for a long time. I've been using their synthetic motor oil and oil filters for many, many years and never had a problem with them.

Having used OEM, Scot Grey and Amsoil, I'd say it's Amsoil, hands-down.
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This is what I got from RRE when I sent them the message.

It is two Redline MTL and one BG. Just ask for it by name (Scot Gray Mix) $29 for the three quarts.
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Just got it from RRE. It is 1 qt bg syncro shift and 2 quarts redline MTL 70w80 just like the picture shows above!!!!!! It was 29 dollars plus 14 for shipping. Im not sure if shipping is a flat rate or not. Your shipping charge could be more or less.

Im going to change mine soon.

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I have! I put a thread in the product review forum. Initially I was disappointed, but after 1000 miles it was great. I'm not sure I really understand why it took so long, but it did get better with time. I just put in three quarts of it straight up. The hot rattle I used to sometimes get is gone and it definitely shifts smoother.
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For the Evo I ordered 3 quarts of Amsoil API GL-4 75W-90 weight as Mitsu recommends for there Manual transmission fluid and 2 quarts of AMSOIL 75W-90 Severe gear API
GL-5 for the transfer case & rear end, both synthetic of course.

Well, after running it for the past year I find it to be just as good if not better.

You may wanna check it out.
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Bringing this thread back.

But anyways, it seems everyone is ordering this mix from RRE directly. Is it possible to get the ingredients from different shops to avoid the waiting time and shipping costs?
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I haven't been able to find the BG Synchroshift locally, but one small shop near me carries all the RedLine fluids, so I've been running just Redline MT-90 and shifting has been nice and smooth.
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Alright cool that is nice to know, I might have to give that a try.
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Your local Subaru dealership should have some BG syncroshift in stock.
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The Dodge dealer also sells BG syncro shift and syncro shift II. I think it goes in Neons. That is where I got mine.
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I can't seem to find the address for this famous "Scott Gray Mix", can someone give me the link to the website to purchase it please?
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Greg's advise means a lot to me . . . he has a good bit of experience. However, I noticed that the product description mentions that it's not recommended for most synchro-type transmissions. What's up with that?
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What I can tell you is that we've run Redline in cars making over 500whp in DD's and track whores and it's great stuff. It's what's in my transmission. Also what I put in Charles, ask him how it shifted.
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What I can tell you is that we've run Redline in cars making over 500whp in DD's and track whores and it's great stuff. It's what's in my transmission. Also what I put in Charles, ask him how it shifted.
That bish shifted great!! I even mentioned that in the build thread when I first picked up the car with the new motor in it. That was the first thing I noticed. It made a very noticeable improvement.
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I know this thread is old but I read somewhere in the forums that when you replace transmission oil, that it you can spray a can brake cleaner into the filler hole to loosen up all the gunk inside. Is this better than flushing the tranny with gear oil?
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I just changed to the red line shock proof oil... Ill let ya know how it goes but on the first drive it already seems to have made a difference.
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Does anyone know what's so different between Synchroshift 1&2? I couldn't find anything on BG's site at all.
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Does anyone know what's so different between Synchroshift 1&2? I couldn't find anything on BG's site at all.
I've read from some other members that the SS II is synthetic gear oil.
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did the scott gray mix like 1,000 miles ago. i love it especially with some energy suspension shifter bushings. its the best combo
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Tried it, not too impressed. Shifts werent as smooth as they were with straight mt-90
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