I maybe totally off the mark here...but does it seem like that the usual suspects keep snapping their axles? I mean afaik (again could be totally off the mark) most people don't snap axles very often. Though when they do, its usually happens repeatedly (as opposed to a one time sorta thing).PharmEcis said:I've snapped axles in NA form and Rulez has probably gone through more axles than I have.
FTW = ?callmeebryan said:Automatic transmissions FTW!!!!!! :-D
We DO NOT have the same engines as the VR4s. In fact we have almost nothing in common with the Twin Turbo variant of the 6G72. Besides the immense head differances, the blocks themselves are also VERY different.callmeebryan said:Well, lets just say the actual potential of this motor has not really been found.
But, come this summer, you will sure be seeing a few 500+hp cars (including myself).
Keep in mind, we have the SAME block as the dodge stealth rt/tt and 3000gt vr-4, and there are a few 800-900hp ones out there. The only difference in their complete motor is that those cars have dual overhead cams and we have single overhead cams, and the ignition setup is different.
We dont have the same exact block, PERIOD! Don't go around telling people we do. The only other car in the world that has the same block is a NA DOHC block.callmeebryan said:FTW means for the win! Auto trannies put less stress on the axles compared to 5spds.
Um.... we have the exact same BLOCK. 3.0L V6 6g72. I did not say we have the same internals as the VR-4's.Their bottom ends have forged cranks and forged pistons, we are stuck with junk pistons stock.
We have alot in common with the VR-4's, actually. Alot of parts performance companies make for that motor we can use on this motor (lower intake manfolds,fuel rails, injectors, pistons, rods, crankshafts, to name a few).
Not to mention the new tiburons are just destroked 6g72's. Intake manifolds and stuff from that car will work on ours with little modification.
jesus! have you ever tried to bolt up the DOHC and exhaust manifolds onto our blocks?! just say no! well i have! GT Motorsports has bolted on the DOHC from a VR-4 and the exhaust manifolds from the same and they both fit! we took measurments of the engine after assembly and the damn thing fit!Jetblackness said:We dont have the same exact block, PERIOD! Don't go around telling people we do. The only other car in the world that has the same block is a NA DOHC block.
The fact that we can use SOME parts from the VR4 DOES NOT change this fact at all. The most imporant parts such as the DOHC head, and the exhaust manifold do not bolt on. In fact we can't even swap out of the stock block for a VR4 block.
because the VR-4 is MADE to run boost where as the eclipse 6g72 is NOT.PharmEcis said:The VR4 block is a 16 bolt mains while our block is an 8 bolt mains. The VR4 can rev to 7k while we are limited to 6k.
There is a CONSIDERABLE amount of difference from the VR4 engine to the DOHC or SOHC 6G72 in the castings and other areas.
You got me on the bolt spacing part. The exhaust manifolds bolt up...WEASELFURY said:jesus! have you ever tried to bolt up the DOHC and exhaust manifolds onto our blocks?! just say no! well i have! GT Motorsports has bolted on the DOHC from a VR-4 and the exhaust manifolds from the same and they both fit! we took measurments of the engine after assembly and the damn thing fit!
Bryan never said the block was the same. he merely was saying that we had basic similarities with the engine.
callmeebryan said:Um.... we have the exact same BLOCK. 3.0L V6 6g72.
Your not being serious about the last part right?if we threw forged internals, plopped on the DOHC and the exhaust manifolds, and threw a forged crank on it also, what would have.
pretty much a VR-4 correct??
We have simlarities between both blocks. The same can be said with the a majority of 6G72 used throughout the ages. But this still does not mean they are all using the TT block!stop being so damn anal. you know what he was trying to say. and you shouldnt be telling people things that arent true. find out first of the heads and manis bolt up first then you can try to argue with people about it.