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Yikes, but at least you're ok! Good luck on the EVO, I'd personally go with a GSR. Save some money and get a true manual, its a win/win in my book.
Thanks! Yeah, I've been going through my finances and I think instead of the EVO right away I'll get a new 2011 (enter sensible car with good resale value around $18,000 with 0% APR) and get a condo instead. I need to stop throwing money away with rent at my current apartment. A condo will be first, then eventually sell the (previously stated car) for my EVO.
 

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Since I do not have a garage or place to keep the car to part out I will be getting what I can off of it then trying to sell as is.

If anyone is interested PM me.

I already have someone interested in the fuel door. I will be able to take out the HID kit but mostly everything else will stay on the car.
 

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Sure is absolutely right. You made an excessive maneuver and over-corrected the car causing an accident. The individual behind you (regardless of what they were doing) never made impact with your vehicle. So in the eyes of the law, YOU are at fault.

Failure to maintain full time and attention, reckless driving, improper lane change, etc. You could fall into any of those categories (or a few others) depending on how the scene is analyzed and what they wrote on the report based on several other factors which you still haven't shared.

But, that's my professional opinion based on the little but you DID share. So roll your eyes all you want kiddo, you made a mistake and over-reacted.
 

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Sure is absolutely right. You made an excessive maneuver and over-corrected the car causing an accident. The individual behind you (regardless of what they were doing) never made impact with your vehicle. So in the eyes of the law, YOU are at fault.

Failure to maintain full time and attention, reckless driving, improper lane change, etc. You could fall into any of those categories (or a few others) depending on how the scene is analyzed and what they wrote on the report based on several other factors which you still haven't shared.

But, that's my professional opinion based on the little but you DID share. So roll your eyes all you want kiddo, you made a mistake and over-reacted.
That pretty much sums it up. If he DID hit you it would be an entirely different story. Good luck with the outcome on your car though.
 

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Sure is absolutely right. You made an excessive maneuver and over-corrected the car causing an accident. The individual behind you (regardless of what they were doing) never made impact with your vehicle. So in the eyes of the law, YOU are at fault.

Failure to maintain full time and attention, reckless driving, improper lane change, etc. You could fall into any of those categories (or a few others) depending on how the scene is analyzed and what they wrote on the report based on several other factors which you still haven't shared.

But, that's my professional opinion based on the little but you DID share. So roll your eyes all you want kiddo, you made a mistake and over-reacted.

Listen kiddo, before you run your mouth read a little. I never said anywhere it was not my fault. I simply said what happen. In my professional opinion as a decent human you need to take a lesson from everyone else on here. No one else jumped on my back on who's fault it was, they all asked if I was ok and sent their concerns and condolences. I appreciate what you are trying to do but have a heart and some sense before hitting that submit button, ok? Thanks, bye
 

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That pretty much sums it up. If he DID hit you it would be an entirely different story. Good luck with the outcome on your car though.
Thank you, even if he did hit me there would be more factors to look at but again thanks for the concern :)
 

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But, that's my professional opinion based on the little but you DID share. So roll your eyes all you want kiddo, you made a mistake and over-reacted.
Or he could have said screw it, and let the SUV hit him. Who cares about them getting hurt right? Sometimes professional opinions aren't always the correct ones. In general, when it comes to the law you're better off hitting something than swerving to avoid it.
 

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Or he could have said screw it, and let the SUV hit him. Who cares about them getting hurt right? Sometimes professional opinions aren't always the correct ones. In general, when it comes to the law you're better off hitting something than swerving to avoid it.
:agreed:
 

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"Avoid a speeding SUV on the way to work"

Which means there was no contact with the other car. Which means the other vehicle did not actually force you off the road. Which means YOU drove your vehicle off the road into the safer barrier totaling it.

That's simple logic. Read it a few times, if you don't get it.

Unless the other car physically hit yours and changed the path of travel, the fact that you went off road, is your responsibility.

You freaked out due to another vehicle speeding in the right lane, and you over-reacted and lost control on your own accord. The other vehicle speeding in the right lane does NOT immediately equal loss of control.

Think about what you're saying. A speeding SUV goes into the right lane to pass ....and that causes you to have no choice but to crash? That makes no sense in the slightest.

You're completely missing the point that your reaction made the situation worse and could have caused a larger accident. For some reason, you view this as if you made the RIGHT choice to swerve, loose control, and crash. Well, you're wrong.

I'm making a big deal about this because there are a lot of young kids on this forum who will read your post and reaction and automatically assume that's a wise choice and it needs to be known that this is NOT HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REACT ON THE STREET.
 

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"Avoid a speeding SUV on the way to work"

Which means there was no contact with the other car. Which means the other vehicle did not actually force you off the road. Which means YOU drove your vehicle off the road into the safer barrier totaling it.

That's simple logic. Read it a few times, if you don't get it.

Unless the other car physically hit yours and changed the path of travel, the fact that you went off road, is your responsibility.

You freaked out due to another vehicle speeding in the right lane, and you over-reacted and lost control on your own accord. The other vehicle speeding in the right lane does NOT immediately equal loss of control.

Think about what you're saying. A speeding SUV goes into the right lane to pass ....and that causes you to have no choice but to crash? That makes no sense in the slightest.

You're completely missing the point that your reaction made the situation worse and could have caused a larger accident. For some reason, you view this as if you made the RIGHT choice to swerve, loose control, and crash. Well, you're wrong.

I'm making a big deal about this because there are a lot of young kids on this forum who will read your post and reaction and automatically assume that's a wise choice and it needs to be known that this is NOT HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REACT ON THE STREET.
I have to be honest. I cant believe you are making a big deal of this. You have been a member on this forum for a long time and for the most part command respect.

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"Which means there was no contact with the other car. Which means the other vehicle did not actually force you off the road. Which means YOU drove your vehicle off the road into the saferbarrier totaling it."
That's....what I said...again, I never said it wasn't my fault nor his. I simply described the situation as it unfolded.


"That's simple logic. Read it a few times, if you don't get it."
Apparently YOU need to read it a few times more.



"Unless the other car physically hit yours and changed the path of travel, the fact that you went off road, is your responsibility."
....again, I never said it wasn't

"You freaked out due to another vehicle speeding in the right lane, and you over-reacted and lost control on your own accord. The other vehicle speeding in the right lane does NOT immediately equal loss of control."
Did you even read what I wrote?!

"Think about what you're saying. A speeding SUV goes into the right lane to pass ....and that causes you to have no choice but to crash? That makes no sense in the slightest."
Think of it in terms of all of what I wrote in terms of seconds. He may have been going 70 or 75 when he passed the car behind me (not crazy speeds lets be honest). He changed lanes almost at the same time I did but I was going 60 or 65 (technically we were both speeding). He did surprise me enough to have me turn the wheel too much and on top of that I was still kinda sleepy. All of this added up to me crashing (AGAIN, NOT SAYING IT WASN'T MY FAULT!)

"You're completely missing the point that your reaction made the situation worse and could have caused a larger accident. For some reason, you view this as if you made the RIGHT choice to swerve, loose control, and crash. Well, you're wrong."
That's your misinterpretation of what I wrote. No where did I say, "He was speeding and almost hit me so I had no choice but to act quietly and thus lost control!" Furthermore, I also never said what I did out of instinct (NOT CONSCIOUS CHOICE) was the "RIGHT" choice. And you're right, this could have been a lot worse. I could have hurt or killed someone, I could have been killed myself, doesn't that alone warrant more open-minded compassion and sympathy?

"I'm making a big deal about this because there are a lot of young kids on this forum who will read your post and reaction and automatically assume that's a wise choice and it needs to be known that this is NOT HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REACT ON THE STREET."
Again I have to be honest. I can not fathom why you are pressing this so much. This is not a thread about HOW TO DEAL WITH LANE CHANGES, or HOW TO CONTROL YOUR CAR WHEN AVOIDING ANOTHER CAR, or even HOW TO BE STUPID AND TOTAL YOUR PRIDE AND JOY.

I am in NO WAY trying to promote what I did as a teaching tool. If anything, you can see this as a learning experience. Instead of attacking me, why don't you HELP me and others know WHAT to do in situations like this or better yet, just say what everyone else did, "Glad your ok, sorry for your loss." Please, with all do respect, you are being a jerk.

I would hope that you would have more faith in the general population on this forum than to think them naive enough to read this "graveyard" thread and think its some sort of example for them to follow.

You really need to re-think your position on this. I am really not trying to piss you off, simply trying to address something that plagues a lot of forums and the world in general: People jumping to conclusion and generalities to justify some self righteous sense of policing everyone else. You need not jump down peoples throats about petty stuff (especially when you're mostly inaccurate), instead I suggest compassion, understanding, and common sense.

To everyone who DID honestly send me their best wishes, THANK YOU!!
 

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I have to be honest. I cant believe you are making a big deal of this. You have been a member on this forum for a long time and for the most part command respect.

First off...



That's....what I said...again, I never said it wasn't my fault nor his. I simply described the situation as it unfolded.




Apparently YOU need to read it a few times more.





....again, I never said it wasn't



Did you even read what I wrote?!



Think of it in terms of all of what I wrote in terms of seconds. He may have been going 70 or 75 when he passed the car behind me (not crazy speeds lets be honest). He changed lanes almost at the same time I did but I was going 60 or 65 (technically we were both speeding). He did surprise me enough to have me turn the wheel too much and on top of that I was still kinda sleepy. All of this added up to me crashing (AGAIN, NOT SAYING IT WASN'T MY FAULT!)



That's your misinterpretation of what I wrote. No where did I say, "He was speeding and almost hit me so I had no choice but to act quietly and thus lost control!" Furthermore, I also never said what I did out of instinct (NOT CONSCIOUS CHOICE) was the "RIGHT" choice. And you're right, this could have been a lot worse. I could have hurt or killed someone, I could have been killed myself, doesn't that alone warrant more open-minded compassion and sympathy?



Again I have to be honest. I can not fathom why you are pressing this so much. This is not a thread about HOW TO DEAL WITH LANE CHANGES, or HOW TO CONTROL YOUR CAR WHEN AVOIDING ANOTHER CAR, or even HOW TO BE STUPID AND TOTAL YOUR PRIDE AND JOY.

I am in NO WAY trying to promote what I did as a teaching tool. If anything, you can see this as a learning experience. Instead of attacking me, why don't you HELP me and others know WHAT to do in situations like this or better yet, just say what everyone else did, "Glad your ok, sorry for your loss." Please, with all do respect, you are being a jerk.

I would hope that you would have more faith in the general population on this forum than to think them naive enough to read this "graveyard" thread and think its some sort of example for them to follow.

You really need to re-think your position on this. I am really not trying to piss you off, simply trying to address something that plagues a lot of forums and the world in general: People jumping to conclusion and generalities to justify some self righteous sense of policing everyone else. You need not jump down peoples throats about petty stuff (especially when you're mostly inaccurate), instead I suggest compassion, understanding, and common sense.

To everyone who DID honestly send me their best wishes, THANK YOU!!
Man, looking at some of these forums and it seems like that in every one, hijacker manages to be an a**hole. Some people...

I think its crazy you missed everyone on that highway. At least you got a little lucky. Sad about the car though. Thats my fear with mine. If I crash, all that mod work goes down the drain. Glad you're alright though man.
 

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I think its crazy you missed everyone on that highway. At least you got a little lucky. Sad about the car though. Thats my fear with mine. If I crash, all that mod work goes down the drain. Glad you're alright though man.
Yep, exactly how I feel. Only consolation I have is that I didn't do any major projects yet.
 

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Glad you are okay. I know in the seconds accidents can happen that it is hard to make the right judgement on who goes where/what should have happened. Regardless of all of that, I am glad that you are alright and it wasn't any worse then it turned out being!
Yeah, I think mostly anyone who finds themselves in an accident reacts without thinking at least a little. Sucks but you're right, it could have been a lot worse. Thank you for your concern :)
 

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How are the TYCs? (The driver's looks okay, but if the passenger side is just lens damage I might still be interested- if the back is cracked, then no). Is your cluster cover the blue one? is it damaged any? Is your clockpod cover black? Is it damaged any?
 
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