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alright first off i have a 2003 rs. i dont know whether to re-flash mine to the evo ecu or buy one and wire it in. the prob. is i don't know a lot about re-flashing and the shop thats doing my tunning after i get the kit on can't reflash it for me, so if i have the money would it be easier to buy a evo ecu and just have them install it and run duel ecu's?
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alright first off i have a 2003 rs. i dont know whether to re-flash mine to the evo ecu or buy one and wire it in. the prob. is i don't know a lot about re-flashing and the shop thats doing my tunning after i get the kit on can't reflash it for me, so if i have the money would it be easier to buy a evo ecu and just have them install it and run duel ecu's?
Yea, it would be easier for you to have them wire it up in a dual ECU format. You're auto right? Then dual ECU is a good solution.

I have a question though, why can't the shop flash it for you? If they can't flash it, then they aren't going to be able to tune it for you. Thats how you tune with a dual ecu setup. You read/flash on the EVO ECU which controls the engine.

Also, if you're auto, the EVO ROM won't work in your ECU, it won't control the transmission.
im manual not auto first off. and they tune evo's there so i would presume that if i had the evo ecu whether it was flashed or not they could tune it.

Yea, it would be easier for you to have them wire it up in a dual ECU format. You're auto right? Then dual ECU is a good solution.

I have a question though, why can't the shop flash it for you? If they can't flash it, then they aren't going to be able to tune it for you. Thats how you tune with a dual ecu setup. You read/flash on the EVO ECU which controls the engine.

Also, if you're auto, the EVO ROM won't work in your ECU, it won't control the transmission.
Ok, so they could flash your ECU for you.

DUAL ECU isn't an option, it would be pointless. You can just unplug your old ECU and plug in the EVO one. That is what I would do, and thats what I recommend.
Yea, it would be easier for you to have them wire it up in a dual ECU format. You're auto right? Then dual ECU is a good solution.

I have a question though, why can't the shop flash it for you? If they can't flash it, then they aren't going to be able to tune it for you. Thats how you tune with a dual ecu setup. You read/flash on the EVO ECU which controls the engine.

Also, if you're auto, the EVO ROM won't work in your ECU, it won't control the transmission.
Steadily is a Smart man!! Good luck silver I think u can just swap the the entire ecu out or just flash the evo to ur stock ecu from what I read from Flash's thread!!

here's the thread...(http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87947) its a patch for us rs and gs guys!! I think its ur option but i would probably just by an evo ecu and swap it, its a lot easier I think.
I would say if they "can't" flash your ECU, find a new tuner.

As far as the ECU itself goes, I would say for a budget just flash the Evo rom. However, if you want more performance, then the Evo Ecu would be your best bet. They literally take minutes to swap.

I do have a question for you though. Do you have to pass emissions in your area? If you do, then the Evo Ecu is not just simple plug and play. I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done, but you can either put in the missing solenoids the Evo has that the 3g doesn't. Or you can just wire in resistors to get rid of the CEL. I know there is a thread around the FI section on it, I just don't remeber which one it is.

But like Steadly and I said, if they can't flash it, they can't tune it. I would dump them.

Good Luck.
they said they couldnt flash it for some reason though. they said something about the wiring or something. bs basically. (i know u can flash it though its just i dont know how) i'd rather have it professionally done. can u only run duel ecu's with auto's?

Ok, so they could flash your ECU for you.

DUAL ECU isn't an option, it would be pointless. You can just unplug your old ECU and plug in the EVO one. That is what I would do, and thats what I recommend.
they said they couldnt flash it for some reason though. they said something about the wiring or something. bs basically. (i know u can flash it though its just i dont know how) i'd rather have it professionally done. can u only run duel ecu's with auto's?
When using dual ecu's, everything that controls the Auto tranny stays hooked up to the AUTO ECU, and anything that it needs to know which gears to be in.

Anything else thats going to control the engine, (IE everything a manual tranny ECU does) goes to the EVO ECU. There is nothing a manual ECU can do that an EVO ecu can't, therefore no reason to keep it in there. With a manual transmission, its either or.
this crap is so confusing. lol i have the money i just don't feel like screwing with the dang thing. i just want somebody to do it and be done with it, so that i can tune it.

they said they couldnt flash it for some reason though. they said something about the wiring or something. bs basically. (i know u can flash it though its just i dont know how) i'd rather have it professionally done. can u only run duel ecu's with auto's?
Go ahead and get an EVO ECU, that way if you need to pass emissions sometime in the future, its an option. Its not a requirement to do the whole resistor thing to get your car tuned right.
my emissions inspection inst until december and yea im going to have to pass that. so if i get a evo ecu what would i have to do to get it up and running?

Go ahead and get an EVO ECU, that way if you need to pass emissions sometime in the future, its an option. Its not a requirement to do the whole resistor thing to get your car tuned right.
UP and running? - plug it in and scale the injectors, set latency

Pass Emissions? - thats a whole different game, only possible with the EVO ECU, not the rom flashed onto the stock manual tranny ecu. It involves buying the missing sensors, and wiring them up. Also this can be used in conjunction of disabling some of the emissions stuff, like the EGR valve and others.
so im going to just buy the evo ecu and scale the injectors, and set the latency and that will be good for daily driving on a regular bases? then when it gets close to emissions time i just have to basically get all of the check engine lights to disappear?

UP and running? - plug it in and scale the injectors, set latency

Pass Emissions? - thats a whole different game, only possible with the EVO ECU, not the rom flashed onto the stock manual tranny ecu. It involves buying the missing sensors, and wiring them up. Also this can be used in conjunction of disabling some of the emissions stuff, like the EGR valve and others.
so im going to just buy the evo ecu and scale the injectors, and set the latency and that will be good for daily driving on a regular bases? then when it gets close to emissions time i just have to basically get all of the check engine lights to disappear?
Well, you'll still need to get it tuned. If you're planning on paying somebody to do it, and they can tune EVO's, then you should be ok. After its tuned, it should be great for a DD.

If you don't have the turbo on yet, you can just scale the injectors and set latency, work with the MAF scaling, and maby a few other settings to get it to run like stock.
i know how to install everything, so me and a bunch of friends are doin the install. and then i am taking it on a trailer to the shop to get them to put the evo ecu in and tune it.

Well, you'll still need to get it tuned. If you're planning on paying somebody to do it, and they can tune EVO's, then you should be ok. After its tuned, it should be gread for a DD.

If you don't have the turbo on yet, you can just scale the injectors and set latency, work with the MAF scaling, and maby a few other settings to get it to run like stock.
i know how to install everything, so me and a bunch of friends are doin the install. and then i am taking it on a trailer to the shop to get them to put the evo ecu in and tune it.
I wouldn't pay the shop to install it. Its a one bolt/4 plug deal. But, if you want to, go for it.
I say do it yourself. Its a direct swap. No harness cutting or anything.
aight. i just talked to my friend and he said instead of swaping the stock ecu to the evo ecu. that i should get the greddy emanage blue. and then use the stock ecu. then take it to a shop and they can tune it.

I say do it yourself. Its a direct swap. No harness cutting or anything.
I highly don't recommend it. I ran the Emanage Ultimate and it worked ok, but you can NEVER have good HP numbers when you can't control timing well, and e-manage has never been able to control timing well. Bottom line, e-manage is old sub-EVO ECU technology...lol
i mean im looking for 230 to 250hp thats not that high. what other tuning stuff do you recommend besides the evo ecu thing then?

I highly don't recommend it. I ran the Emanage Ultimate and it worked ok, but you can NEVER have good HP numbers when you can't control timing well, and e-manage has never been able to control timing well. Bottom line, e-manage is old sub-EVO ECU technology...lol
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