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Rosewill R5605-BK Black 0.8mm SECC cold rolled Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail : $64.99 -$20.00 Instant $44.99

ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail: $189.99 -$10.00 Instant $179.99

EVGA 512-P2-N773-AR GeForce 8600GTS 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail: $179.99 $179.99

COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-550-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 550W Power Supply - Retail: $69.99 $69.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6750 - Retail
: $189.99 $189.99

G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail: $139.99 -$30.00 Instant $109.99

Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM: $42.99 $42.99

ASUS P5M2-8SB4W 80mm SuperFlo CPU Cooler - Retail: $14.99 $14.99

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM: $5.99 $5.99

Subtotal: $838.91



So, uh, whatcha think? Really don't want to go any more expensive. Tried for something that is upgradeable if I want to later. I play some games, but not really an uber avid gamer (though I see myself relapsing into WoW after I get this :lol:)

I figure I'll eventually get another card for SLi, and probably switch to a 64 bit OS for more RAM usage in the future too. Maybe. Anyway, thoughts?
 

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8mb cache on the HD is gay, and why get the 8600gts, when you could spend 50 more and have an 8800gt?
 

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I'm not an expert :) but the only thing I would change on that right now is the get a 2GB RAM for half the price for now and use that money to get a bigger hard drive. A 250gb HD is around $60 on newegg :dunno: Perhaps an HD 3850 or 8800gt for the vid card also :dunno:

I'm sure Inferno will have better input than I.
 

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I've got plenty of storage on the computer I'm using now, and I'll be using it as a file server, so space isn't an issue.

And as for the video card, I was trying to keep it under $200. Money's not a HUGE issue, but too many "a little upgrade here, a little there" will pwn my face. Of course, if I hold off until after xmas, that wouldn't be a problem. I just want something now, I'm getting that itch :lol:
 

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Then what is this going to be for then? You've made some odd choices in my opinion. A pricey SLI motherboard, but then you go with an 8600gts. 4GB of ram, and then a slowish, tiny (for this day and age - I personally think it is a waste of money for an 80G hard drive when so much more can be had for so little extra). I'd suggest waiting until after Christmas, spending a few extra bucks and get what you will want to upgrade to anyway. :)
 

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Alright, here's my two cents. Unless you are a heavy First Person Shooter player, drop the idea of having multiple video cards. The thought of having two 8600GTS or whatever might sound cool, but it's a waste of money if you never use it to its potential. If WoW is about as devastating as it gets, a single decent video card will be more than enough. People that wants SLi or Crossfire setups are after the following:

1.) High framerates
2.) Benchmarking
3.) Bragging Rights

Unless you have despise ATi (I don't think you do, IIRC you have a Radeon X800 in your current machine), the best performing card for under $200 is the Radeon HD 3850 by a long shot. Here is what I think would suit the situation better:

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
Newegg.com - BIOSTAR TForce TP35D2-A7 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - OCZ Gold 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100226L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg.com - Rosewill R5605-BK Black 0.8mm SECC cold rolled Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-550-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 550W Power Supply 110-115V/ 220-230V Nemko, TUV, cUL, CE, BSM, FCC, CCC - Retail

That's about $833 shipped, the power supply has a $30 MIR that will bring it to about $800.

If you are still dead set on having nVidia, no need to get a 512MB 8600GTS. The memory controller is only 128 bit, which will not address all 512MB of video RAM efficiently. In addition to that, the GPU is not fast enough to make good use of such a large amount of memory, so if anything, it serves as more of a marketing gimmick. The 256MB models are considerably cheaper, and will offer the same performance. Here's my revision of your list if you want to stick with the SLi setup:

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
Newegg.com - ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - OCZ Gold 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Newegg.com - MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg.com - Rosewill R5605-BK Black 0.8mm SECC cold rolled Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-550-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 550W Power Supply 110-115V/ 220-230V Nemko, TUV, cUL, CE, BSM, FCC, CCC - Retail

This one's about $780, but there is $50 worth of MIR so it's $730 when everything's said and done. I dropped the motherboard down a notch because you don't need two full speed PCI-Express 16x slots unless you're sticking 8800GTs or something quicker in there.

As Surf stated, 8MB of cache on a hard drive is a bit outdated nowadays. Stick with 16MB cache to help with the transfer speeds and consider the extra space a bonus for not much more in price.
 

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Well, the whole reason I've always been a console gamer is because I've never had a PC that was capable of running the games. Now that I have a job and make my own money, I can finally build a nice high power machine and play some games on it.

And you be correct, X800 in the current desktop, and an nvidia Quadro Go 1400 in the laptop (the one that's in the shop again for overheating and frying itself. :woot:), so nothing against ATI.

I went with a mobo that has SLi because I figure I'll probably start doing more gaming on the computer, and would want to have something that I could upgrade if I decide to at that point. I like to have the option, basically. I'd like to start playing some games on teh PC with some of my friends.

I really like that ATI card you linked, :D 256-bit is ftw, no doubt. Just find me a mobo that can do crossfire...just in case :p I'll save up a bit and buy around Januaryish. I'll just go play Mass Effect again to cure the itch for something new :lol: And I'll trust you guru's with the HDD. I was never really in the hardware loop anyway, but now I'm so lost :runaway:
 

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The problem with SLI is this - when and if you do want to put another card in there, it has to be the same GPU. SLI doesn't double your performance, so from a cost scenario, using SLI as an option to 'upgrade' your video card down the line likely won't be very effective. You'll likely be able to upgrade to a new card in your price bracket down the line and get better performance than SLI with your existing GPU. Plus, you'll use less power, and make less heat.
 

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So you're saying that it's better to just put whatever new cards come along in then. :hmm:

Would it alter anything if I told you that I use Ubuntu as my primary OS? I'll have a partition for Windows for games and random stuff that linux just doesn't work well with, but for day to day stuffs, Ubuntu is what I'll be using.

Decisions, decisions. Good thing I got a month to think about what to do :D
 

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nVidia drivers tend to be a bit better in Linux as compared to ATI. The X800 ran like shit on Ubuntu when I had it at work, so I swapped with with a 7600GT and it's fine. I hardly ever use that machine for anything 3D though, so YMMV. I needed something with really good 2D acceleration (which almost all cards out there does) and nVidia's native driver is the only one that really shines. The Xorg drivers for older cards are great, like the Matrox series (crisp text too) but I can't get em on PCI-Express :(
 

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So you're saying that it's better to just put whatever new cards come along in then. :hmm:
Pretty much, that's what I've been doing and it's damn cost friendly. Hell, I just got an 8800GT to replace the X1900, and after selling off the X1900, I theoretically doubled my computer's performance for about $4. It's more cost effective to do SLi or Crossfire with the high-end video cards because their performance is so high that you wouldn't really feel the need to change until at least 2 years or so. Hell, Anus has two 7800GTXs that can still put out great results even though they're two generations behind.

Would it alter anything if I told you that I use Ubuntu as my primary OS? I'll have a partition for Windows for games and random stuff that linux just doesn't work well with, but for day to day stuffs, Ubuntu is what I'll be using.
Not really, many of the Linux distributions have done well providing proprietary drivers and updates for even the most recent hardware. It'll be fine.

nVidia drivers tend to be a bit better in Linux as compared to ATI. The X800 ran like shit on Ubuntu when I had it at work, so I swapped with with a 7600GT and it's fine. I hardly ever use that machine for anything 3D though, so YMMV. I needed something with really good 2D acceleration (which almost all cards out there does) and nVidia's native driver is the only one that really shines. The Xorg drivers for older cards are great, like the Matrox series (crisp text too) but I can't get em on PCI-Express :(
ATi recently made its Linux 2D API open-source, and the recent 8.41+ drivers have made great strides in performance. They are doing away with fglrx as well, and replacing it with AIGLX.
 

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:cool:

I haven't had any problems really with the ATI card in the desky with this ubuntu distro, and it does fine enough for porn/aim/interwebs. :)
 

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:cool:

I haven't had any problems really with the ATI card in the desky with this ubuntu distro, and it does fine enough for porn/aim/interwebs. :)
Indeed.

So is your sister still available? :ndance:
 
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