How far from Northern VA are you located - where do you live?
Inverted Rear Seat Sub Instalation?
So its time to get some subs in the Spyder and I Wondering if this is the best Placement for 1 or 2 Subs. I was looking at the Kicker L5s and wasn't sure on an amp yet, but I'm Completely open to suggestions for both. I Have a Spyder, so there is no hatch, and there is restricted area in the trunk. Being a convertible, I wanted the subs on the inside of the car for better sound. Maybe placing some smaller subs in place of the 6x9s in the back seat side panels would work? Any suggestions on installation place on the interior (either for the L5s or any other subs)? Would the 2 inverted subs be able to use the seat as a sealed box? And would it even be needed to invert the sub? This is very similar to the DESIRED look -
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This is the first place I would want one, and the second one maybe on the bottom of the seat directly below the first sub.
Thanks for all the Suggestions
This is the first place I would want one, and the second one maybe on the bottom of the seat directly below the first sub.
Thanks for all the Suggestions
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I dont think Im more than like 4 hrs from Northern Va, I live in NC. So what was the idea that you had that would require me getting to Va?
I should have known you were the man and the shop for a job or idea at least for something like this, what kinda idea do you have though? Fiberglass the rear side panels on the spyder to house subs? or some kind of trunk mold? or were you lookin into the seats? thanks man
No, use the trunk. It'll sound better in the trunk anyway. The low notes produced by a sub do not need to originate in the cabin. They will travel through the floor/chassis, etc just fine. I would suggest using as much sound deadener as possible though. Having a stiffer chassis will help bring the bass into the cabin and make it feel/sound more solid.So its time to get some subs in the Spyder and I Wondering if this is the best Placement for 1 or 2 Subs.
I have had 2 10s, then 2 12s, now 1 15" in my Spyder trunk. There is plenty of room to work with if you can handle using the rear seat to store your goods (backpack, laptop, books, etc). Look into "corner boxes". There are two guys n this site would are building their own right now and they have been showing progress photos and basically wrote up "How Tos". Very good stuff :yesway:I Have a Spyder, so there is no hatch, and there is restricted area in the trunk.
I think it will sound worse if they fire into the cabin. Subs like walls so they can bounce the soundwaves around. Obviously the roof on the Spyder would not offer any kind of reinforcement for the bass.Being a convertible, I wanted the subs on the inside of the car for better sound.
That would take some fabbing/custom work but could be pretty cool. Depending on how much bass you need/want then that may work for you. I can see a pair of 6.5" woofers or MAYBE an 8" sub fitting in that location. It is somewhat deep but you may still have to "build out" the rear paneling to give the sub enough depth.Maybe placing some smaller subs in place of the 6x9s in the back seat side panels would work?
No. You would need a "free air" design sub. That rear "cubby" area is not sealed at all.Would the 2 inverted subs be able to use the seat as a sealed box?
IMO, Not enough depth for that on a 3G Spyder. Not without cutting into the rear "firewall" anyway. Definately not enough room to have 2 stacked on top of each other. The top one would stick so far through the rear firewall that the convertible top would hit it on the way down and block it meaning no more drop top.This is the first place I would want one, and the second one maybe on the bottom of the seat directly below the first sub.
Thanks for all the Suggestions
Wow thanks man, that was enlightening, and I could see it took time, thanks for not letting me screw up the int of my car, i think what your saying with those 6.5/8s in the side panels would be a good route for now, and maybe make some fiberglass panels instead with a paintmatch and maybe some componet tweeter or something towards the top, or maybe just finding a slimfit 8 for each side, what do you think NC[Spyder]GT or Hijacker?
I think that idea would be unique and may fit your needs. I wanted to do that myself but needed more bass than that would allow for. I like LOUD bass at times so a large sub/box was a requirement fo me 
The idea of adding tweeters to that back panel sounds good. Maye even a 3.5" or 4" mid between the woofer and the tweeter? Just don't forget to baffle/seal the woofer's back so the bass doesn't end up being muddy sounding. Sounds like it would be quite a project but if done right I could see it being a winner :yesway: I actually picked up a spare set of rear panels so I could try something similar (at some point)
FWIW, I have seen several members state that the rear mid/high peakers are not even ideal. They would fade all the way to the front or simply remove the rear speakers all together.
The idea of adding tweeters to that back panel sounds good. Maye even a 3.5" or 4" mid between the woofer and the tweeter? Just don't forget to baffle/seal the woofer's back so the bass doesn't end up being muddy sounding. Sounds like it would be quite a project but if done right I could see it being a winner :yesway: I actually picked up a spare set of rear panels so I could try something similar (at some point)
FWIW, I have seen several members state that the rear mid/high peakers are not even ideal. They would fade all the way to the front or simply remove the rear speakers all together.
Well, I do believe I have found my summer project, thats for sure, and what sort of 8 or 6.5 sub do you suggest? I know of a newer company called Elemental Designs that has a 6.5 that takes less than 4in mount depth. Do you have an Idea on a set up with those sizes?
If i'm not mistaken Alipne makes a very good slim sub I believe. If your going to go and follow through w. this project I would go w. a good name brand sub to finish it off perfectly.Well, I do believe I have found my summer project, thats for sure, and what sort of 8 or 6.5 sub do you suggest? I know of a newer company called Elemental Designs that has a 6.5 that takes less than 4in mount depth. Do you have an Idea on a set up with those sizes?
ya it was one of those brands that i heard of throught a friend and i didnt know if anyone else had heard of it, maybe using something thats an 8 would be best with the tweeters and maybe 3.5 or 4s as well, but im almost sure that someone else made some nice 8 inchers, time for some research on which subs and speakers to choose now as well as an amp, im thinkin this proj can turn out good if i do it right with the fiberglass//paint//mounting
Alright guys I need some help know with the selection of subs/amp(s), I want to stick with the 8inch subs, one on each side, and there are more larger companies that makes them - Rockford Forsgate, JBL, Polk Audio, JL, and Kicker Comp, any suggestions guys/gals?
Go listen to the different brands and install what sounds best to you. I still suggest going with a "free-air" type woofer if you use an 8"er. There is no "perfect" sub or brand that sounds better than all the rest regardless of install type/location.
:agreed: When it come to sub's I would stick to a name brand for quality assurance, but when it come to sound, it's all a matter of taste. I definitly agree w. NC when it comes to going w. a free-aire type sub. Cu. In. size requiernments should play a part in your decision because the limited space you are putting the sub in. I'm not sure what a common size requirnment is for an 8" sub. For the 12" I used it needed 1.5-2 Cu. Ft. per manufacturer specs.
I'm only goinging w. one sub and the corner, passenger side of the hatch worked perfect for that size requierment. I'm sure you don't want to be using at minimum 3 cu. ft. inside the car for just the subs. Than again, like I said I don't know what the specs are for 8 or 10 inchers, never had one. The back the the spyder isn't too roomy if i remember correctly.
I'm only goinging w. one sub and the corner, passenger side of the hatch worked perfect for that size requierment. I'm sure you don't want to be using at minimum 3 cu. ft. inside the car for just the subs. Than again, like I said I don't know what the specs are for 8 or 10 inchers, never had one. The back the the spyder isn't too roomy if i remember correctly.
Ya I'm looking at the spacing and I know I can sink in an 8" or smaller, but was also looking at alternative mounting and looked at inverting again and found out I can comfortably fit a 10" in there, I have a friend who has an AudioBahn as a secondary sub to his rf punches, and even though its a cheaper brand it still sounds good for what Im looking into doing, any objections or known info on this suggestion?
Actually my sub's are Audiobahn 12" and I'm actually very happy w. them. It's definitly a good quality sub and sounds pretty nice. I've had them for 2 years almost and they are still very reliable! I know alot of people around here may not recommend them because they are not a JBL or Alpine, but I'd recommend it.
Ya I was lookin at those and wasnt sure on how well it would work with the 'free air' situation, will they work? Or should I go with this set of kickers or something like that I that are 'free air' ?
Wait! By "inverting" do you mean you want the magnet of the speaker facing the cabin and the cone facing the trunk? That could definately be done. Ideally you would still use a "free air" design (usually means less bass but then again it requires FAR less room). You wouldn't have to cut into the rear firewall but you would need to find a way to make the seat backing rigid and you may want to seal it somehow on the ends (left/right sides). Personally I think it would be far more trouble than it would be worth unless this was purely for looks and you were entering a car show.
For trunk space savings AND powerful bass I would suggest a corner box. Either all wood or fiberglass. You can get atleast 1.2 cuft of space inside a passengerside corner box. I had a 10" JL Audio sub in an all MDF corner box and it thumped. Swapped out to a 12" JL Audio and it was even better. Added a 2nd one to the driver side and I was all set. Then everything in my trunk got jacked by a ghetto ass neighbor :mecry: LOL Now I'm stuck with a 10y/o 15" sub. Can't wait to finish my engine work then I'll focus on the stereo again.
Also, keep in mind that by having the sub magnet exposed that any and all metal that gets near it will be attracted to and stuck to the speaker. Usually not a big deal but it could result in speaker damage if something metal got near it (wire scraps, metal shavings, etc). Also, I doubt there is a way to make the wiring look any good....
For trunk space savings AND powerful bass I would suggest a corner box. Either all wood or fiberglass. You can get atleast 1.2 cuft of space inside a passengerside corner box. I had a 10" JL Audio sub in an all MDF corner box and it thumped. Swapped out to a 12" JL Audio and it was even better. Added a 2nd one to the driver side and I was all set. Then everything in my trunk got jacked by a ghetto ass neighbor :mecry: LOL Now I'm stuck with a 10y/o 15" sub. Can't wait to finish my engine work then I'll focus on the stereo again.
Also, keep in mind that by having the sub magnet exposed that any and all metal that gets near it will be attracted to and stuck to the speaker. Usually not a big deal but it could result in speaker damage if something metal got near it (wire scraps, metal shavings, etc). Also, I doubt there is a way to make the wiring look any good....
I didn't pick up on the either. If he wants the magnet facing out it could definitly be done, but why? And there's not many ways I could see it looking 100% clean. Better making a corner box IMO.
Ya I know that the magnet out would be risky and such, but I was just saying that I would be able to use a LARGER sub with more bass in that situation, but I'm still looking to do it with the magnet towards the exterior and not exposed, so I think I'm going to be using a nice 8" and sinking it in with no worries or 10" and do some extra fitting, I definately agree that the magnet out wouldnt be as clean, and it was just another idea, so no worries
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