I'd certainly be interested in the results
My neighbor BOUGHT a hydrogen kit!
Well pretty much my neighbor -- two seconds away. Anyway, he purchased a complete kit for his car -- which is a Hyundai Accent. We are going to install it sometime over the upcoming week. If the installation is 100% successful and he saves (enough) gas(oline) mileage, I will no doubt do the same to my 2003 Eclipse GT.
In addition to the to the components, there were also two gauges -- one for amps and one for water level(?); and a "flame extinguisher" to prevent any flames from reaching the gas (electrolysis) chamber. We tested it today. It was 100% competent in water electrolysis. We placed a match right at the gas outlet, and it shot the match out of his hand.
As of right now, he claims that his car gets ~26MPG. The person(s) who made the kit say that the hydrogen is going to have to be fed through the air intake, which is accomplished by cutting a hole in the tube.
Is anyone interested in this project? Do you all want me to make a log of this project? Please feel free to speak up! :twothumb::twothumb:
In addition to the to the components, there were also two gauges -- one for amps and one for water level(?); and a "flame extinguisher" to prevent any flames from reaching the gas (electrolysis) chamber. We tested it today. It was 100% competent in water electrolysis. We placed a match right at the gas outlet, and it shot the match out of his hand.
As of right now, he claims that his car gets ~26MPG. The person(s) who made the kit say that the hydrogen is going to have to be fed through the air intake, which is accomplished by cutting a hole in the tube.
Is anyone interested in this project? Do you all want me to make a log of this project? Please feel free to speak up! :twothumb::twothumb:
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There's a new company making the same thing for my Dodge Truck, so I'd def be interested in a log of your findings.
I had a guy come into the shop i work at and showed it to us. Im going to do it within the next 6 months
yes deff log it.. me and a buddy i have 00 eclipse gt and he has 02 jetta 1.8l turbo and we were thinkin bout putin one on our cars but wanted someone else to try it first even if u see a 10 mpg increase its worth buying u know i get 23 or 22 mpg on my eclipse!
Alright...will certainly do so. I had the same problem as most of you all because I didn't want to get it for $250 only to find something terribly wrong with it. I will try to take pictures at various stages -- right now the only camera I have doesn't always work right, but will try my best. Just so you all know, I work 8 hour shifts at McDonalds, and he goes to a community college, and works after he gets out, so our schedules might be a little difficult to work around, so be patient. I do wanna get this worked on as soon as we can.
A couple of things that we're going to have to figure out is how to install the gauges, and all of the wiring. I believe that will be the most difficult part. Also, keep in mind that this is not to make the car run completely off of hydrogen, but at least more than 10%. As of right now I have no clue as to whether it'll run efficienly at 5% or 50%. The kit he purchased was from truecarpentry.org. I am always skeptical of people building things and trying to market them online, but it appears as though these people have provided more than enough material to get it going. My friend said that additional cathodes are available at that site to increase hydrogen production. I'm generally a tough person to convince when 250+ dollars are on the line, so I hope this blows my skepticism to pieces.
A couple of things that we're going to have to figure out is how to install the gauges, and all of the wiring. I believe that will be the most difficult part. Also, keep in mind that this is not to make the car run completely off of hydrogen, but at least more than 10%. As of right now I have no clue as to whether it'll run efficienly at 5% or 50%. The kit he purchased was from truecarpentry.org. I am always skeptical of people building things and trying to market them online, but it appears as though these people have provided more than enough material to get it going. My friend said that additional cathodes are available at that site to increase hydrogen production. I'm generally a tough person to convince when 250+ dollars are on the line, so I hope this blows my skepticism to pieces.
Alright... Just got back from his house. Unfortunately it appears as though it is going to take a solid 6+ hours to install; a big chunk of that will be wading through the instructions and finding a way to put it in his engine compartment. It is a cylinder that is 4x12". I took a look around my engine and it appeared even tighter in space!
However, I have to go into work now
. Back to the old restaurant where I will assist in producing a sandwich which will be the trigger for someone's last heart attack!
However, I have to go into work now
. Back to the old restaurant where I will assist in producing a sandwich which will be the trigger for someone's last heart attack!i have seen these kits many places and its not a new idea. There are alot of companies marketing the same devices but i have yet to see one in operation. Let me know, I will probly end up with one.
Never even heard of it, and I thought I was reasonably "up" on these kinds of things. Link?
wow, people will believe and buy anything in this day and age of higher gas prices. i rank this up there with turbonators, the fuel tornado, and those fuel magnets. also i guess no one saw the mythbusters episode where they debunked this. whateve, it's your waste of money and gave me something to laugh at
I must have missed that mythbusters.. Linky?
But, I agree. Something as simple as a $250 investment CERTAINLY would have been made by the auto manufacturers by now if it produced any decent gain in economy.
But, I agree. Something as simple as a $250 investment CERTAINLY would have been made by the auto manufacturers by now if it produced any decent gain in economy.
Cutting a hole in the air intake for the hydrogen to enter :lol:
I accept paypal or check if you want to waste your money.
I saw the mythbusters...produced barely any hydrogen at all. Was a waste.
I accept paypal or check if you want to waste your money.
I saw the mythbusters...produced barely any hydrogen at all. Was a waste.
that was the same episode they tested out those turbonators and the magnetic fuel line things. was funny when they decided to shoot straight hydrogen into the intake. it still did nothing for the car except make a nice flameI must have missed that mythbusters.. Linky?
But, I agree. Something as simple as a $250 investment CERTAINLY would have been made by the auto manufacturers by now if it produced any decent gain in economy.
:agreed: I saw the mythbusters as well. It is an utter an complete waste of money. Please don't throw away your hard earned Mc Donalds cash on this man, you'll regret it.Cutting a hole in the air intake for the hydrogen to enter :lol:
I accept paypal or check if you want to waste your money.
I saw the mythbusters...produced barely any hydrogen at all. Was a waste.
EDIT: It's mythbusters episode #53 if anyone wants to look it up. I haven't found any video yet, but if you google it you can read episode descriptions.
I don't get how anyone thought that messing with the computer controlled ratio of fuel and air with something that is neither would actually benefit them :dunno:
(yes I know that hydrogen is a "fuel", but not in this engine).
(yes I know that hydrogen is a "fuel", but not in this engine).
A hydrogen fuel cell is not a myth. Main concern of this technology is hydrogen transportation. Dont compare it to a turbonator.
this kit does not produce enough hydrogen to run a vehicle. and injecting what it does produce into the air intake will seriously mess with a computer controlled car.
it would be easy to set up on something carbed, the mythbusters had the large flame out on the top side of the carb because, essentially, they were running too lean and it top fired.
the best thing to do if wanting to run hydrogen would be to swap out the entire cars fuel system for a hydrogen tank, also your going to need a flashable ECU to get it running right.
is it possible, VERY. is this kit going to do it, NOPE.
NOTE: most fuel cell cars convert to electricity to power electric motors, there has been ONE fuel cell based car in testing that actually burned the hydrogen, i think it was volvo that was working on it
it would be easy to set up on something carbed, the mythbusters had the large flame out on the top side of the carb because, essentially, they were running too lean and it top fired.
the best thing to do if wanting to run hydrogen would be to swap out the entire cars fuel system for a hydrogen tank, also your going to need a flashable ECU to get it running right.
is it possible, VERY. is this kit going to do it, NOPE.
NOTE: most fuel cell cars convert to electricity to power electric motors, there has been ONE fuel cell based car in testing that actually burned the hydrogen, i think it was volvo that was working on it
exactly. one works and the other one doesn'tA hydrogen fuel-cell engine is much different than the setup they're talking about.
I don't understand why anyone thinks adding more fuel to your mixture is going to improve mileage? You aren't adding more of the other half of the equation, oxygen. The car is tuned to run at stoich 14.7:1 AFR when at about any condition other than WOT. If you were to add hydrogen to the mixture, you'll also need to add more oxygen at the same stoichiometric ratio for H2 (which is quite a bit different than for gasoline) to actually make more power. It's the same as running a wet nitrous shot, and adding the fuel without the nitrous. More fuel is useless without more air. Also I'd be concerned about the combustion properties of hydrogen in a gasoline tuned engine, as you may get into detonation issues and have the H2 igniting to early in the process since the LEL for H2 is a lower level than that of gasoline.
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