I know that the Ripp BB can not be programmed (except through Ripp) and eManage can. I know Ripp is supposedly coming out with the Brat for better control of the ECU. So what is the advantages/disadvantages/benefits of the BB and/or Brat over eManage? That is, say if you had a Tearstone tuned eManage for the SDS with suck thru.
I've had my Tearstone kit on and running since January '06 with the eManage with the baseline tune, and so far no problems. Only error code I ever get is P1400 (Manifold Differential Pressure Sensor Circuit Malfunction).
Out of curiosity, would the BRAT box work with applications other than Ripp's?
I'm not sure where this perception of "fighting with the ECU" comes from, but currently we are not having any issues with using the e-manage. The only fight (if any) with the ECU is the desire for the ECU to tune itself back to 14.7:1 in closed loop operations then carrying those long term fuel trims over to wide open throttle (open loop). But this is all explained in detail in the piggy back tuning thread in the sticky on this forum. Others who have converted over to the e-manage with their various applications seem to be doing fine as well. I don't see where the argument is here. The only thing we can do better is to replace or reprogram the ECM itself. Those options are available through a Haltech or AEM EMS and soon Myne's Performance software to retune our ECUs.
I know that the Ripp BB can not be programmed (except through Ripp) and eManage can. I know Ripp is supposedly coming out with the Brat for better control of the ECU. So what is the advantages/disadvantages/benefits of the BB and/or Brat over eManage? That is, say if you had a Tearstone tuned eManage for the SDS with suck thru.
No what happens is you get a bunch of members that agree that emanage is better, then you get a another bunch that think RIPP is better, then its another waste of time thread arguing and debating which is better, and in the end most everyone concludes that standalone is best choice.
Emanage works, RIPP Box works. (timing + fuel control)
Emanage lets you retune. RIPP lets you retune (requires send back to RIPP)
Emanage has a baseline tune via Tearstone that you can not access; RIPP box has a baseline tune via RIPP that you can not access
Emanage can be wiped out clean for custom use; RIPP box can not be wiped out
Emanage base tune will fall short against ECU if fuel trims are negative; RIPP box tune will far short against ECU if fuel trims are negative
Emanage works, RIPP Box works. (timing + fuel control)
Emanage lets you retune. RIPP lets you retune (requires send back to RIPP)
Emanage has a baseline tune via Tearstone that you can not access; RIPP box has a baseline tune via RIPP that you can not access
Emanage can be wiped out clean for custom use; RIPP box can not be wiped out
Emanage base tune will fall short against ECU if fuel trims are negative; RIPP box tune will far short against ECU if fuel trims are negative
Emanage blue can adjust injector pulse widths by adding more voltage.
Emanage Ultimate can totally control each individual injector.
Emanage Ultimate can eliminate your MAS and replace it with a MAP.
Emanage works, RIPP Box works. (timing + fuel control)
Emanage lets you retune. RIPP lets you retune (requires send back to RIPP)
Emanage has a baseline tune via Tearstone that you can not access; RIPP box has a baseline tune via RIPP that you can not access
Emanage can be wiped out clean for custom use; RIPP box can not be wiped out
Emanage base tune will fall short against ECU if fuel trims are negative; RIPP box tune will far short against ECU if fuel trims are negative
Emanage blue can adjust injector pulse widths by adding more voltage.
Emanage Ultimate can totally control each individual injector.
Emanage Ultimate can eliminate your MAS and replace it with a MAP.
Not exactly. The ECU supplies a ground to the injector signal lines. Emanage simply keeps the injector signal line grounded for a longer duration, thus increasing duty cycle, and thereby adding more fuel. :twothumb:
Tearstone said:
Emanage Ultimate can totally control each individual injector.
Emanage Ultimate can eliminate your MAS and replace it with a MAP.
Thats the best way to go if you plan to lay down some HP.
I'll have to drive up when your ready to dyno that MONSTER.
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