BTW, THERES NO NOISE AT ALL COMING FROM THE TRANSMISSION. It is dead silent, as if nothings wrong with the car also when I start driving it easy, like a manual with a bad clutch and easy the gas the car drives normally.
Transmission Most Likely Dead, Need Help
Well Im on my way driving and all of a sudden my car starts slipping. I think no big deal, just the flaring thats common with all 3Gs. But then as I get to a light the car acts like its in neutral as I try to take off. Eventually when I get to 2.5K RPM the car catches, jerks, catches again and drives then the N starts flashing and I park my car on the side. I start it up in a parking lot, I was next to CVS and I figured Im PRETTY sure the end clutch is done for as when I put the car in ANY gear, reverse or forward, the car starts rolling unless I give it a little gas for it to finally catch. If someone thinks its something besides the end clutch, let me know.
Cliff Notes: Driving, car slips, catches, slipes again and catches, N light comes on, my Automatic now feels like a Manual with a bad clutch.
So how hard is it to replace the end clutch? Should I just purchase a new end clutch and where can I get it from or should I purchase a used transmission?
Cliff Notes: Driving, car slips, catches, slipes again and catches, N light comes on, my Automatic now feels like a Manual with a bad clutch.
So how hard is it to replace the end clutch? Should I just purchase a new end clutch and where can I get it from or should I purchase a used transmission?
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Uncle came over with his computer, codes came up for Shift Solenoid C and D. Some guy said aroudn $300-400 in work would be necessary and he'd give a 12,000 mile/12 month warranty. Anyone think thats a good deal or should I tackle it myself?
if the fluid is cloudy and black or smells burnt i'd suggest you just get the whole trans rebuilt and flush the cooler lines/trans cooler.
once it starts to slip, stop. get it towed. slipping the clutches is pretty bad on the trans, even if its OK for a while after the solenoids get replaced i doubt it'll last long.
perfect example, a delievery truck was driven to the shop after popping a trans line. he drove all but about 1 quart of fluid out of the trans. the owner said to just repair the line, fill it up, and see how it does. we did just that and it drove fine.
2 weeks later it came back without any 3rd gear and a badly slipping 2nd gear. the fresh trans fluid was now BLACK and burned.
once it starts to slip, stop. get it towed. slipping the clutches is pretty bad on the trans, even if its OK for a while after the solenoids get replaced i doubt it'll last long.
perfect example, a delievery truck was driven to the shop after popping a trans line. he drove all but about 1 quart of fluid out of the trans. the owner said to just repair the line, fill it up, and see how it does. we did just that and it drove fine.
2 weeks later it came back without any 3rd gear and a badly slipping 2nd gear. the fresh trans fluid was now BLACK and burned.
DO NOT i repeat DO NOT get a used transmission. You may end up getting something that is worse than what you had. My family owns a very reputable transmission shop in the Akron area and they won't even put a used tranny in. Get it rebuilt with a warranty.
Well as of now the transmission fluid is rich red, looks brand new and no burnt smell or anything. The car right now is just not moving in any gear at all now, even in drive it could be rolled back. Only gear working is the parking gear. My uncle who is a experience mechanic said that a valve is stuck so theres no pressure and the clutch isn't engaging. If its just the valve Ive been quoted 3-400. If its the clutches then Im afraid Im going to get raped but I also don't want a transmission shop lying to me and telling me i have to replace something that I really don't need to.if the fluid is cloudy and black or smells burnt i'd suggest you just get the whole trans rebuilt and flush the cooler lines/trans cooler.
once it starts to slip, stop. get it towed. slipping the clutches is pretty bad on the trans, even if its OK for a while after the solenoids get replaced i doubt it'll last long.
perfect example, a delievery truck was driven to the shop after popping a trans line. he drove all but about 1 quart of fluid out of the trans. the owner said to just repair the line, fill it up, and see how it does. we did just that and it drove fine.
2 weeks later it came back without any 3rd gear and a badly slipping 2nd gear. the fresh trans fluid was now BLACK and burned.
well clean fluid is a good sign, go ahead and replace those solenoids and see how it goes. hopefully you didnt do any real damage and its all good 
Yea I talked to an old transmission guy, he told me aslong as your fluid is red and theres no burning smell its not your clutch. He told me it sounds like I have a pressure problem which I verified when hooking up with the computer and found out Solenoid C and D were bad. I just hope the car is going to need a lot of work, pharm school is expensive :happysad:well clean fluid is a good sign, go ahead and replace those solenoids and see how it goes. hopefully you didnt do any real damage and its all good
Well best of luck to yah, I wish I could say that I had the same problem, although it was slightly different. It would slip as you say, but eventually it would go away, I had the Tranny flushed at the dealer after about a week doing this, and that cleared the problem up.
When did you get unbanned?
As of now, my dads boss buys and sells cars and knows some place called D & R that gets used transmissions and ships it out to a shop to install it. They give a warranty with it and he told me it shouldn't be more then 700 so I might as well just do that instead of rebuilding my transmission.
As of now, my dads boss buys and sells cars and knows some place called D & R that gets used transmissions and ships it out to a shop to install it. They give a warranty with it and he told me it shouldn't be more then 700 so I might as well just do that instead of rebuilding my transmission.
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Well, just a word of caution, is that with warranty'd transmissions, it's not the warranty that could end up hurting you in the end, but the installations and the install times and downtime of your car having issues. I'm sure that a used transmission probably wouldn't cause you too many problems and being a newer car (somewhat) i'm sure anything with lower miles would be better than what you have, but still be very cautious.
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Well, just a word of caution, is that with warranty'd transmissions, it's not the warranty that could end up hurting you in the end, but the installations and the install times and downtime of your car having issues. I'm sure that a used transmission probably wouldn't cause you too many problems and being a newer car (somewhat) i'm sure anything with lower miles would be better than what you have, but still be very cautious.
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Just got a call back, for a shop to find me a used transmission and install it its going to be $1,300, might as well do a manual swap for that much. Now Im calling around to see how much it would cost to just do a rebuild. Anyone experience this problem before with the solenoids?
I've been searching around for some information and this and I can't seem to find anything... This may be something you should ask to Tearstone/Pharm..
Thing is, with those codes it could be the wiring of the solenoids, the solenoids themselves, the TCU, or worst case it could be something internal but I dont think it is since the tranny fluid is still a rich red and it doesn't smell like its burning. Im just completely ticked off as I searched and this problem seems to be somewhat common with our transmissions. One guy who had my exact symptoms said he replaced the torque converter and everything seemed fine but who knows.
same prob.
yeah i have the same prob. i traded for a 98 gs spyder 2.4L and did a test drive everthing was fine the next day drove it to work on the way back home (4mi drive back) it went in to limp mode. it's been a month now and im just now getting narrowed down to either the shift solenoid or tourqe converter and by the looks of it the trans fluid had not been changes since the cars first owner had alittle pink color but looked mostly burt but did't smell car as 160k on it and everthing else is fine. I've changed oil full synthetic atf and trans. full syn. atf
i can unplug the ecu for 10sec. and the car will go in to gear for about 5sec. and then back to limp mode but no check engine light so now i can even check the codes now that i have my own scanner. so if anyone has fixed this prob. please help the newbe!!
yeah i have the same prob. i traded for a 98 gs spyder 2.4L and did a test drive everthing was fine the next day drove it to work on the way back home (4mi drive back) it went in to limp mode. it's been a month now and im just now getting narrowed down to either the shift solenoid or tourqe converter and by the looks of it the trans fluid had not been changes since the cars first owner had alittle pink color but looked mostly burt but did't smell car as 160k on it and everthing else is fine. I've changed oil full synthetic atf and trans. full syn. atf
i can unplug the ecu for 10sec. and the car will go in to gear for about 5sec. and then back to limp mode but no check engine light so now i can even check the codes now that i have my own scanner. so if anyone has fixed this prob. please help the newbe!!
Oh yeah, solenoid malfunction C and D... hit me 2 months ago along with a quiet popping sound, and my car couldn't move anymore. How is your fluid level? I give you some links I read / discussions about my problem. I ended up opting for a 5sp swap, once it's done in a couple days I might be able to examine the auto for what exactly failed, but I do have a suspect.
http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109494
http://www.galantforums.com/joomla/forum/index.php?t=5422&rb_v=viewtopic
This one's a really good one:http://www.transmissiondigest.com/tech/TD200508/200508ShiftPointers/200508ShiftPointers.htm
http://www.thegalantcenter.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19259&highlight=gear+nd+pump+transmission
http://www.thegalantcenter.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28100&highlight=gear+nd+pump+transmission
http://www.thegalantcenter.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22242
This might or might not be the situation in your case. Just as you found, there's really no way of knowing for sure unless you have it checked out. Otherwise you could replace the solenoids and pray that that was all.
http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109494
http://www.galantforums.com/joomla/forum/index.php?t=5422&rb_v=viewtopic
This one's a really good one:http://www.transmissiondigest.com/tech/TD200508/200508ShiftPointers/200508ShiftPointers.htm
http://www.thegalantcenter.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19259&highlight=gear+nd+pump+transmission
http://www.thegalantcenter.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28100&highlight=gear+nd+pump+transmission
http://www.thegalantcenter.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22242
This might or might not be the situation in your case. Just as you found, there's really no way of knowing for sure unless you have it checked out. Otherwise you could replace the solenoids and pray that that was all.
thanks for the sites im going to try and get my ses light on or just take out the solenoids and see if there loose or burnt something
if anyone knows were i can those for agood price hit me back
if anyone knows were i can those for agood price hit me back
oh and the fluid now is new but befor i changed it it was brown with a little pink but no burnt smell even after letting it warm up and then checking it
Now Im pretty sure that my pump gear breaking is what caused everything as my fluid level is still good. Thing I hate about transmission shops is one shop tells you one thing and another tells you something else. The car at the moment is getting towed in to a local transmission shop that is well known so I guess we'll see how much their going to anal rape me. Fucking Mitsubishi, there should be a recal on this as so many cars have gone out the same way and have had the same syptoms.
personally i think if you're going to keep the car you should get your transmission rebuilt. ask around and try to find someone who does rebuilts with a good warranty. another option would be a jasper rebuilt unit, for which you can buy a nice warranty.
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