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#501 ·
GCTurbo said:
I say he's an asshole because he's been running his mouth about me for a long time now reguarding instances that he has no first hand knowledge of.

Greg is no angel either. He has his own skeletons in his closet, they just don't participate on these forums. He may not have had problems on the same scale as I have but he hasnt attempted anything on any type of large scale at all.
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Sure Greg can be brash, but I think he has been very forthright about his criminal past on these forums. He also is not slow to admit blame, as he pointed out in the above post. I can't agree with your assessment.

GCT said:
I'm probably nuts for saying this but I'm still willing to try to work it out with him.
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America is about second chances. I suggest you follow your own advice and be "nuts".
 
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#502 ·
Greg,

I enjoy reading your posts, they are always so "colorful". 20 kit's in 5 years? Are you high? I've built more one off custom setups than that in the last 5 years and at least twice that many kit's.

I guess by "large scale" I mean that I've actually tried to build a facility rather than just putting pieces of plywood down on my gravel driveway to work on customers cars. It's kind of hard to fail when your overhead consists of replenishing sheets of plywood. The volume of work you could do might be a problem though.

I've not denied that Gulf Coast Turbo has closed down at a time where a couple people are losing out.

My argument has been focused on the fact that I am not the only one involved and certainly not the only one to blame. Yet I am the only one being attacked here.

I've also said numerous times that I am trying to work it out. Yes, my plan for working it out involved selling more kit's to Russ. NO, it did not require any trust to be put into me or any money to be given to me up front. I have the capability to supply a couple kit's a week right now. I know Russ' customers are constantly inquiring about Turbo kit's so it only seemed logical that it could be worked out that way and everyone would come out ahead.

If the kit's moved decently, which I thought they would because the price would have been quite a bit lower, than I could have potentially had Russ paid off by the end of the year.

If Russ does not want to work with me on that than I will have to figure something else out. Any other options are certainly more complicated and will take some time to be implemented.
 
#503 ·
GCTurbo said:
I've also said numerous times that I am trying to work it out. Yes, my plan for working it out involved selling more kit's to Russ. NO, it did not require any trust to be put into me or any money to be given to me up front. I have the capability to supply a couple kit's a week right now. I know Russ' customers are constantly inquiring about Turbo kit's so it only seemed logical that it could be worked out that way and everyone would come out ahead.
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Great! I still have one customer who has paid for their kit, in turn which we have paid you for over 9 months ago and they still have not received it. Based on your comment you should be able to drop ship that kit to them today, correct?
 
#504 ·
GCTurbo said:
Greg,

I enjoy reading your posts, they are always so "colorful". 20 kit's in 5 years? Are you high? I've built more one off custom setups than that in the last 5 years and at least twice that many kit's.

I guess by "large scale" I mean that I've actually tried to build a facility rather than just putting pieces of plywood down on my gravel driveway to work on customers cars. It's kind of hard to fail when your overhead consists of replenishing sheets of plywood. The volume of work you could do might be a problem though.

I've not denied that Gulf Coast Turbo has closed down at a time where a couple people are losing out.

My argument has been focused on the fact that I am not the only one involved and certainly not the only one to blame. Yet I am the only one being attacked here.

I've also said numerous times that I am trying to work it out. Yes, my plan for working it out involved selling more kit's to Russ. NO, it did not require any trust to be put into me or any money to be given to me up front. I have the capability to supply a couple kit's a week right now. I know Russ' customers are constantly inquiring about Turbo kit's so it only seemed logical that it could be worked out that way and everyone would come out ahead.

If the kit's moved decently, which I thought they would because the price would have been quite a bit lower, than I could have potentially had Russ paid off by the end of the year.

If Russ does not want to work with me on that than I will have to figure something else out. Any other options are certainly more complicated and will take some time to be implemented.
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If you and Russ worked out a 'trust but verify' relationship, I'd be all for it. Needless to say since you're currently the 3g "Kim Jong Il", you'd have to build the product first, out of pocket.
 
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#505 ·
My how you tend to forget that while I've been working out of my house and garage for the last 9 months I owned an actual shop for over a year. The days of me working out of my house are also over as I've partnered with DTM Motorsport and am now working out of their facility as a full partner. I was smart enough to realize that the shop I had was not taking me to what my eventual goal was so I relinquished my responsibilities there and set about a new path. Working from home was only an interim step until I got to the next level. I have now proceeded on to the next level and will continue to move on up.

The only reason you are the only one that is being attacked here is because you are the only one who is ignorant enough to post. If Jimmy posted on this site and tried to defend GCT's atrocious actions he would also get my brash attitude and comments. I realize you aren't the only one responsible but you are the one trying to make it look like you are the victim here which is absolutely not the case.
 
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PharmEcis said:
My how you tend to forget that while I've been working out of my house and garage for the last 9 months I owned an actual shop for over a year. The days of me working out of my house are also over as I've partnered with DTM Motorsport and am now working out of their facility as a full partner. I was smart enough to realize that the shop I had was not taking me to what my eventual goal was so I relinquished my responsibilities there and set about a new path. Working from home was only an interim step until I got to the next level. I have now proceeded on to the next level and will continue to move on up.

The only reason you are the only one that is being attacked here is because you are the only one who is ignorant enough to post. If Jimmy posted on this site and tried to defend GCT's atrocious actions he would also get my brash attitude and comments. I realize you aren't the only one responsible but you are the one trying to make it look like you are the victim here which is absolutely not the case.
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I'm really not trying to make it look like I'm the victim. I didnt even post anything about any of this situation until Russ posted what he did a few days ago.

Everything I've said is based on actual facts. I've said several times that I have definetly made my share of the mistakes here. I've not tried to push it off on anyone else but I have tried to defend myself against what I feel is an inaccurate portrayal of what's really happened.

I don't know why I'm the only one posting on here. I guess it's because I'm the only one who's being attacked and I must be the only one who cares enough about it to come on here and take the abuse while I try to set things straight.
 
#507 ·
Tearstone said:
Great! I still have one customer who has paid for their kit, in turn which we have paid you for over 9 months ago and they still have not received it. Based on your comment you should be able to drop ship that kit to them today, correct?
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I did not say I had any kit's sitting here right now. I said if you were selling them than I would be able to supply at least two a week and I would build them with no money up front just payment when I deliver them to you.

I talked with you about your customer that's waiting on the pro kit. I told you I didnt have any of that kit and that I'm not the one that ever told you I did. You and I even talked about another manifold that I had that would work out for him. This conversation took place just two hours before you sent me a text message calling me a piece of crap for trying to buy back kit piping. Kit piping that I was trying to get back to give to you!!

I was very up front about my feelings on the fact that the parts owed to you are Gulf Coast Turbo's responsibility, not mine personally. I told you I would do my best to work it out but I had just enough money to get the first couple of kit's rolling and once they were turning over we could work out a payment arrangement. I never said I was capable of sending out any of GCT's delinquent orders immediatly.

I was trying to be up front and honest about what I thought I could realistically do. I wasnt trying to "dupe" you or mislead you or anything else.
 
#509 ·
Ive spoke to Donny once and had no trust with him. Greg is the most trustworthy man I know here. When Im done building my kit, I will drive out and have him install it. He wasted 1 hour of his time he could never get back, to talk to me about his car. EREP for greg
 
#510 ·
GCTurbo said:
I don't know why I'm the only one posting on here. I guess it's because I'm the only one who's being attacked and I must be the only one who cares enough about it to come on here and take the abuse while I try to set things straight.
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The way to get things straight is to give people the piping/kits/etc that were purchased from you ASAP.
 
#512 ·
04gsNA said:
Ive spoke to Donny once and had no trust with him. Greg is the most trustworthy man I know here. When Im done building my kit, I will drive out and have him install it. He wasted 1 hour of his time he could never get back, to talk to me about his car. EREP for greg
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Thanks I guess? I think I know who this was and a few months ago you didn't like me because I called you out on the forums too! heh

Oh well, such is the life of an Internet forum. ;)
 
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#513 ·
01SpyderGT said:
:agreed:


It wouldn't be right to make and sell kits when people that have ALREADY paid, haven't received them.
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I understand what your saying but the fact is that those parts are owed by Gulf Coast Turbo, not me. I know it's easy to group the two together, and maybe they should be grouped together, but that doesnt change the situation. I do not personally have the kit's, the parts, or the money.

Russ is owed money. Yes, his customers are owed parts, which, to me, still means that Russ is owed money. The only way I can take care of Russ is if I am able to sell some kit's. There's no hidden agenda here, that's just the way it is.

If I can sell some kit's that turn a profit I will use part of that profit to start setting things straight with Russ. I can't use all of it because I still have to live myself, but I will make a solid effort to get it taken care of at a reasonable pace.

The little bit of money that I have will not even put a tiny bite into what's owed. If I gave it to Russ now than I would be broke and I would still be an asshole for not taking care of the balance. That is unacceptable to me for a couple different reasons. There's only one way for me to have any chance at fixing this and that's what I'm going to stick with.
 
#514 ·
GCTurbo said:
If I can sell some kit's that turn a profit I will use part of that profit to start setting things straight with Russ. I can't use all of it because I still have to live myself, but I will make a solid effort to get it taken care of at a reasonable pace.

The little bit of money that I have will not even put a tiny bite into what's owed. If I gave it to Russ now than I would be broke and I would still be an asshole for not taking care of the balance. That is unacceptable to me for a couple different reasons. There's only one way for me to have any chance at fixing this and that's what I'm going to stick with.
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Sorry.. but thats piss poor business practice. You're basically saying that you can't resolve your debts because it would put you in the hole. So, instead of you going in the hole you would rather keep someone else in it. What wonderful business practice.

I have an idea.. how about you sell your car to resolve your debts and start walking to work.
 
#515 ·
Or get a bicycle, since Russ says you packed on the pounds.

You say you are investing money with your mother in buying and selling cars. Why dont you take the profit from that and give it to Russ to pay your debt? You're not making any effort other than telling him to sell another product of yours, and consider the profit from that as payments to your debt. Thats not how it works Donny. What Russ profits from selling something is his payoff for running a business. He already worked for the money you owe him. You need to pay him from YOUR profits.
 
#516 ·
HIJACKER said:
Sorry.. but thats piss poor business practice. You're basically saying that you can't resolve your debts because it would put you in the hole. So, instead of you going in the hole you would rather keep someone else in it. What wonderful business practice.

I have an idea.. how about you sell your car to resolve your debts and start walking to work.
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It would be "piss poor business practice" if there was still a business. There is not, there is only me trying to get these guys repaid the only way I can. I am already in the hole.

Like I said, if I gave Russ the last little bit of money I had instead of trying to get these kit's going, than there would be no more money for me to do anything for anyone that's still owed and there wouldnt even be a small dent out of Russ amount. That is not an acceptable solution.

As for selling my car, I already told you I have a Galant that's worth about as much as is owed on it and my wife drives a Trooper that I paid $700 for. I'm not living a lavish life here while everyone else is out.
 
#517 ·
I think they are referring to a certain import you have been seeing driving around.
 
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#518 ·
Rulez said:
Or get a bicycle, since Russ says you packed on the pounds.

You say you are investing money with your mother in buying and selling cars. Why dont you take the profit from that and give it to Russ to pay your debt? You're not making any effort other than telling him to sell another product of yours, and consider the profit from that as payments to your debt. Thats not how it works Donny. What Russ profits from selling something is his payoff for running a business. He already worked for the money you owe him. You need to pay him from YOUR profits.
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Listen Dick, I weighed 287 pounds three years ago and I weigh 295 now. Hardly "packing on the pounds". It takes a real professional to come on here and make weight cracks.:noway:

I never said I was "investing" anything. I don't have anything to invest. I've made a small amount of money from selling some cars with my mother, but it hasnt been on a regular basis and it is not even enough to cover my personal bills which come first to me and would come first to anyone else out there also.

I NEVER asked Russ to consider his profit as repayment of GCT's debt. I told him I would try to price the kit's low so he could make good money off of them so he has additional funds coming in and then I would get on a payment plan for what GCT owes. That scenario IS paying him from my PERSONAL profits. I probably should have just suggested a higher price and then paid him more from each kit. The result would be the same, just worded differently.
 
#519 ·
PharmEcis said:
I think they are referring to a certain import you have been seeing driving around.
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If someone saw you driving around in Rob's car would that make it yours to sell? I know that's not an exact comparison but it basically makes the point.

I'm trying to do what I can. I'm not rich. I have a little bit of money to try to get things set straight and that's it. If I wasnt trying to do what's right than why havent I just dropped off the boards and used this kit money to buy parts for these other "toys" I supposedly have?

Greg, I'm just trying to fix this the only way I can. There's nothing else I can do about it. I guess if nobody wants to work with me than I'll give up but I'm not to that point yet and I don't plan on getting to that point. (BTW, thanks for answering my valve train question, that stuff looks really nice.)
 
#520 ·
I already told you on the phone I'm not going to sell anything for you until our past orders are caught up. If you can't fulfill that obligation to finish this V6 kit, and the 4cyl pro kit, than we are at an impasse, period. You can rest assured I will get the money that is owed to my company out of this ordeal, no reason to continue to keep bringing it up.

You have also failed to address my earlier post: http://www.club3g.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2063642&postcount=508
 
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