why would you spend 1300 on a turbo when a 16g costs under 300

 

A better question is why you would spend $1300 on a POS when a Garrett Dual BB turbo can be found for $1100 and have far superior all-around build quality, especially the CHRAs.

 

One of the 7 deadly performance sins is overkill... keep that in mind

 

an evo3 16g is perfect,Its a sin to go any other route on a 4 banger

 

Turbonetics does not even have a true ball bearing cartridge. One side is a thrust bearing and the other side is a ball bearing, hardly worth the money. But if you need one, we can get you a price on any turbo you need. rsanderlin@tearstone.com

 

I do agree that the fact that he is running such a low boost # is stupid for the turbo he's looking for. Don't forget though, 8psi out of a 16g and 8psi out of a gt series ball bearing are two completely different things. It's all about cfm. 8psi on the turbo he's looking at will push him over 300whp, which he won't see anyways because of his motor. He could drop the same psi on a smaller turbo like the 16g and get just as good a spool time.

 

Alas, I'm sure we'll never hear about it after these few posts anyways...

 

:lol: Why not?

 

Honestly, since we've all been here. How many members have come and gone with these rediculous builds they claim to have. Some even provide a few pictures of their "progress". Then a few months later you see a post in the FS section "Turbonetics turbo, CHEAP!!". Either that or they slowly die out. Some of the more complete builds you see put together, but you never hear about any performance gains or tuning because the idiots went with an SAFC and some other pos fuel device.

 

i've seen this kit personally and its been running well for hte last 3 years. this is hardly one those 'projects' you speak of. dont be so quick to judge people.

 

Then after all that they'll go around preaching "oh fuck 3g's, they're slow. I'm buying a mustang, they're way faster" :jerkit:

 

:lol: I love those guys. They rawk!I think this dude has teh AAI kit though.....

 

Eh, I would just open the exhaust up a little bit for like 200 bucks instead of dropping 1200 for a new turbo that still chokes up because it can't breath. Oh well


Hey Awalp, I'll take your old t3/t4 off your hands

 

its mine once he blows up interest

 

:yawn: I DO want a ball bearing with my new setup anyways. I want that fucking sound :agreed:

Oh yeahr, and that little bit of power they put out

 

well, I've run a turbonetics T3/T40E for three years and it puts higher numbers down per psi than most other turbo setups I've seen on this forum. I like the turbo, my piping is setup for it, why would I go a different route when I know it works and I can have a faster better turbo? (paid for with insurance money!)

 

well.. the old still working perfectly T3/T40E that puts down 284hp and 294tq at 8.5psi, will be up for sale here in a couple weeks when I get my new turbo :woot:

 

Excellent, well since you two are such good boost buddies, why not show him why swapping his turbo wouldn't be as efficient as opening up his piping, turning up the boost, and resorting to a better tune instead of dropping 1200 on a turbo. A bigger dp and a flash would be a hell of a lot more cost efficient and he could see well over what he's making right now if he pushed that turbo harder.

 

The same piping the xull made almost 400whp on?


I agree with your other point though. All that's holding him back is a good fuel system and a spot on tune. That'll be good enough for anything on the stock engine.

 

Well the IC piping is fine, the dp is only 2.5. I bet with a 3" he'll see an instant gain. That and the tune and he's good till his head maxes out.

 

If its the AAI like I had, its actually just shy of 2.25". ::ghey3:

sheesh, what's with all the turbonetics hatin... my turbo still kicks ass after 3 years, don't saying shit you can't back up about a companies products. Just because some people buy $200 junkyard turbos... doesn't mean a turbo company can't make better turbos.

enough with the baseless comments sheesh...

Its not hatin. Like I mentioned earlier, that turbo is decent for a specific range. Beyond that, it fails to deliver. At least, it failed to deliver up to my expectations.

And there is an undeniable truth about their CHRAs. They are junk. My BB literally fell apart after only 25k miles. But I didnt complain too much, Turbonetics replaced it free of charge evne though it was nearly a year past the warranty end-date.

and how is a 3in downpipe going to do anything on a turbo that doesn't even have a 3in outlet?, If I recall correctly, evos can make 500hp with their stock 2.25in exhaust.

Im not going to bet an appendage on it, but, I dont think they dont make that kind of power on stock exhaust/dp. Thats one of the first things evo **** upgrade becuase its way too small.

I have to agree with Playa, you would benefit more from a bigger downpipe, and exhaust, more boost and tuning...

 

Drop a fricken AEM EMS in that bad boy or do a motor build so you can push harder to.....just some options. Def open the dp to a full 3 inches though

 

Flash is way more cost efficient than the ems right now. I did the evo swap/reluctor swap and have an LC-1 tatrix setup. Once my motor comes out of the shop Flash will get it rolling. With the way the 3g is looking it's either the Flash or the EMS when it comes to boosting.

 

scrw turbonetics theyt suck at everything they make. there turbos suck and so do their wastgates. Get a precision/ garret

 

16g is a tiny turbo .. comes stock on a 2.0L turbo motor. it's a good budget turbo.


2.4L turbo's definately could benefit from something larger such as a gt3076r or t3/t4 50 trim.

 

+1 it was a good starter turbo for me. Made 300whp. Now its time to go bigger though. SC61 it is for me however thats going to be with a built motor to get the most I can out of it. I think on a stock motor/head a 50 trim would be a decent sized turbo.

 

sheesh, what's with all the turbonetics hatin... my turbo still kicks ass after 3 years, don't saying shit you can't back up about a companies products. Just because some people buy $200 junkyard turbos... doesn't mean a turbo company can't make better turbos.

enough with the baseless comments sheesh...

 

and how is a 3in downpipe going to do anything on a turbo that doesn't even have a 3in outlet?, If I recall correctly, evos can make 500hp with their stock 2.25in exhaust.

 

my downpipe is for sure 2.5in, and it bolts to a 2.75in Invidia exhaust, with a 2.25in flang that I have to get remade to 2.5in.

 

What dp do you have?

 

I think you guys have the same one... the old AAI dp. I always saw it advertised as 2.5" but I know Ben has had it in and out many times and I beleive him if he says its only a "cunt hair" over 2.25. Maybe it some metric measurement.

 

Yep, At the turbo it is a cunt hair UNDER 2.25", after teh flex pipe it does open up to 2.5" though.

 

"2.4 Wonder" on www.socal3g.com works for Turbonetics. You may want to drop him a line.

 

What was the size of the IC piping of the AAI kits. That shit was tight in there and I think it was only 2.5 right? I hope I can jam 3" in here

 

I havnt measured it, but im pretty sure its 2.25" as well.

 

Oh fuck :lol: