Holy shit about time BMW

 

What's 302hp anymore, though?

 

:scratch: Umm ... http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59006

 

:scratch: Umm ... http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59006

That thread got off tangent. :fawk:

 

E90 M3 Vert

E90 M3 Coupe

E90 M3 Vert with retractable hardtop
http://www.mph-online.com/web/spyphotos/0025

 

That thread got off tangent. :fawk:

Oh ... I didn't read the whole thread. Your first post made me think ... "I read this somewhere before" :lol:

 

Here's another Coupe Pic, doesn't not sure if it's a ///M but damn those bling wheels.

 

Probably to keep up with the IS350 and the rumors that the will CTS get a bump to 300-ish hp with a 3.8L v6.

 

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17729

 

Probably to keep up with the IS350 and the rumors that the will CTS get a bump to 300-ish hp with a 3.8L v6.

:agreed:Although it may come down to more "bang for the buck" to some people...

 

base price of $42K? :uh: I guess all the wannabe's will have to lease the 328 (or whatever it will be called) to impress their friends now.

 

First Real World Test of 335i

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/

By Jason Cammisa


The 2007 BMW 335i will be in showrooms next month, and is the first application of BMW’s new twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-six. This is a big deal because BMW has had only two short affairs with turbocharged gasoline production cars--the 2002 Turbo in the mid-70s, and the E23 745i in the early 80s--and neither was sold in the U.S. As the saying goes, third time’s the charm.

BMW fit this new engine with two small-displacement turbochargers--instead of one larger unit--in an effort to reduce lag. And for the most part, it worked. Behind the wheel, you’re vaguely aware that this engine doesn’t have quite as crisp a throttle response as its normally-aspirated siblings do. But you don’t care--you’re too busy trying to hold on for dear life.



This is one hell of a motor, pulling smoothly and strongly from idle all the way to its 7000-rpm fuel cutoff. There’s no boost gauge, and since you barely hear the turbos spooling, it’s easy to forget they’re even there. Once you’ve adjusted to the slight lag in power delivery following big, sudden throttle openings, all you notice is the sound of that silky in-line six.

BMW says that this engine makes 300 horsepower and 300 lb-ft of torque. We were so impressed with its power that we couldn’t help wonder if that was a conservative rating. Wasting no time, I swiped the keys and drove to a local dyno shop to find out.



We used a DynoJet chassis dyno, which measures an engine’s power output at a vehicle’s rear wheels. Because of frictional driveline losses, this number is always lower--generally by fifteen to twenty percent--than the quoted power output from the manufacturer, which is measured at the engine itself.

Here’s what we found:

The non-turbocharged 330i, rated by BMW at 255 hp and 220 lb-ft of torque, puts about 200 hp and 180 lb-ft to the rear wheels. That’s roughly a twenty-percent loss. Since they have similar drivelines, you’d expect the 335i to put down 235 hp and 250 lb-ft.



But it didn’t. It put down a whole lot more: 275 hp and 300 lb-ft. A few quick taps on our trusty calculator shows that this engine is likely putting out closer to 350 hp and 360 lb-ft of torque.

Technical editor Don Sherman’s ears perked up at all this number crunching. With all that power, he wondered, is the 335i faster than the outgoing 333-hp E46 M3? We waved goodbye to the shiny new coupe’s rear tires, and sent him to find out.

Don coaxed the 335i to 60 mph in 5.1 seconds--only 0.3 seconds slower than the M3. The 335i covered the quarter-mile in 13.6 seconds @ 104 mph--again, only 0.2 seconds and 1 mph behind the M3.



So in an all-out drag race, the 335i comes close, but can’t quite match the M3’s blistering acceleration. Those numbers, though, only tell half the story. Have a look at the top-gear acceleration figures. In sixth gear, the M3 needs 14.7 seconds to get from 30 to 70 mph – but the 335i does it in only 12.5.

That, my friends, is the beauty of this engine. At full bore, it’s as fast as an M3. But at moderate engine speeds, it’s even faster. What a great way to keep us all interested until the next M3 comes along.

 

The new M3 had better be a monster.

 

Wow, that sounds like a hell of a car :yesway:

I agree, Sam!

 

The new M3 had better be a monster.

well, we know its atleast going to look like one.

 

The new M3 had better be a monster.

isn't it supposed to have the 400hp V8 from the last version of the M5?


btw, I see a ton of new M5's down here now. and I've seen one M6. I didn't know they were actually out yet. it was on I95 and about 5 or 6 cars ahead of me so it could have been someone with a 650I that put the badges on I guess.

 

isn't it supposed to have the 400hp V8 from the last version of the M5?


btw, I see a ton of new M5's down here now. and I've seen one M6. I didn't know they were actually out yet. it was on I95 and about 5 or 6 cars ahead of me so it could have been someone with a 650I that put the badges on I guess.

nope, they're out, you probably saw one. There is a BMW/MB/Lexus/Infiniti/Cadillac/Porsche/Lotus dealer practically next door to my townhouse, they have two: a maroon one and a baby-shit-light-brown one. I don't like them, but they are out.

 

well, we know its atleast going to look like one.

:agreed: I really prefer the E46 body style.

 

Wow, that sounds like a hell of a car :yesway:

Whoopse? BMW, the ultimate driving machine...that overheats at the track.

Source

Got to tear up the new BMW 335i twin turbos yesterday at Autobahn. We had a group out there.

that PDI instructed and I did the lead/follows session with my group.

First, the good:

The car displays virtually no turbo lag. The acceleration feels on par with Janica's S4, it's extremely balanced on the track (I could not induce oversteer pushing them to about 8/10ths) and the stock brakes showed no fade whatsoever after a pretty hard 30 minute session. I must say, I was quite impressed. I was hitting 115 on the front straight of the north track. On top of all this, they have run flats on the car! Yes, run flats. With race rubber this car would rock! Very nice car. The backseat room is quite a bit larger than the previous model and of course the interior amenities are excellent.

Now, the bad news:

Each and every car overheated and shut down. Hmmmm, how's that? Yup! The oil temperature on every car shot to 300 degrees and the cars shut down. We learned that early on and instructed every driver to watch it closely. Driving amounted to about 5 hot laps, 2 parade laps, and so on. Never saw anything like it yet. Talk about a fatal flaw on these vehicles. Can't wait to see this happen to the general public and see how BMW responds. I guarantee you we were not pushing these so hard that no one will ever experience what we did. In fact, one of the ABCC members took a car home with him and on his ride in to the track, aggressively I might add, overheated it and shut down on him.

Every car has an achille's heal. I guess this is it.

 

Whoa, that's a big ass flaw right there. Over heating oil at the 300F degree mark. That's insane, that oil must be boiling by then. I can't see why BMW can't just introduce a large oil cooler that's has a fan behind that activates when the oil reaches a centain threshold.

Oil introduce turbos that will run cooler and not introduce so much heat. Have some that have coolant lines run in them as well as oil lines. That should lower the heat temps.

 

What's scary is that the car shuts down while the oil is at over 300 degrees. So you have super hot oil just sitting there, not being circulated through the system to be cooled.

 

Get your sludge on, in every passage of the block.

 

Damn, what a let-down. I seriously hope BMW intends to fix that, otherwise they're obviously going to have a lot of pissed off owners.

 

Shiv (Vishnu) has done a few things to his (piggy back with tuning and cat-back) and has nearly 400hp @ the crank now. Not bad

 

Heh, wonder why they didn't use the Motorsport oil coolers and largeass intercoolers, ///M makes them for the E46, wonder why it wasn't used for the new E90's