I keep burning up the coild packs on my car. It happend the first time a few months ago, I replaced them, then Friday night it happened again... Since then I've gone through three different ones. Anyone have any idea as to what could be causing this to happen and what will fix the problem?

I sure do. I burnt up 3 myself. What kind of correction are you running I noticed that the only time my coil packs burnt were when the emanage map stayed on a huge correction on the map while just cruising. Have you done any logging to see what the corrections are doing. My theory is they overheat due to the emanage changing the timing as well as airflow signal. The only other thing to check is your firmware to make sure its the latest.

 

Always keep a spare coil pack or two in the trunk now :squint:

 

I'm not doing any logging.... I guess that should be something I need to look into. I'm not sure about the correction and such, that was something done at the shop... And the extra packs I carried are the ones that burnt up... I'm probably going to disconnect the ignition wires from the emanage. All I need the car to do is to make it up to the shop so they can check it out... Thanks

 

im going to bypass th ignition part of the emanage... lemm know if these are the wires

 

A member named BluBlur from San Antonio was having the same problem with his RS-T. From what I remember he said it was caused by the emanage as well. I will try to find the link for you.

 

Here it is.

http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37544&highlight=Coil+packs

Hope it helps some.

 

okay, there are four (4) wires altogether. two blue, and two orange.... I am assumiong that if i take them out of the little plastic connecter, connect both of the same color together, i will have bypassed the ignition part of the emanage

 

sorry the pics are kinda shitty

 

alright, I got the wires bypasse, the car started up and idled fine. I just hope that the problem is the emanage, and whatever is wrong can be corrected at the shop tomorrow...

 

On some bypassing works some it doesn't. Mine still burntr coils after bypassing.

 

shit. I'll hope for the best.... if they can get me up to the shop tomorrow, thats all I'll need..... Thanks guys

 

Buy the aem ems. Problem solved :twothumb:

By the way i have 2 coil packs for sale. check my sig

I had my emanage hooked up for about a year and had no burnt coils. I guess some do and some dont

 

Buy the aem ems. Problem solved :twothumb:

By the way i have 2 coil packs for sale. check my sig

I had my emanage hooked up for about a year and had no burnt coils. I guess some do and some dont

Well now it looks like were going to have reflashes availible so no need for an aem the stock ecu is programmable.But I'll leave that to another thread.

 

and I have an auto.... to my knowledge, the ems isnt compatible with the auto....

 

and balla- there are a few places here locally that have coils (junkyards).. depending on what we find out at the shop and what i can get tomorrow, I'll probably pick up those coil packs from you...

 

and balla- there are a few places here locally that have coils (junkyards).. depending on what we find out at the shop and what i can get tomorrow, I'll probably pick up those coil packs from you...

I already sent you a message... Yes you are right. they dont have one for the auto YET...
give it time...


As for the bypass. If you are not running any timing through the emanage you are fine... you will not blow coil packs. like DNS said have the shop do some logging, and make sure the ignition corrections are not rediculous at idle or at cruising times...

However you will probably burn up a coil if your ignition is in the on position but the car off. I dont have an answer for that other than the emanage doesnt work the way it should...

Now according to some of our FI members on here the emanage does not control timing like it should... I believe them because they have blown shit up at high boost with the emanage due to poor timing correction... I advise you be very cautious... EMS is the " answer to the question "

 

Thanks man. If we can get the emanage corrected, and leave it until we know more about this ecu reflash, thats what I'm going to do.

 

Sounds like the E-Mange is applying too much dwell to the coils trying to manage and control ignition timing, and frying the internal ignitor transistor inside the coil. With the stock ECU now can be programmed, you can change your timing values in memory any way you like, and still have the same factory dwell time...thus not burning the ignitor transistor. Or you can go with a EMS, and you will still have to watch out for dwell time adjustments are correctly done. Should be between 1.8ms to 3.0ms depending on battery voltage.

 

even though i wasnt boosting the car? friday night iwas drinving the car really hard, but after it melted, I took it easy. same thing Sat. afternoon. I was cruising at 80 on I75, and it quit on me. three of the coils that have burned have been while I was not boosting...

the emanage is only supposed to be active when I am under boost, right?

 

even though i wasnt boosting the car? friday night iwas drinving the car really hard, but after it melted, I took it easy. same thing Sat. afternoon. I was cruising at 80 on I75, and it quit on me. three of the coils that have burned have been while I was not boosting...

the emanage is only supposed to be active when I am under boost, right?

If there is a software/hardware glitch in the E-Manage, maybe yes. Since the E-Manage is between your ECU and your ignition coils.


Jason

 

okay... because thats what i didnt get, why the emanage would be the cause of it if its not active.... thanks for you input, i really appreciate it.. im gonna pm you..... thanks

 

standalone will never compare to a flash ecu.

 

but then again, you were comparing a standalone vs an emanage, so that coming out of you is totally understandable. sorry i said anything.

 

naw its cool man. I'm more so looking at something that will get me by until this reflash becomes availible...... Basically, at this point, I would rather have a car that runs, than one that keeps messing up.. I just need to get to the shop. I realize that this is just minor bump in the road, and can be fixed.

But ya'll are pretty sure that with the ignition wires bypassed, my chacnes of burning up a coil are pretty slim?

 

I already sent you a message... Yes you are right. they dont have one for the auto YET...
give it time...


As for the bypass. If you are not running any timing through the emanage you are fine... you will not blow coil packs. like DNS said have the shop do some logging, and make sure the ignition corrections are not rediculous at idle or at cruising times...

However you will probably burn up a coil if your ignition is in the on position but the car off. I dont have an answer for that other than the emanage doesnt work the way it should...

Now according to some of our FI members on here the emanage does not control timing like it should... I believe them because they have blown shit up at high boost with the emanage due to poor timing correction... I advise you be very cautious... EMS is the " answer to the question "

Basically there are several things that could burn the coils up. Originally it was thought the emanage wasn't returning the voltage to 0 with the ignition on and was frying the coil packs. My car fried coil packs after I bypassed the emanage until I reconnected the rear o2 sensor ground. I think there are several conditions that cause this but the main one is overheating the coil packs.