[ErionJay]

I have a sporty and the only real thing I get out of it now is harmless fun. I can jerk my gears around without the danger of a manual, except if someone over revs. I wish I would have gotten a 5-speed now that I am gettin into performance. At the time trans wasn't an issue and I just liked the looks of the sporty over the regular auto. I am actually slower than an AT :bash: but oh well.

 

[christopher and]

Hey bitter, I can shit damn well. I just got tired of drive car with a manual transmission, special in the state of Los Angeles, CA. where traffic like shit all day long that why I get poor gas mileage now, stop and go all the time. Plus my girlfriend can’t drive a manual transmission.

 

[littleman54321]

the transmissions computer can shift it better then you can. if you could shift as good as the computer u would have gotten the 5 spd

completely not true. the computer in straight "auto" mode doesnt shift at redline...it shifts at like 5800 or so. w/ sporty i can put it up too 6200. but even then, the computer is still doing the shifting. im just telling it when to do it. also, with auto, it doesnt downshift when i want it to. w/ sporty i can (to a certain limit, but either way its still quicker than flooring it and waiting the 2 seconds for the computer to shift). "if you could shift as good as the computer u would have gotten the 5 spd" thats also a really bad overgeneralization. i think the dude states later that he got it b/c he didnt want to deal w/ traffic. i got a sporty b/c i tore my knee up and couldnt use my left leg well enough to operate a clutch. now my leg is better, but it was either have no car, or get an auto. and at the time, i didnt know how long it would take my knee to heel (tore my acl and some other stuff in it real bad).

 

[mrjason]

The reason your auto shifts itself at 5800rpm is because thats all your power, after that your hp and torque fall off the chart. This is why you can usually run better in auto mode than shittronic mode, when you are waisting time and gas running it to 6200.

 

[Voodoo]

The reason your auto shifts itself at 5800rpm is because thats all your power, after that your hp and torque fall off the chart. This is why you can usually run better in auto mode than shittronic mode, when you are waisting time and gas running it to 6200.

Exactly what I meant. The computer knows the torque curve better than you probably do. It knows when to shift to get the best speeds versus having you shift it. I'm pretty sure you could get close to the RPM's where the computer will shift for you in each gear, but if you're racing, just leave it in drive. I didn't mean it was faster when trying to downshift, I meant faster in a drag race.

 

[Bitter]

Hey bitter, I can shit damn well.

i bet you can :fawk:

 

[Bitter]

and i duno about you but my straight auto in teh geo can down shift just fine. infact i down shifted yesterday several times. its called pulling it from D to 2 or L/1.
only thing is teh geo will over rev if i down shift from too high, pulled it into 2nd gear from 70mph and that probably wasnt good for the engine :ugh: oh well, nothing broke yet so im not too worried

 

[Voodoo]

and i duno about you but my straight auto in teh geo can down shift just fine. infact i down shifted yesterday several times. its called pulling it from D to 2 or L/1.
only thing is teh geo will over rev if i down shift from too high, pulled it into 2nd gear from 70mph and that probably wasnt good for the engine :ugh: oh well, nothing broke yet so im not too worried

I think he meant the auto tranny in drive is slow to downshift when you need acceleration. He's right, with the Sporty you can downshift faster in the manumatic mode versus Drive.

I orginally posted that Drive was faster than Manumatic in a drag race because of the computer knowing the torque curve better. I think it will be faster no matter what unless you have impreccable timing with your upshifting. But for faster downshifting the manumatic will obviously be better.

 

[littleman54321]

I think he meant the auto tranny in drive is slow to downshift when you need acceleration. He's right, with the Sporty you can downshift faster in the manumatic mode versus Drive.

I orginally posted that Drive was faster than Manumatic in a drag race because of the computer knowing the torque curve better. I think it will be faster no matter what unless you have impreccable timing with your upshifting. But for faster downshifting the manumatic will obviously be better.

if you're going in a straight line, then yeah, drive will probably be better. ive never done an official test with shifting at redline vs letting the computer do it, so i really cant say one way or the other. and yes, i have impeccable timing

and bitter, you may be able to downshift fine in your auto in the geo from D to 2....but guess what, in an eclipse sporty, there is no 2. its just D. and i still say the sporty will shift it faster than your geo going from d-2. those functions are mainly in there for upshifting purposes, like if your car is on a hill or something. in the family's intrigue if i go from d-2, it just bitches at me and shifts. its really slow, quicker if i just floor it and let it shift. but thats still slower than me throwing it in sportronic and bumping it down in the eclipse.

 

[christopher and]

in the sporty mode is gears 4 the overdrive?

 

[Bitter]

yes, when it comes to upshifting i just let the tranny do it, but theres a few rare instances where i will pop it from d to 2 and it does better then if i had just floored it. like around 40 mph if i pop it into 1 and floor it then it finishes 1st and goes to 2nd, where as if i just floored it at 40 it bogs into 2nd. does it make a real difference, doubtful. does it make me feel like im making a difference, yes, and isnt that what really matters?

 

[Bitter]

damnit, the wireless mouse=teh sucks. it must need charging, clicked like 2x on accident :twitch:

 

[christopher and]

why is it when i use sporty mode and i go pass 6,000 rpm the car seem lag? what i'm trying to see is, if i go pass redline and shift will i get a boost but when i go pass redline the car will lag instead of give more power. it seem like i have to shift before i get to 6,000 rpm or the car will feel like it's lose power.

 

[Bitter]

why is it when i use sporty mode and i go pass 6,000 rpm the car seem lag? what i'm trying to see is, if i go pass redline and shift will i get a boost but when i go pass redline the car will lag instead of give more power. it seem like i have to shift before i get to 6,000 rpm or the car will feel like it's lose power.

thats called being out of the power band. above a certain rpm the engine is just all sound and fury signifying nothing. just waisting gas


and little man, there is at times a lag from when i pull it from D to 2 or to 1. mainly when things are cold or its a really hot day, but when the weather is about 60ish and the engine is warmed up, its pretty quick and smooth, especially since the redline ATF

 

[christopher and]

what do you mean when you say redline ATF?

 

[Bitter]

what do you mean when you say redline ATF?

its a brand of fully synthetic automatic transmission fluid. its supposed to work better then regular fluids. to me it feels like i get a lil more power to the ground and it definately shifts alot smoother



please for the love of god, if u have any work done to you're car take it to a shop and let them do it

 

[christopher and]

does my car come with that type of fluid? If not where can I purchase some?
I work at a call center and I get at of calls. so that why I have a lot typos in my topic.

 

[Bitter]

does why come with that type of fluid or do i need to go out and buy some of it?

1st. thats some horrible grammar and a bad typo
2nd. at $6-$9 dollars a quart, no it doesnt come already in your car, they use what ever is cheap, probably coastal ATF. royal purple ATF may also be just as good if not better then Redline, but i lack hands on experince with it

 

[RedGS]

I have some time slips here from a couple runs that I did in sporty and auto mode on my 2000 fed gs with cai, ripp header and high flow cat, greddy catback, toyo t1-s tires on 17x7.5 rims, kyb agx and progress spring, etc. What I really need is an S-AFC and dyno tuning.

Auto: 1320" took 17.72 seconds@78.32mph. 1/8 mile took 11.39@62.44
Sporty: 17.59 seconds@78.41mph. 1/8 mile took 11.2@62.76

Mods to the car should change the power curve, so a person who was aware of the changes in the power curve should be able to make better shifting decisions than the computer... but a person will also make more mistakes.

 

[christopher and]

So the eclipse max rpm is 6,000 but to get your max hp is 5,500 rpms. So would it be better to shift at 5,500 instead of try to push it to 6,000 in the sporty mode? Also wondering how does this apply with getting torque power?