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Toyota to reveal GRMN Hybrid concept at Nürburgring 24

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#1 ·
Autoblog said:
Toyota is set to pull the sheets back on a new convertible sports hybrid at this year's Nurburgring 24-Hour endurance race. Co-developed by Gazoo Racing, the GRMN Hybrid Concept II is a slightly updated version of the concept that Toyota displayed at the 2010 Tokyo Auto Salon.

With its gasoline engine mounted mid-ship and a hybrid all-wheel-drive system, the GRMN should deliver drivers plenty of grip and excellent balance as well. Total combined output sits at 295 horsepower, with 245 ponies coming from the gasoline V6 and another 50 arriving via an electric motor. That motor supplies power to the two front wheels only.

The automaker says the machine weighs in at less than 3,300 lbs, though there's no indication as to what sort of fuel economy to expect from the drop-head. So, when can you buy one? We wouldn't hold our breath. With its wild looks and pricey all-wheel-drive system, it'll be a cold day in Toyota City before the GRMN lands on dealer lots.

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#5 ·
butt fucking ugly.



wow is that all? golly!
No shit right? :lol: That's ~500lbs MORE than the mid-size 4 door sedan I'm driving and ~800lbs more than the 'sporty' car I have which isn't exactly a featherweight.
 
#11 ·
not all 4 wheels are powered all the time, so its not what I would consider real AWD, its more like 2WD with some assist on demand since the batteries cannot run the electric motors constantly, unless they're doing a volt style system to keep the front wheels constantly fed juice but somehow I doubt that. I'm going to imagine that the 50hp batteries are used in conjunction with the traction control system to aid launches (not that a 3,300lb 200whp car should have much traction issues) and help in corners and possibly be used in low speed maneuvering to save fuel. But what the hell, its a damned 'sports car', who buys one to save gas?
 
#13 ·
Yep, and you can really feel it in how it handles too. I think of AWD I think of a full time system, not a traction aid under adverse handling conditions.
 
#15 ·
I like it. Not a whole lot, but I think it looks ok. I can appreciate its technologies but that's not ever going to make it past concept, and possibly a few test runs around the 'Ring.

You can't have a convertible sports car and expect it to handle as crisply and be lightweight. It's physics.
 
#16 ·
ORLY? Don't remember the Toyota MR-2? Mazda Miata? Both light, convertible, mass produced, and very competent handling cars on andoff the track in stock form. Won't even mention Lotus...
 
#19 ·
Granted, they were competent-handling vehicles. Those models didn't come in regular, non-convertible coupe versions. No basis for comparison. However, based on physics as mentioned, a non-convertible Miata would handle even better than the standard Miata.

But this is beginning to delve into what-ifs. Although I believe my point is still valid. We need to compare apples to apples. Say, the 911 Turbo vs. 911 Turbo Cabriolet.